Cracked ribs/Piper SB 1161 update

[Jack Allison]

Price of two new ribs............ 1.1 AMUs
Crating those ribs for shipment.. 0.1 AMU
Labor estimate................... 3.5 AMUs to 4.9 AMUs (50-70 hours)
Kleenex.......................... Free

At least I can divide by three and share the pain. Good thing I'd been
flying like crazy the past few months finishing up my instrument rating
because I'll probably be logging way less time the next few months as
the flying budget absorbs the hit.

What's that MontBlack? Why, yes, I would like some chicken with those
ribs! :-P

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jay Honeck]

> Price of two new ribs............ 1.1 AMUs
> Crating those ribs for shipment.. 0.1 AMU
> Labor estimate................... 3.5 AMUs to 4.9 AMUs (50-70 hours)
> Kleenex.......................... Free

Augh! That sucks. Sorry to hear it, Jack.

But you should look at it this way. I paid that amount for an ANNUAL
on a WARRIOR, back in 1998. And I could only split it two ways -- with
my wife!

There, see? Now it doesn't hurt so much! Misery DOES love company!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Burns]

Damn that sucks. How much will you be able to help with the labor?
Jim

"Jack Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Price of two new ribs............ 1.1 AMUs
> Crating those ribs for shipment.. 0.1 AMU
> Labor estimate................... 3.5 AMUs to 4.9 AMUs (50-70 hours)
> Kleenex.......................... Free
>
> At least I can divide by three and share the pain. Good thing I'd been
> flying like crazy the past few months finishing up my instrument rating
> because I'll probably be logging way less time the next few months as
> the flying budget absorbs the hit.
>
> What's that MontBlack? Why, yes, I would like some chicken with those
> ribs! :-P
>
> --
> Jack Allison
> PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
> Arrow N2104T
>
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
> with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
> you will always long to return"
> - Leonardo Da Vinci
>
> (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Mark Hansen]

On 03/31/06 20:30, Jack Allison wrote:
> Price of two new ribs............ 1.1 AMUs
> Crating those ribs for shipment.. 0.1 AMU
> Labor estimate................... 3.5 AMUs to 4.9 AMUs (50-70 hours)
> Kleenex.......................... Free
>

Kleenex ... heh, heh.

I guess this wouldn't be good time to tell you how much I had
to pay for the last annual on my club planes? ;-)

Yeah ... It's probably better if I don't mention it.

[Jim Burns]

Paul, it sounds like we'll have to dig some extra potatoes, pick some extra
beans and sweet corn this year so the Allison clan leaves well supplied.
That AD's gonna cut into their grocery bill!

Now that Jay's done with his annual, Jack is busy getting all kinds of
valuable experience, and Bob did his annual from the couch, you're all
invited to OSH this summer during which the Aztec will be in for annual. I
purposely planned it so everybody could help!! Daily ground transportation,
screw drivers, grease rags, and after hours refreshments will be provided.

Jim


"Jack Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Price of two new ribs............ 1.1 AMUs
> Crating those ribs for shipment.. 0.1 AMU
> Labor estimate................... 3.5 AMUs to 4.9 AMUs (50-70 hours)
> Kleenex.......................... Free
>
> At least I can divide by three and share the pain. Good thing I'd been
> flying like crazy the past few months finishing up my instrument rating
> because I'll probably be logging way less time the next few months as
> the flying budget absorbs the hit.
>
> What's that MontBlack? Why, yes, I would like some chicken with those
> ribs! :-P
>
> --
> Jack Allison
> PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
> Arrow N2104T
>
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
> with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
> you will always long to return"
> - Leonardo Da Vinci
>
> (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Montblack]

("Jim Burns" wrote)
> Paul, it sounds like we'll have to dig some extra potatoes, pick some
> extra
> beans and sweet corn this year so the Allison clan leaves well supplied.
> That AD's gonna cut into their grocery bill!

A: That's ...The Spam Can Allison Clan
B: Oh boy, I get to drive the tractor!

> Now that Jay's done with his annual, Jack is busy getting all kinds of
> valuable experience, and Bob did his annual from the couch, you're all
> invited to OSH this summer during which the Aztec will be in for annual.
> I
> purposely planned it so everybody could help!! Daily ground
> transportation,
> screw drivers, grease rags, and after hours refreshments will be provided.

That's NOT an April Fool's joke folks. I've got pics of me doing just that!

