Average price per qt/case 15W50?

[Doug Vetter]

Hi All,

I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
$47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
prices on this stuff, but jeez.

Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?

Thanks for the help,

-Doug

--------------------
Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI

http://www.dvatp.com
--------------------

[[email protected]]

On 27-Mar-2006, Doug Vetter > wrote:

> ve burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
> price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. <snip>
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?


Last I checked a couple of months ago, the price quoted by the local Shell
distributor for a case of 15W50 was actually a couple of bucks MORE that a
local pilot supply outlet, where, IIRC, I paid $65.00 (plus tax).

In case you are wondering, I also shopped the Internet. Some on-line prices
were a tad lower, but not when you figured in shipping cost.

-Elliott Drucker

[Denny]

I use 100W in the warm half of the year <at half the price> and 15W50
in the cold half... A small way to save...
Right now the sump is <was> full of 15W50 from the oil change in
January but it is getting warmer even here in Michigan so I am topping
off with 100W now... Next oil change will be in a few weeks and it will
be straight 100W until fall when it begins to cool and I will begin
topping off with 15W50 until the oil change time...
BTW just to stir the pot, I change my oil every 35 hours <give or take
a few, depending on how fast it gets dark> and the filter every 100
hours <give or take>...

denny

[Michelle]

Doug Vetter wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
> price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

Consider yourself lucky.
Mine is near $80 per case. Local Dealer.
Michelle

[Jim Burns]

Our schedule is about the same as Denny's. 100W in summer, 15W50 in winter,
change oil every 33 hours, filters every 66. I bought 5 cases of 15W50 from
the wholesaler in gallon jugs a couple months ago and it cost 16.24 per
gallon, I could have gotten quarts for the same relative price. I only
saved about 5% over the FBO's price. We buy the 100W bulk in a 55 gallon
drum because we use more during the summer months. We usually save about
$.75-$1.00 per quart over the FBO price that way.
Jim

"Doug Vetter" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
> price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[M]

Unless you need the Triphenyl Phosphate oil additive required by the
AD, you can switch to Phillips X/C 20W-50. Used the money saved to buy
gas and fly more often, which does good to your engine.

That additive has been suspected to cause higher level of copper in the
oil analysis.

[Jon Kraus]

Last September I paid $59.00 per case of 15W50 delivered to my doorstep.

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ

Doug Vetter wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
> price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Doug Vetter > wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the
> price of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?

I just checked the price at my local (Daytona Beach) Sam's Club.
Aeroshell 15W-50 is approx. $53/case, while W100 is around $35/case.
Apparently they don't stock W100+, although I saw some a couple of years
ago.

[Ronnie]

Here are the latest prices (as of today 3/28) from the distributor
where I walk up to their counter and buy it in Austin, TX:

15W50 $52.65 per case (12 quarts)
100WPlus $41.10 per case
100W $32.78 per case

They did not have the new 80WPlus (see below) in stock yet, but I'd assume
it would be the same as 100W Plus. These prices do not include
the 8.25% Texas sales tax.


FYI, I just received a Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin
from the FAA that advises owners and operators of
Lycoming Engines O-320-H, O-360-E, LO-360-E, TO-360-E
and LTO-360-E series of engines the following approval of an alternative
method of compliance (AMOC) to the requirements of Airwothiness
Directive (AD) 80-04-03 R2.

"We have determined that the anti-wear additive
contained in AeroShell Oil W 80 Plus is the same
as Lycoming additive LW-16702 and therefore meets
the requirementsof Lycoming Service Bulletin 446B, 446C
and 446D. We have approved engine oil change to
AeroShell Oil W 80 Plus as an AMOC to the requirements
of AD 80-04-03 R2, prargraph b.1, with the limitations described
below ..... "

Additized Oil Date of AMOC Approval
=============================================
Aeroshell Oil W 15W-50 November 9, 1987
Aeroshell Oil W 100 Plus May 4, 1999
Exxon Aviation Oil Elite 20W-50 January 24,2000
Aeroshell Oil W 80 Plus February 6, 2006

From this it appears that Shell has introducted a Plus version
of the W 80 single grade oil like it did earlier with the 100 W Plus.
The Plus indicates that same additive package as found in 15W50 oil

Ronnie

"Doug Vetter" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the price
> of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[Doug Vetter]

Ronnie wrote:
> Here are the latest prices (as of today 3/28) from the distributor
> where I walk up to their counter and buy it in Austin, TX:
>
> 15W50 $52.65 per case (12 quarts)
> 100WPlus $41.10 per case
> 100W $32.78 per case

Those are great (reasonable) prices. Wish I had them here in NJ.

Regarding some of the comments to switch to 100W during the summer, I'm
not a big fan of the single weights for two reasons (one philisophical,
one anecdotal):

1) Depending on how often we fly in the fall, we could find ourselves
trying to start on a cold morning with mollasses in the sump, and all it
takes is one cold start to cause damage worth 10x more than we saved in
using the cheaper single-weight oil.

2) The ONLY time we've ever had to pull jugs (one on an O-200 and one on
the O-360) was when my partner was trying to pinch pennies and,
coincidentally, running 100W. Sticking valves in both cases. This is
hardly proof of causation, but I've continued to use what works. We've
had no problems since we went back to 15W50.

Thanks to everyone else who responded so quickly. Nice to see this
group hasn't lost its luster over the years.

-Doug

--------------------
Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI

http://www.dvatp.com
--------------------

[BTIZ]

The mech just charged me $4.50qt for 100W for the oil change during the
annual inspection. That's $54 for 12. I remember the last two cases I bought
were about $48 last fall. We use 100W year round and change oil every 50hrs
in the 0-540 with a 250HP STC.

