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john szpara
March 28th 06, 06:33 PM
(I posted this in rec.aviation.piloting, instead of this newsgroup, by
mistake)

I've decided that a T182RG (turbo, retract) would be a better choice
for me, economically than a T210. It was a tough decision, because I
love 210s, but right now it's the right choice.

I would appreciate any input you have on the T182RG. Yearly costs,
major mechanical work, fuel burn and even the performance numbers you
are getting.

My purchase budget is $160,000, cash, and it should include
everything. I'm talking purchase, taxes, annual/prepurchase and a
slush fund for fixing any discrepancies. I hope that will cover any
needed avionics upgrades, as well.

My operating budget is currently $30,000/yr.

Does it look like I can afford this plane?

John Szpara
Private pilot
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT

Dan Luke
March 28th 06, 11:23 PM
"john szpara" wrote:

>
> My operating budget is currently $30,000/yr.
>
> Does it look like I can afford this plane?

Not including any loan payments, I'd say that would easily cover 100 hours or
so per year for a turbo Skylane RG, plus some left over for upgrades.

My 172 RG costs me about $100/hour for 120 hrs/year, including everything but
opportunity cost of capital tied up in the airplane.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

john szpara
March 29th 06, 04:20 AM
>> My operating budget is currently $30,000/yr.
>>
>> Does it look like I can afford this plane?
>
>Not including any loan payments, I'd say that would easily cover 100 hours or
>so per year for a turbo Skylane RG, plus some left over for upgrades.
>
>My 172 RG costs me about $100/hour for 120 hrs/year, including everything but
>opportunity cost of capital tied up in the airplane.

There wouldn't be any loan payments.


John Szpara
Private pilot
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT

Mark Hansen
March 29th 06, 05:17 AM
On 03/28/06 19:20, john szpara wrote:
>>> My operating budget is currently $30,000/yr.
>>>
>>> Does it look like I can afford this plane?
>>
>>Not including any loan payments, I'd say that would easily cover 100 hours or
>>so per year for a turbo Skylane RG, plus some left over for upgrades.
>>
>>My 172 RG costs me about $100/hour for 120 hrs/year, including everything but
>>opportunity cost of capital tied up in the airplane.
>
> There wouldn't be any loan payments.

He was referring to the lost revenue which could have been made
if you had invested the money rather than put it into the airplane.

>
>
> John Szpara
> Private pilot
> Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

March 29th 06, 05:55 AM
On 28-Mar-2006, Mark Hansen > wrote:

> He was referring to the lost revenue which could have been made
> if you had invested the money rather than put it into the airplane.


But much of that will be recovered in the appreciation of the airplane.
Over the past 10 years, our Arrow has appreciated in value by an average of
about 5.5%/year. Not bad as investments go.

-Elliott Drucker

john szpara
March 29th 06, 08:10 AM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 04:55:18 GMT,
wrote:

>
>On 28-Mar-2006, Mark Hansen > wrote:
>
>> He was referring to the lost revenue which could have been made
>> if you had invested the money rather than put it into the airplane.
>
>
>But much of that will be recovered in the appreciation of the airplane.
>Over the past 10 years, our Arrow has appreciated in value by an average of
>about 5.5%/year. Not bad as investments go.
>
>-Elliott Drucker

True. Most Cessnas aren't doing badly in that regard. If we ignore
lost "opportunity cost", think about what having your own plane gives
you. That's something that is hard to put a pricetag on.

John Szpara
Private pilot
Fiero Owner 2-84 Indy Pace cars, 86 Coupe, 88 Formula 3.4, 88 Coupe, 88GT

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