"Can I go back home to the Twin Cities now, please?"
"As soon as WE get this prop off you can. Don't scratch the cowl with that
screwdriver, please."


Montblack
Next time I'm signing the logbook. <g>

[Jim Burns]

> That's NOT an April Fool's joke folks. I've got pics of me doing just
that!
>
> "Can I go back home to the Twin Cities now, please?"
> "As soon as WE get this prop off you can. Don't scratch the cowl with that
> screwdriver, please."
>
> Montblack
> Next time I'm signing the logbook. <g>

: ) eternally grateful!! Paul's Prop Removal Assistance and Logistics is
the best I've ever used!!

Jim

[Jack Allison]

Jim Burns wrote:
> Damn that sucks. How much will you be able to help with the labor?
> Jim
>

Unfortunately, none. Work schedule hours and shop hours pretty much
overlap. Too bad I can't deliver my brother to the shop for a few days.
He's got plenty of rivet busting/squeezing experience and his rates
are way cheap! :-)


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jack Allison]

Mark Hansen wrote:

> I guess this wouldn't be good time to tell you how much I had
> to pay for the last annual on my club planes? ;-)
>
> Yeah ... It's probably better if I don't mention it.
Well...we could talk about aircraft availability...but I suppose the
argument would digress into whether or not that is worth the additional
AMU value amortized over how many hours one flies, etc. :-)


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jack Allison]

Jim Burns wrote:
> Paul, it sounds like we'll have to dig some extra potatoes, pick some extra
> beans and sweet corn this year so the Allison clan leaves well supplied.
> That AD's gonna cut into their grocery bill!

So long as you ship all those groceries back to CA. Four people in the
Arrow this year won't allow a lot in terms of baggage. Sorry Jay, no
case of local beer coming your way this year :-( Was that the sound of
my Alexis Park Inn & Suites room rate just going up? In his best Hotel
Nazi voice, "No discount for you!" :-)

> I
> purposely planned it so everybody could help!! Daily ground transportation,
> screw drivers, grease rags, and after hours refreshments will be provided.

Hmmm, almost sounds like a new forum, "Practical Aztec Owner Assisted
Maintenance as illustrated by Jim Burns".


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Mark Hansen]

On 04/01/06 12:49, Jack Allison wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>
>> I guess this wouldn't be good time to tell you how much I had
>> to pay for the last annual on my club planes? ;-)
>>
>> Yeah ... It's probably better if I don't mention it.
> Well...we could talk about aircraft availability...but I suppose the
> argument would digress into whether or not that is worth the additional
> AMU value amortized over how many hours one flies, etc. :-)

Yeah, it's just like a club member to throw something like cost into
an owner's face ;-)

Still, I'd rather be in your position than mine ;-\ The club
imposes a lot of restrictions to help keep all the green pilots
safe.

Sucks that you have to pay so much, but at least it's going
into your own plane (unlike my rental dollars).

Are those numbers you quoted accurate? That's just south of 5k, right?
Ouch.

[Jack Allison]

Mark Hansen wrote:
>
> Are those numbers you quoted accurate? That's just south of 5k, right?
> Ouch.

As accurate as can be with the given labor estimate. Parts is a known
1.2 AMUs. They tend to estimate high on the labor so that there's not
an overrun. So...on the low side of the estimate (parts plus labor),
we're looking at 4.7 AMUs. High side of the estimate is 6.1 AMUs. Yes,
ouch. :-/ Dividing by three helps but is still going to take a chunk
out of the flying funds.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Montblack]

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> Ahem. If Jim can ship potatoes to CA, I'll bet you can ship some
> home-grown Kalifornia beer in advance of your journey? (Packed in ice,
> please...)


Jack and I are working out an OSH JIT inventory/delivery system. All beer
WILL be routed through me. It may, or may not, get rerouted down to IOW.

NAC (Necessary Aviation Content)
Think Denver Airport's baggage system :-)


Mont...brown
The Airplane of Minivans

[Jack Allison]

Montblack wrote:

> Jack and I are working out an OSH JIT inventory/delivery system. All
> beer WILL be routed through me. It may, or may not, get rerouted down to
> IOW.
>
> NAC (Necessary Aviation Content)
> Think Denver Airport's baggage system :-)
>
>
> Mont...brown
> The Airplane of Minivans

ROTLF. Paul, you crack me up. Oops, shouldn't say that "c" word too
much or I start twitching.

