Re: Re-learning IFR

[Jim]

jbo,
I'm roughly in the same position as you and I've found that reading the AIM
really helps more than ever. I've been teaching a instrument rating ground
school and honestly the answers to most of the students questions are in the
AIM. Although the main objective is for the students to prepare for the FAA
test, we've been useing Peger Dogan's book to apply theory to real world
flying. The IFH is also used in this aspect and it's really one of the
FAA's better books.
--
Jim Burns III

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"BoDEAN" > wrote in message
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> Getting ready to get back into my CFII training. Wondering what
> books/material you recommend I start reading/brushing up on when I
> have bad weather days out at the airport? Jepps instrument book?
> Instrument flying handbook (read cover to cover?) ?
>
>

[EDR]

One of the things that helped me the most was reading all of Don
Brown's ATC columns on AvWeb.

[Jim]

Yep. I agree. In fact, I've printed them all out for our ground school.
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Jim Burns III

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"EDR" > wrote in message
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> One of the things that helped me the most was reading all of Don
> Brown's ATC columns on AvWeb.

[Jim]

http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182651-1.html

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Jim Burns III

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"BoDEAN" > wrote in message
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> Do you have a direct url to the articles?
> Looking on avweb now
>
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:10:44 GMT, EDR > wrote:
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> >
> >One of the things that helped me the most was reading all of Don
> >Brown's ATC columns on AvWeb.
>

[Bob Gardner]

Haven't FAA books improved since the FAA quit writing them and farmed the
task out to the aviation education community?

Bob Gardner

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> jbo,
> I'm roughly in the same position as you and I've found that reading the
AIM
> really helps more than ever. I've been teaching a instrument rating
ground
> school and honestly the answers to most of the students questions are in
the
> AIM. Although the main objective is for the students to prepare for the
FAA
> test, we've been useing Peger Dogan's book to apply theory to real world
> flying. The IFH is also used in this aspect and it's really one of the
> FAA's better books.
> --
> Jim Burns III
>
> Remove "nospam" to reply
>
>
> "BoDEAN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Getting ready to get back into my CFII training. Wondering what
> > books/material you recommend I start reading/brushing up on when I
> > have bad weather days out at the airport? Jepps instrument book?
> > Instrument flying handbook (read cover to cover?) ?
> >
> >
>
>

[Bob Gardner]

I enjoy Don's columns as well, and have had the opportunity to talk to him
in person. Be advised, though, that his thinking is Atlanta-centered (no pun
intended) and that not all controllers agree with him.

Bob Gardner

"BoDEAN" > wrote in message
...
> They are that good?
>
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:14:49 -0600, "Jim" >
> wrote:
>
> >Yep. I agree. In fact, I've printed them all out for our ground school.
>

[EDR]

In article >, BoDEAN
> wrote:

> They are that good?

I hadn't flown IFR since 1986 and got recurrent last October 2002.
Flying was the easy part, relearning the procedures stuff was where I
needed the refresher.
Don's articles give you the big and little picture, explaining why ATC
operates the way it does. I has helped me when filing the routing I
want and knowing what to expect from the system.

[[email protected]]

The FAA did the recent IFH, which has lots of bum info.

Bob Gardner wrote:

> Haven't FAA books improved since the FAA quit writing them and farmed the
> task out to the aviation education community?
>
> Bob Gardner
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > jbo,
> > I'm roughly in the same position as you and I've found that reading the
> AIM
> > really helps more than ever. I've been teaching a instrument rating
> ground
> > school and honestly the answers to most of the students questions are in
> the
> > AIM. Although the main objective is for the students to prepare for the
> FAA
> > test, we've been useing Peger Dogan's book to apply theory to real world
> > flying. The IFH is also used in this aspect and it's really one of the
> > FAA's better books.
> > --
> > Jim Burns III
> >
> > Remove "nospam" to reply
> >
> >
> > "BoDEAN" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Getting ready to get back into my CFII training. Wondering what
> > > books/material you recommend I start reading/brushing up on when I
> > > have bad weather days out at the airport? Jepps instrument book?
> > > Instrument flying handbook (read cover to cover?) ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

[Bob Gardner]

The IFH was written by ASA under contract to the FAA, but the feds had the
final say on the text. I wrote chapters 4, 5, and 8...what don't you like?

Bob Gardner

> wrote in message
...
> The FAA did the recent IFH, which has lots of bum info.
>
> Bob Gardner wrote:
>
> > Haven't FAA books improved since the FAA quit writing them and farmed
the
> > task out to the aviation education community?
> >
> > Bob Gardner
> >
> > "Jim" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > jbo,
> > > I'm roughly in the same position as you and I've found that reading
the
> > AIM
> > > really helps more than ever. I've been teaching a instrument rating
> > ground
> > > school and honestly the answers to most of the students questions are
in
> > the
> > > AIM. Although the main objective is for the students to prepare for
the
> > FAA
> > > test, we've been useing Peger Dogan's book to apply theory to real
world
> > > flying. The IFH is also used in this aspect and it's really one of
the
> > > FAA's better books.
> > > --
> > > Jim Burns III
> > >
> > > Remove "nospam" to reply
> > >
> > >
> > > "BoDEAN" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Getting ready to get back into my CFII training. Wondering what
> > > > books/material you recommend I start reading/brushing up on when I
> > > > have bad weather days out at the airport? Jepps instrument book?
> > > > Instrument flying handbook (read cover to cover?) ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>

[Bob Gardner]

I should add the the FAA editors substituted their own biases and changed a
lot of the text submitted to them...gives me the opportunity to blame them
for anything you don't like (:-).

ASA also did the W&B Handbook (8083-1). I think Jepp did the Airplane Flying
Handbook, with its horrible index....like everything else in the government,
the low bidder gets the job. Bill Kershner tells me that he has had bad
experience with the FAA using his material without compensation or
permission in the past and will not bid on any of the rewrites.

Bob Gardner

> wrote in message
...
> The FAA did the recent IFH, which has lots of bum info.
>
> Bob Gardner wrote:
>
> > Haven't FAA books improved since the FAA quit writing them and farmed
the
> > task out to the aviation education community?
> >
> > Bob Gardner
> >
> > "Jim" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > jbo,
> > > I'm roughly in the same position as you and I've found that reading
the
> > AIM
> > > really helps more than ever. I've been teaching a instrument rating
> > ground
> > > school and honestly the answers to most of the students questions are
in
> > the
> > > AIM. Although the main objective is for the students to prepare for
the
> > FAA
> > > test, we've been useing Peger Dogan's book to apply theory to real
world
> > > flying. The IFH is also used in this aspect and it's really one of
the
> > > FAA's better books.
> > > --
> > > Jim Burns III
> > >
> > > Remove "nospam" to reply
> > >
> > >
> > > "BoDEAN" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Getting ready to get back into my CFII training. Wondering what
> > > > books/material you recommend I start reading/brushing up on when I
> > > > have bad weather days out at the airport? Jepps instrument book?
> > > > Instrument flying handbook (read cover to cover?) ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>