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John Clonts
March 10th 04, 05:15 PM
I subscribe to fboweb for flight tracking. I see routes described
like these examples:

SAT.V163.LZZ..JEN.KNEAD5.GKY/1754
ABI.V77.SJT..JCT..STV..SAT/0245
RBD./.TPL..BAZ
F18./.JEN256001..SEP/2202
MFE./.CRP357001..CWK..T74*
BMQ..GRK150004..TPL/1756
ABI..3536/10059..PPA/1709
OKC./.ACT.V15.CLL.BLUBL1.7XS0/2251
SAT./.GRK347035..JEN.KNEAD5.ADS
PNE./.MANTA.V139.HTO.V308.ORW.ORW011.GRAYM.GRAYM2.LWM
ILE./.ROCKK060034..LIT

Questions:
1) Is this exactly the format in which they exist on ATC computers
and/or flight progress strips;
if so
2) Mostly it's pretty self-explanatory. But is there a definitive
explanation of the format somewhere?
3) I infer that "..: means "direct", and that the trailing "/2251" is
an ETA. But what is "./."? Radar Vectors? And what is the trailing
"*" on "T74*"?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

Steven P. McNicoll
March 10th 04, 05:57 PM
"John Clonts" > wrote in message
om...
>
> I subscribe to fboweb for flight tracking. I see routes described
> like these examples:
>
> SAT.V163.LZZ..JEN.KNEAD5.GKY/1754
> ABI.V77.SJT..JCT..STV..SAT/0245
> RBD./.TPL..BAZ
> F18./.JEN256001..SEP/2202
> MFE./.CRP357001..CWK..T74*
> BMQ..GRK150004..TPL/1756
> ABI..3536/10059..PPA/1709
> OKC./.ACT.V15.CLL.BLUBL1.7XS0/2251
> SAT./.GRK347035..JEN.KNEAD5.ADS
>
> PNE./.MANTA.V139.HTO.V308.ORW.ORW011.GRAYM.GRAYM2.LWM
> ILE./.ROCKK060034..LIT
>
> Questions:
> 1) Is this exactly the format in which they exist on ATC computers
> and/or flight progress strips;
>

This is exactly how they are input; one dot between unlike items (route/fix)
and two dots between like items (route/route or fix/fix). The dots don't
print out on the strips.


>
> if so
> 2) Mostly it's pretty self-explanatory. But is there a definitive
> explanation of the format somewhere?
>

There is an explanation in the N4 flight data processing manual, haven't
seen one in years.


>
> 3) I infer that "..: means "direct",
>

Two dots between fixes means direct between those fixes, two dots between
routes means track the first route to intercept the second.


>
> and that the trailing "/2251" is an ETA.
>

Yes.


>
> But what is "./."? Radar Vectors?
>

No, it means the route was truncated. This is an active enroute strip, the
controller only cares about the route into his airspace and beyond. How the
aircraft got from the departure point to the last fix outside the airspace
in question is just dropped.


>
> And what is the trailing "*" on "T74*"?
>

The meaning of * varies with it's position in the route. Placed after the
destination it means any preferential arrival route has been suppressed.

John Clonts
March 10th 04, 11:50 PM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
>
> "John Clonts" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > I subscribe to fboweb for flight tracking. I see routes described
> > like these examples:
> >
> > SAT.V163.LZZ..JEN.KNEAD5.GKY/1754
> > ABI.V77.SJT..JCT..STV..SAT/0245
> > RBD./.TPL..BAZ
> > F18./.JEN256001..SEP/2202
> > MFE./.CRP357001..CWK..T74*
> > BMQ..GRK150004..TPL/1756
> > ABI..3536/10059..PPA/1709
> > OKC./.ACT.V15.CLL.BLUBL1.7XS0/2251
> > SAT./.GRK347035..JEN.KNEAD5.ADS
> >
> > PNE./.MANTA.V139.HTO.V308.ORW.ORW011.GRAYM.GRAYM2.LWM
> > ILE./.ROCKK060034..LIT
> >
> > Questions:
> > 1) Is this exactly the format in which they exist on ATC computers
> > and/or flight progress strips;
> >
>
> This is exactly how they are input; one dot between unlike items
(route/fix)
> and two dots between like items (route/route or fix/fix). The dots don't
> print out on the strips.
>
>
> >
> > if so
> > 2) Mostly it's pretty self-explanatory. But is there a definitive
> > explanation of the format somewhere?
> >
>
> There is an explanation in the N4 flight data processing manual, haven't
> seen one in years.
>
>
> >
> > 3) I infer that "..: means "direct",
> >
>
> Two dots between fixes means direct between those fixes, two dots between
> routes means track the first route to intercept the second.
>
>
> >
> > and that the trailing "/2251" is an ETA.
> >
>
> Yes.
>
>
> >
> > But what is "./."? Radar Vectors?
> >
>
> No, it means the route was truncated. This is an active enroute strip,
the
> controller only cares about the route into his airspace and beyond. How
the
> aircraft got from the departure point to the last fix outside the airspace
> in question is just dropped.
>
>
> >
> > And what is the trailing "*" on "T74*"?
> >
>
> The meaning of * varies with it's position in the route. Placed after the
> destination it means any preferential arrival route has been suppressed.
>
>

Great, thanks!
John

Allan9
March 14th 04, 08:54 PM
Everything you ever wanted to know and then some

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/FSS/fss0603.html#tf4bp39fATCN
6-3-3. IFR FLIGHT PLAN CONTROL MESSAGES

Al

"John Clonts" > wrote in message
om...
> I subscribe to fboweb for flight tracking. I see routes described
> like these examples:
>
> SAT.V163.LZZ..JEN.KNEAD5.GKY/1754
> ABI.V77.SJT..JCT..STV..SAT/0245
> RBD./.TPL..BAZ
> F18./.JEN256001..SEP/2202
> MFE./.CRP357001..CWK..T74*
> BMQ..GRK150004..TPL/1756
> ABI..3536/10059..PPA/1709
> OKC./.ACT.V15.CLL.BLUBL1.7XS0/2251
> SAT./.GRK347035..JEN.KNEAD5.ADS
> PNE./.MANTA.V139.HTO.V308.ORW.ORW011.GRAYM.GRAYM2.LWM
> ILE./.ROCKK060034..LIT
>
> Questions:
> 1) Is this exactly the format in which they exist on ATC computers
> and/or flight progress strips;
> if so
> 2) Mostly it's pretty self-explanatory. But is there a definitive
> explanation of the format somewhere?
> 3) I infer that "..: means "direct", and that the trailing "/2251" is
> an ETA. But what is "./."? Radar Vectors? And what is the trailing
> "*" on "T74*"?
>
> Thanks,
> John Clonts
> Temple, Texas
> N7NZ

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