IFR en-route charts on line?

[Roy Smith]

Is there anyplace where I can find IFR en-route charts on line? I know
where to find SIAP's and sectionals, but I haven't seen en-routes
anywhere.

[Andrew Sarangan]

Roy Smith > wrote in news:roy-63E1CF.21044624042004
@reader2.panix.com:

> Is there anyplace where I can find IFR en-route charts on line? I know
> where to find SIAP's and sectionals, but I haven't seen en-routes
> anywhere.
>

aeroplanner has it. You can preview the chart for free, but to download
the whole chart you have to pay.

[Steve S]

Checkout fltplan.com.



Steve S


"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Is there anyplace where I can find IFR en-route charts on line? I know
> where to find SIAP's and sectionals, but I haven't seen en-routes
> anywhere.

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Steve S wrote:

> Checkout fltplan.com.
>

Those en route "charts" are not any good for in-flight use.

The Aeroplanner charts are true bitmaps of the current NACO en route charts.

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Roy Smith > wrote:
>Is there anyplace where I can find IFR en-route charts on line? I know
>where to find SIAP's and sectionals, but I haven't seen en-routes
>anywhere.

All of the information is available (not sure if it's online or if you
have to order the CDROM with it) but it's in a database format, not a
bitmap or vector graphic of the NOAA charts. I haven't seen the actual
NOAA stuff anywhere.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

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Ben Jackson wrote:

> In article >,
> Roy Smith > wrote:
> >Is there anyplace where I can find IFR en-route charts on line? I know
> >where to find SIAP's and sectionals, but I haven't seen en-routes
> >anywhere.
>
> All of the information is available (not sure if it's online or if you
> have to order the CDROM with it) but it's in a database format, not a
> bitmap or vector graphic of the NOAA charts. I haven't seen the actual
> NOAA stuff anywhere.

If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
MCAs, nor does it have holding patterns that are charted on the paper
charts.. The airway fix data in the DAI is information for avionic vendors
primarily.

If you know of such sources that include operational data it would be news
to me.

[Kyler Laird]

writes:

>If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
>does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
>MCAs,

http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Awy_rf.txt

>nor does it have holding patterns that are charted on the paper
>charts..

http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Hpf_rf.txt

What exactly is missing?

--kyler

[Ben Jackson]

In article >, > wrote:
>If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
>does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or

The data I'm thinking of does, since one thing I used it for was to search
for MAAs (they're very rare) because my instructor wanted to know what
charts would have one.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[[email protected]]

Kyler Laird wrote:

> writes:
>
> >If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
> >does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
> >MCAs,
>
> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Awy_rf.txt
>
> >nor does it have holding patterns that are charted on the paper
> >charts..
>
> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Hpf_rf.txt
>
> What exactly is missing?
>
> --kyler

What I said before. That file you provide would make no operational sense at all.

Do I hold that in my left hand and the file with the airway data in my right hand?

Where do I get the airway radials in magnetic and where do I get the appropriate
instrument altitudes?

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Ben Jackson wrote:

> In article >, > wrote:
> >If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
> >does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
>
> The data I'm thinking of does, since one thing I used it for was to search
> for MAAs (they're very rare) because my instructor wanted to know what
> charts would have one.
>
> --
> Ben Jackson
> >
> http://www.ben.com/

Can you share a copy of those data with us?

[Kyler Laird]

writes:

>> >If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
>> >does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
>> >MCAs,
>>
>> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Awy_rf.txt
>>
>> >nor does it have holding patterns that are charted on the paper
>> >charts..
>>
>> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Hpf_rf.txt
>>
>> What exactly is missing?
>>
>> --kyler

>What I said before. That file you provide would make no operational sense at all.

Ah...so you agree that the files do provide the data, you just don't
like the format of it?

>Do I hold that in my left hand and the file with the airway data in my right hand?

If you like.

>Where do I get the airway radials in magnetic and where do I get the appropriate
>instrument altitudes?

It's just a matter of writing something to interpret it. Unless you're
saying that there's actually something missing? If that's the case, an
example would be a big help.

--kyler

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Kyler Laird wrote:

> writes:
>
> >> >If you're speaking of the NACO Digital Aeronautical Information (DAI), it
> >> >does not provide either magnetic courses or any Part 95 MEAs, MOCAs, or
> >> >MCAs,
> >>
> >> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Awy_rf.txt
> >>
> >> >nor does it have holding patterns that are charted on the paper
> >> >charts..
> >>
> >> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Hpf_rf.txt
> >>
> >> What exactly is missing?
> >>
> >> --kyler
>
> >What I said before. That file you provide would make no operational sense at all.
>
> Ah...so you agree that the files do provide the data, you just don't
> like the format of it?
>
> >Do I hold that in my left hand and the file with the airway data in my right hand?
>
> If you like.
>
> >Where do I get the airway radials in magnetic and where do I get the appropriate
> >instrument altitudes?
>
> It's just a matter of writing something to interpret it. Unless you're
> saying that there's actually something missing? If that's the case, an
> example would be a big help.
>
> --kyler

I don't really know if something is missing unless I can see it in a chart format that
bears some resemblence to standard IFR en route charting specs.

I didn't find radial bearings, or IFR altitudes, then again I am not a computer that
reads ASCII at 20 billion operations per second.