GNS 530 for $1000?!?!? Am I Missing Something?

[three-eight-hotel]

I just saw this link on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-14-28V-GARMIN-GNS530-GNS-530-NAV-GPS_W0QQitemZ7745050682QQcategoryZ63850QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm not trying to assist in advertising, but I am wondering what the
catch is here. How can a new GNS530 be going for $1000???

Best Regards,
Todd

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "three-eight-hotel" > said:

>I just saw this link on eBay...
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-14-28V-GARMIN-GNS530-GNS-530-NAV-GPS_W0QQitemZ7745050682QQcategoryZ63850QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>I'm not trying to assist in advertising, but I am wondering what the
>catch is here. How can a new GNS530 be going for $1000???

There are a lot of scammers on eBay. If somebody is selling a $10,000
product for $1000, you can be that either it's stolen, or you'll pay and
never recieve the until.


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[three-eight-hotel]

I figured as much... I thought eBay was supposed to be pretty good at
keeping that stuff out of there.

I was just talking with a friend who said he came across something
similar but with stereo receivers. The guy wanted him to keep contact
limited to email and wanted him to Western Union money, rather than
deal with something like PayPal.

I guess they wouldn't be doing it, if there weren't people that would
bite???

Thanks Paul!

Todd

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, (Paul Tomblin) said:
>In a previous article, "three-eight-hotel" > said:
>
>>I just saw this link on eBay...
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-14-28V-GARMIN-GNS530-GNS-530-NAV-GPS_W0QQitemZ7745050682QQcategoryZ63850QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>I'm not trying to assist in advertising, but I am wondering what the
>>catch is here. How can a new GNS530 be going for $1000???
>
>There are a lot of scammers on eBay. If somebody is selling a $10,000
>product for $1000, you can be that either it's stolen, or you'll pay and
>never recieve the until.
&&&&&
unit.

Look at the seller's "other auctions". High end audio gear, high end
computers and digital cameras. All of them ridiculously cheap, and every
single one says "THIS IS THE BEST OFFERT YOU WILL FIND! PLEASE READ :" and
"5 UNITS IN STOCK READY TO BE SHIPPED!". What a coincidence that he has 5
of everything, eh?


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whittling away of the rights of any one minority group is to pave the way for
us all to lose the guarantees of the Constitution" - Harold L. Ickes

[Gig 601XL Builder]

eBay might have caught on if you try to bid you get this...


Transaction Blocked
Sorry, this item may no longer be available.

[three-eight-hotel]

Thought it might be a good idea to report it to eBay, as questionable,
and it looks like one of you beat me to it...

Best Regards,
Todd


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Marketplace Safety Tip

Never pay for your eBay item using instant cash transfer services such
as Western Union or MoneyGram or by recharging someone's prepaid credit
card. These methods are not safe to pay people you do not know
personally.

In addition, these payment methods are not eligible for the eBay buyer
protection programs.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "three-eight-hotel" > said:
>I was just talking with a friend who said he came across something
>similar but with stereo receivers. The guy wanted him to keep contact
>limited to email and wanted him to Western Union money, rather than
>deal with something like PayPal.

Scammers love Western Union so much that both Western Union and eBay tell
you never to pay strangers with it:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-fraud-sending-payments.html
http://www.westernunion.com/info/faqSecurity.asp?country=global


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
You really know you're in trouble when your boss decides upon a suicide
pact... and agrees to go first.
-- Chris King

[Robert M. Gary]

> I thought eBay was supposed to be pretty good at keeping that stuff out of there.

They are, its already gone.

[three-eight-hotel]

Yup! I'm glad they are able to make it a little bit difficult for
scammers to make a buck! It's a bummer that you have to wade through
all of the scammer listings now to find a legitimate one! It's like
pop-ups, only worse... At least with pop-ups you can close the
windows, but with these, you actually have to take the time to read the
listing and make a decision on whether or not it's a scam.

Oh well....

Thanks!
Todd

[three-eight-hotel]

These guys are pretty convincing! I haven't done an eBay transaction
in a while, so these scams (not scams in general) are new to me. I
hope I'm just naively surprised and that others aren't falling this!

I saw another add for a garmin 296, with 23 hours left and no bids on
it. The add looked professional and didn't have the "five at this
price" hoakiness about it. It was allegedly being sold from
California, and had all of the accessories. Another too good to be
true deal??? I sent an inquiry (using my GMail account), to confirm my
suspicions and got the following response.

==================================================
I'm willing to sell it for $500 . At this time I am located in Romania
and I can only take the payment through Western Union money transfer. I
will ship within 24 hours from the payment using the UPS Air Services
so that you may receive the unit in less then 72 hours. For our
protection we will do this deal trough ebay square trade company and
our transaction will be supervised by ebay safe harbour team. You will
be 100% protected against description error and fraud. I never make any
deal outside ebay. I will pay the shipping and handling taxes.
==================================================

Although, clearly a total scam... What's with the "eBay square trade
company", and the "eBay safe harbour team"? I haven't done any
research on this, but I'm assuming it's all out the window once you've
wired money Western Union?

I can certainly see people getting lulled in with a false sense of
security (not most people, but some)...

Bummer!!!