Sorry Jay, I forgot about MontBrown and the new Twin Cities Hub. I
should have figured there was something in the fine print about any and
all out of state beer shipments. Though, I suppose if I shipped a lot,
maybe some would get through (?) Nah...didn't think so.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jay Honeck]

> Sorry Jay, I forgot about MontBrown and the new Twin Cities Hub. I
> should have figured there was something in the fine print about any and
> all out of state beer shipments. Though, I suppose if I shipped a lot,
> maybe some would get through (?) Nah...didn't think so.

Hmmm... There must be SOME beer Montbrown doesn't like that you can
safely ship in advance...

Hmmmm...upon further reflection...nah...didn't think so...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jack Allison]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>
> Hmmm... There must be SOME beer Montbrown doesn't like that you can
> safely ship in advance...
Well, probably anything with "lite" in the title...but that brings up a
whole new set of issues.

>
> Hmmmm...upon further reflection...nah...didn't think so...

Yep, unless I do some creative re-labeling and package it up to look
like a case of something he doesn't like, I think there's little chance
of getting anything through the MontBrown inspection department. Can't
label it as "boat parts" either. Hey, I know, label it as something
that Jim needs for the Aztec annual...nah, then we'd have another
problem to deal with.

Ok, I admit it, I need a bigger plane. Suddenly, that rib repair bill
doesn't seem all that bad! :-)


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Montblack]

("Jack Allison" wrote)
> Yep, unless I do some creative re-labeling and package it up to look like
> a case of something he doesn't like, I think there's little chance of
> getting anything through the MontBrown inspection department.


http://www.enutritionshop.com/product_detail.asp?T1=SLI+FC3041
This might escape inspection :-)


MontBrown
37 F ...with snow slush globs falling in the Twin Cities.
7:10 pm and it's STILL light outside. Yee-haw! Spring is here.

[Jim Burns]

First ship him a couple cases of Hamm's

DUN dun dun dun DUN dun dun dun
From the land of sky blue waters (waters),
From the land of pines, lofty balsams,
Comes the beer refreshing,
Hamm's, the beer refreshing.

DUN dun dun dun DUN dun dun dun
Brewed where nature works her wonders,
Aged for many moons, gently mellowed,
Hamm's the beer refreshing,
Hamm's the beer refreshing.
Hamm's.

he'll dive into those like a bear into honey.... the rest of the shipment
will go unnoticed!
Jim

"Jack Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>
>> Hmmm... There must be SOME beer Montbrown doesn't like that you can
>> safely ship in advance...
> Well, probably anything with "lite" in the title...but that brings up a
> whole new set of issues.
>
>>
>> Hmmmm...upon further reflection...nah...didn't think so...
>
> Yep, unless I do some creative re-labeling and package it up to look like
> a case of something he doesn't like, I think there's little chance of
> getting anything through the MontBrown inspection department. Can't label
> it as "boat parts" either. Hey, I know, label it as something that Jim
> needs for the Aztec annual...nah, then we'd have another problem to deal
> with.
>
> Ok, I admit it, I need a bigger plane. Suddenly, that rib repair bill
> doesn't seem all that bad! :-)
>
>
> --
> Jack Allison
> PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
> Arrow N2104T
>
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
> with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
> you will always long to return"
> - Leonardo Da Vinci
>
> (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Jay Honeck]

> First ship him a couple cases of Hamm's
>
> DUN dun dun dun DUN dun dun dun
> From the land of sky blue waters (waters),
> From the land of pines, lofty balsams,
> Comes the beer refreshing,
> Hamm's, the beer refreshing.
>
> DUN dun dun dun DUN dun dun dun
> Brewed where nature works her wonders,
> Aged for many moons, gently mellowed,
> Hamm's the beer refreshing,
> Hamm's the beer refreshing.
> Hamm's.

Wow -- I didn't remember the second verse!

Great idea -- but do they still make Hamm's?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Yep, somebody does... looks like Miller.

We used to call Hamm's "brat-boiling beer" -- and that was back when we
drank "Old Style", cuz it was cheap.

It was pretty good on a hot summer day, after playing football, though.
Of course, so was water.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Burns]

lol Old Style was the beer I grew up on, cuz it was cheap. I don't think
I've had any in 25 years. I shiver every time I see some one drinking it!
;)
Jim

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> > Yep, somebody does... looks like Miller.
>
> We used to call Hamm's "brat-boiling beer" -- and that was back when we
> drank "Old Style", cuz it was cheap.
>
> It was pretty good on a hot summer day, after playing football, though.
> Of course, so was water.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>