BT

"Doug Vetter" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the price
> of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[Jim Burns]

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:VamWf.498$CL6.78@fed1read11...
> in the 0-540 with a 250HP STC.

BT... can you tell us what the 250HP STC entails for the 0-540, the STC
holder and which airframes/engine models it is available for?
Thanks,
Jim

[[email protected]]

Doug: where are you buying? I have been getting it on Cesar Chavez.
The last I bought was in the upper $40's a year or so ago and I am
about due for another case.I ould use a distributor on the north end of
town. Thanks, Leo.
Doug Vetter wrote:
> Ronnie wrote:
> > Here are the latest prices (as of today 3/28) from the distributor
> > where I walk up to their counter and buy it in Austin, TX:
> >
> > 15W50 $52.65 per case (12 quarts)
> > 100WPlus $41.10 per case
> > 100W $32.78 per case
>
> Those are great (reasonable) prices. Wish I had them here in NJ.
>
> Regarding some of the comments to switch to 100W during the summer, I'm
> not a big fan of the single weights for two reasons (one philisophical,
> one anecdotal):
>
> 1) Depending on how often we fly in the fall, we could find ourselves
> trying to start on a cold morning with mollasses in the sump, and all it
> takes is one cold start to cause damage worth 10x more than we saved in
> using the cheaper single-weight oil.
>
> 2) The ONLY time we've ever had to pull jugs (one on an O-200 and one on
> the O-360) was when my partner was trying to pinch pennies and,
> coincidentally, running 100W. Sticking valves in both cases. This is
> hardly proof of causation, but I've continued to use what works. We've
> had no problems since we went back to 15W50.
>
> Thanks to everyone else who responded so quickly. Nice to see this
> group hasn't lost its luster over the years.
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[Ronnie]

You mentioned Cesar Chavez which makes me think you are
asking about distributors in Austin. I've been buying from:

Allied Sales
5005 E 7th St
Austin, TX 78702
512-385-2167

The other distributor in Austin that I know of is:

Richards H Oil Company
2915 E Cesar Chavez (E 1st St)
Austin, TX 78702
512-385-0935

In the past when I've checked, their prices have
always been higher than Allied Sales.

If you find a distributor on the north end of town, let
me know.

Ronnie
Austin, TX

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Doug: where are you buying? I have been getting it on Cesar Chavez.
> The last I bought was in the upper $40's a year or so ago and I am
> about due for another case.I ould use a distributor on the north end of
> town. Thanks, Leo.
> Doug Vetter wrote:
>> Ronnie wrote:
>> > Here are the latest prices (as of today 3/28) from the distributor
>> > where I walk up to their counter and buy it in Austin, TX:
>> >
>> > 15W50 $52.65 per case (12 quarts)
>> > 100WPlus $41.10 per case
>> > 100W $32.78 per case
>>
>> Those are great (reasonable) prices. Wish I had them here in NJ.
>>
>> Regarding some of the comments to switch to 100W during the summer, I'm
>> not a big fan of the single weights for two reasons (one philisophical,
>> one anecdotal):
>>
>> 1) Depending on how often we fly in the fall, we could find ourselves
>> trying to start on a cold morning with mollasses in the sump, and all it
>> takes is one cold start to cause damage worth 10x more than we saved in
>> using the cheaper single-weight oil.
>>
>> 2) The ONLY time we've ever had to pull jugs (one on an O-200 and one on
>> the O-360) was when my partner was trying to pinch pennies and,
>> coincidentally, running 100W. Sticking valves in both cases. This is
>> hardly proof of causation, but I've continued to use what works. We've
>> had no problems since we went back to 15W50.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone else who responded so quickly. Nice to see this
>> group hasn't lost its luster over the years.
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>> --------------------
>> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>>
>> http://www.dvatp.com
>> --------------------
>

[me]

How is $55.00 a case ?!!! http://www.skygeek.com/oilbycase.html

I have ordered from skygeek before and picked it up at skyacres airport in
NY but they also ship for a reasonable price. I just ordered from them last
week and they were great to deal with.
I hope this helps..

Jon



"Doug Vetter" > wrote in message
...
> Hi All,
>
> I've burned through my last four cases of 15W50 and was about to reorder
> from my local Shell distributor when I was shocked to find that the price
> of a case of 12 qt bottles has risen to $68. I used to pay around
> $47/case from these people, but that was several years ago (last time I
> ordered it had risen to $56). It's hard to ignore the impact of crude
> prices on this stuff, but jeez.
>
> Can any of you who are able to get this stuff at Walmart or other
> distributors (or heck...anyone who's bought a single quart from an FBO
> lately) give me some prices so I can clarify how good a deal this is?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> -Doug
>
> --------------------
> Doug Vetter, ATP/CFI
>
> http://www.dvatp.com
> --------------------

[BTIZ]

Jim, two STCs for the Piper Pawnee
First, STC SA1433GL allows upgrade of a Lycoming O-540-B2B5 or B2C5 at 235HP
to a O-540-B2B5-CA1D5 or O-540-B2C5-CA1D5 engine at 250HP at 2575RPM.

Second STC SA1436GL allows installation of the modified engine into the
PA-25-235 airframe.

Both are owned by Howard Kron of Howards Aircraft Service in Clara City MN.
Both can be found on the FAA web pages if you look up the STC number. The
fee to Howard for the STC is cheap, around $200 and the only parts were a
different piston and rings into the standard engine. We did this upgrade
during an engine overhaul.

BT

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
>
> "BTIZ" > wrote in message
> news:VamWf.498$CL6.78@fed1read11...
>> in the 0-540 with a 250HP STC.
>
> BT... can you tell us what the 250HP STC entails for the 0-540, the STC
> holder and which airframes/engine models it is available for?
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>