Best Regards,
Todd

[three-eight-hotel]

>> Changing the subject to the original post. Who among us would pay the
>> $1000.00 if we knew that we would receive a 530 as described in the auction?

I'm betting this was a rhetorical question, but in case it wasn't... I
would! ;-)

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "three-eight-hotel" > said:
>Although, clearly a total scam... What's with the "eBay square trade
>company", and the "eBay safe harbour team"? I haven't done any
>research on this, but I'm assuming it's all out the window once you've
>wired money Western Union?


Yes, the guy is lying through his teeth. He's trying to do the deal
outside of eBay's auction system and outside eBay's payment system so that
you have no protection.

Another scam that sellers get hit with - somebody from outside your
country buys your item, but then they contact you to say "So and So in
your country owes me money, so rather than having to make two
international transactions, he'll send you a cashier's check and you
forward me the item plus the difference between your selling price and how
much the cashier's check is for." You go ahead and do that, but a few
days after you sent the item and the money, the bank tells you that the
casheir's check was a forgery and you owe them the money back. But in the
meantime the scammer got your item plus a hunk of your cash.

And you know all all those spams floating around saying "there is a
problem with your ebay account, click here to log in"? Anybody stupid
enough to click on the link provided has now given their eBay account
details to somebody who can and will now use it to buy or sell
fraudulently.

--
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Today while watching people complain about the latest Windows worm outbreak, I
likened Windows users to people stuck in abusive relationships: they get beat
up over and over again, but they won't leave. -- Steve VanDevender

[Robert M. Gary]

> It's a bummer that you have to wade through
> all of the scammer listings now to find a legitimate one!

That's just the cost of having an open market though. We could have
background checks on all eBay sellers and most people wouldn't bother
and eBay would end up not having many of the offerings they do now. Its
just even more important now that buyers exercise reasonable caution.
Luckily, I've had nothing but good experiences on eBay.

-Robert

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"three-eight-hotel" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>>> Changing the subject to the original post. Who among us would pay the
>>> $1000.00 if we knew that we would receive a 530 as described in the
>>> auction?
>
> I'm betting this was a rhetorical question, but in case it wasn't... I
> would! ;-)
>

No, it really was more of a moral question. If you can get a 530 for a grand
it has to be stolen. Though I think I'd take it and just ask extra hard for
forgiveness the next Sunday.

[Montblack]

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
> No, it really was more of a moral question. If you can get a 530 for a
> grand it has to be stolen. Though I think I'd take it and just ask extra
> hard for forgiveness the next Sunday.


So you're in the stolen property / fencing business, eh?

My friends had their house broken into, probably your ring. I had my car
stolen on Dec 29th, 1984. You again?

You buy that 530, now your business partners need another 530 ...to sell -
no buying involved here.

When do your boys come to my garage, or my house, or my parent's house, or
my sister's car, OR MY FRIENDS' PLANES, to replace their sold inventory?


Montblack

[Dave Stadt]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
>> No, it really was more of a moral question. If you can get a 530 for a
>> grand it has to be stolen. Though I think I'd take it and just ask extra
>> hard for forgiveness the next Sunday.
>
>
> So you're in the stolen property / fencing business, eh?
>
> My friends had their house broken into, probably your ring. I had my car
> stolen on Dec 29th, 1984. You again?
>
> You buy that 530, now your business partners need another 530 ...to sell -
> no buying involved here.
>
> When do your boys come to my garage, or my house, or my parent's house, or
> my sister's car, OR MY FRIENDS' PLANES, to replace their sold inventory?
>
>
> Montblack


I'll make you a deal. I'll pay you $1,200 for your 530. We'll cut out the
middle man.

[NW_PILOT]

> Anybody stupid
> enough to click on the link provided has now given their eBay account
> details to somebody who can and will now use it to buy or sell
> fraudulently.
>


No!! anyone stupid enough to plug in their username & password, when you get
them keep them busy just start filling out the user name and pass with BS
info,

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
>> No, it really was more of a moral question. If you can get a 530 for a
>> grand it has to be stolen. Though I think I'd take it and just ask extra
>> hard for forgiveness the next Sunday.
>
>
> So you're in the stolen property / fencing business, eh?
>
> My friends had their house broken into, probably your ring. I had my car
> stolen on Dec 29th, 1984. You again?
>
> You buy that 530, now your business partners need another 530 ...to sell -
> no buying involved here.
>
> When do your boys come to my garage, or my house, or my parent's house, or
> my sister's car, OR MY FRIENDS' PLANES, to replace their sold inventory?
>

I sent the seller an e-mail before eBay shut him down from my throwaway
g-mail account. Here's his reply.

Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail.
My Units are brand new in original factory box with 3 years full warranty
from
manufacturer.The buy it now price is 1000usd/unit, including the shipping
and
handling,I
will pay them because the package will be delivered from Europe
Shipping: this is something you shouldn't worry about because I believe it
is my
responsibility to deliver the items safely to your home.
I will use UPS 2days air service (with insurance and 15 days
return policy).
The payment which I accept is Western Union money transfer.
I have chosen Western Union's as a payment method because they have always
served our
needs in a professional manner. We consider promptness a vital condition of
the modern
e-Commerce market
Thank's and if you agree with my terms please mail me ASAP