FAA Sharing databases with PP medical insurance databases??

[Larry]

How far away are we based on the recent SSI sharing with the FAA just
in Northern Califonia !!?? I don't even want to go there...but ??

PP :+(

[Dave S]

Larry wrote:
> How far away are we based on the recent SSI sharing with the FAA just
> in Northern Califonia !!?? I don't even want to go there...but ??
>
> PP :+(
>

Hold on there a minute.. its not as sinister as you think...

Investigators with the SSI folks were doing an investigation on SSI fraud.

They cross referenced THEIR list (which is the non-public one... with
medical information and such)...

and checked it against many other PUBLIC databases (such as the pilot
one.. and if I remember right, inclusion in the pilot database is based
on a current medical (or other criteria if a medical isnt required).

On the ones that they had matches on, they then had probably cause to
investigate further, obtain warrants and such... Your SSI information
was NOT inappropriately shared. If anything, it was good sleuth work.

The folks that they indicted and nailed to the wall were people who
applied for and recieved disability for conditions that were
automatically disqualifying for medical certificates, and who lied about
it on their medical apps:

For instance, claiming mental health disability for psychotic disorders
and then obtaining an FAA medical with no disclosure.


We aren't talking about not disclosing a blood pressure pill or minor
surgical procedure (which also require disclosure..).. we are talking
about people who fraudulently applied to the US government with the
intent to recieve disability funds, and who got caught because they
chose the wrong hobby... and who did this for YEARS.

If anything, your private (and public) medical records are safer than
ever before, if you believe all the hype over HIPAA.

So why dont you want to go there? Are you waiting to be indicted for
fraud? Did you "forget" to include something on your medical app?

Dave

[Mike Noel]

I'm not too concerned about this particular 'sting', either. What I do
worry about is if the government starts requiring all kinds of disclosures
and sifts through the data with computers, they will inevitably make
mistakes and confuse identities. Trying to clear things up with government
agencies is sometimes difficult or impossible no matter how right you are
and how wrong they are.

That scares me.

--
Best Regards,
Mike
http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel
"Larry" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> How far away are we based on the recent SSI sharing with the FAA just
> in Northern Califonia !!?? I don't even want to go there...but ??
>
> PP :+(
>

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Dave S" > wrote in message
nk.net...


> They cross referenced THEIR list (which is the non-public one... with
> medical information and such)...
>
> and checked it against many other PUBLIC databases (such as the pilot
> one.. and if I remember right, inclusion in the pilot database is based on
> a current medical (or other criteria if a medical isnt required).
>

The data base (as accessed via the web page) includes people who haven't had
a medical in 20+ years (me) and people that are dead (not me).

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Dave S]

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
> "Dave S" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>
>
>
>>They cross referenced THEIR list (which is the non-public one... with
>>medical information and such)...
>>
>>and checked it against many other PUBLIC databases (such as the pilot
>>one.. and if I remember right, inclusion in the pilot database is based on
>>a current medical (or other criteria if a medical isnt required).
>>
>
>
> The data base (as accessed via the web page) includes people who haven't had
> a medical in 20+ years (me) and people that are dead (not me).
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.
>
>

I bet you dollars to donuts a few of the dead ones might still be
recieving disability checks..

:P
Dave

[Matt Barrow]

"Mike Noel" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not too concerned about this particular 'sting', either. What I do
> worry about is if the government starts requiring all kinds of disclosures
> and sifts through the data with computers, they will inevitably make
> mistakes and confuse identities. Trying to clear things up with
> government agencies is sometimes difficult or impossible no matter how
> right you are and how wrong they are.
>
> That scares me.
>
And there is no recompense for their ineptitude (rather, they get
promoted...see the INS bozo that processed the 9/11 terrorists paperwork,
for example.)

[Larry]

Dave: Of course not but as an EAA guy who likes the LSA Driver's
license privledges, I'd hate to see medical requirements change.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree.

Larry


Dave S wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > How far away are we based on the recent SSI sharing with the FAA just
> > in Northern Califonia !!?? I don't even want to go there...but ??
> >
> > PP :+(
> >
>
> Hold on there a minute.. its not as sinister as you think...
>
> Investigators with the SSI folks were doing an investigation on SSI fraud.
>
> They cross referenced THEIR list (which is the non-public one... with
> medical information and such)...
>
> and checked it against many other PUBLIC databases (such as the pilot
> one.. and if I remember right, inclusion in the pilot database is based
> on a current medical (or other criteria if a medical isnt required).
>
> On the ones that they had matches on, they then had probably cause to
> investigate further, obtain warrants and such... Your SSI information
> was NOT inappropriately shared. If anything, it was good sleuth work.
>
> The folks that they indicted and nailed to the wall were people who
> applied for and recieved disability for conditions that were
> automatically disqualifying for medical certificates, and who lied about
> it on their medical apps:
>
> For instance, claiming mental health disability for psychotic disorders
> and then obtaining an FAA medical with no disclosure.
>
>
> We aren't talking about not disclosing a blood pressure pill or minor
> surgical procedure (which also require disclosure..).. we are talking
> about people who fraudulently applied to the US government with the
> intent to recieve disability funds, and who got caught because they
> chose the wrong hobby... and who did this for YEARS.
>
> If anything, your private (and public) medical records are safer than
> ever before, if you believe all the hype over HIPAA.
>
> So why dont you want to go there? Are you waiting to be indicted for
> fraud? Did you "forget" to include something on your medical app?
>
> Dave