'87D gets a makeover - 3

[Dan Luke]

The interior is finished. The work was done at Southern Avionics' new shop
at Mobile Downtown Airport.

http://tinyurl.com/gj5kt

It took 3-1/2 weeks and, according to their manager, went 90% over their
labor estimate. He is somewhat in shock about how long it took--it was
their first small airplane job. They absorbed a Mom-and-Pop operation from
Hattiesburg, MS and used "Pop's" estimating method, which apparently failed
to include "Pop's" considerable labor contributions to a typical job.

Todd says any future estimates will be much higher. Hell, I thought $7800
*was* high! I did get an estmate of $15,000 from Air Mod in Ohio, which I
thought was insane, but my guy in Mobile says his future quotes for an
airplane like mine will be more than $10,000, and he won't do everything Air
Mod does.

Overall, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. The makeover is now
complete, just in time for OSH.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[Jon Kraus]

It looks really nice Dan. You should be pleased... I agre with you and
$7800 seems like plenty. :-) After work like this is a new weight and
balance required? Just curious.

Jon Kraus


Dan Luke wrote:
> The interior is finished. The work was done at Southern Avionics' new shop
> at Mobile Downtown Airport.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/gj5kt
>
> It took 3-1/2 weeks and, according to their manager, went 90% over their
> labor estimate. He is somewhat in shock about how long it took--it was
> their first small airplane job. They absorbed a Mom-and-Pop operation from
> Hattiesburg, MS and used "Pop's" estimating method, which apparently failed
> to include "Pop's" considerable labor contributions to a typical job.
>
> Todd says any future estimates will be much higher. Hell, I thought $7800
> *was* high! I did get an estmate of $15,000 from Air Mod in Ohio, which I
> thought was insane, but my guy in Mobile says his future quotes for an
> airplane like mine will be more than $10,000, and he won't do everything Air
> Mod does.
>
> Overall, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. The makeover is now
> complete, just in time for OSH.
>

[Dan Luke]

"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
. ..
> It looks really nice Dan. You should be pleased... I agre with you and
> $7800 seems like plenty. :-) After work like this is a new weight and
> balance required? Just curious.

Not according to the shop.

[Peter R.]

Dan Luke > wrote:

> Overall, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. The makeover is now
> complete, just in time for OSH.

Very nice. Between the interior and the paint job, you have one sharp
aircraft, there. How much time on the engine?


--
Peter

[Dan Luke]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Dan Luke > wrote:
>
>> Overall, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. The makeover is now
>> complete, just in time for OSH.
>
> Very nice. Between the interior and the paint job, you have one sharp
> aircraft, there. How much time on the engine?

Thanks. About 650 SMOH.

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

Sharp!
3 Questions....
What is your OSH schedule?
Where will we be able to see it?
Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick your
brain about it?

Thanks
Jim


"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
> The interior is finished. The work was done at Southern Avionics' new
shop
> at Mobile Downtown Airport.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/gj5kt
>
> It took 3-1/2 weeks and, according to their manager, went 90% over their
> labor estimate. He is somewhat in shock about how long it took--it was
> their first small airplane job. They absorbed a Mom-and-Pop operation
from
> Hattiesburg, MS and used "Pop's" estimating method, which apparently
failed
> to include "Pop's" considerable labor contributions to a typical job.
>
> Todd says any future estimates will be much higher. Hell, I thought $7800
> *was* high! I did get an estmate of $15,000 from Air Mod in Ohio, which I
> thought was insane, but my guy in Mobile says his future quotes for an
> airplane like mine will be more than $10,000, and he won't do everything
Air
> Mod does.
>
> Overall, I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. The makeover is now
> complete, just in time for OSH.
>
> --
> Dan
> C172RG at BFM
>
>

[Dan Luke]

"Jim Burns" wrote:

> Sharp!

Thanks!

> 3 Questions....
> What is your OSH schedule?

Arriving Sunday, leaving Thursday

> Where will we be able to see it?

GA camping. North 40, I presume

> Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick your
> brain about it?

Planning on it.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

[Peter R.]

Dan Luke > wrote:

> Thanks. About 650 SMOH.

Here's to several more years of flying without a major mechanical,
avionics, or aesthetic expense. :)

--
Peter

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

Holy crap...what luck! I should have just bought a lottery ticket!

Ok, we'll see you and the 172RG there then!

Jim

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" wrote:
>
> > Sharp!
>
> Thanks!
>
> > 3 Questions....
> > What is your OSH schedule?
>
> Arriving Sunday, leaving Thursday
>
> > Where will we be able to see it?
>
> GA camping. North 40, I presume
>
> > Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
your
> > brain about it?
>
> Planning on it.
>
> --
> Dan
> C-172RG at BFM
>
>

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Dan Luke" wrote)
> Todd says any future estimates will be much higher. Hell, I thought $7800
> *was* high! I did get an estmate of $15,000 from Air Mod in Ohio, which I
> thought was insane, but my guy in Mobile says his future quotes for an
> airplane like mine will be more than $10,000, and he won't do everything
> Air Mod does.


How much of your bill was for labor vs. parts, tax, or (my favorite) "shop
supplies"?


Montblack

[Dan Luke]

"Montblack" wrote:

>> Todd says any future estimates will be much higher. Hell, I thought $7800
>> *was* high! I did get an estmate of $15,000 from Air Mod in Ohio, which I
>> thought was insane, but my guy in Mobile says his future quotes for an
>> airplane like mine will be more than $10,000, and he won't do everything
>> Air Mod does.
>
>
> How much of your bill was for labor vs. parts, tax, or (my favorite) "shop
> supplies"?

Haven't seen the final bill, yet. Since it was a firm quote, I don't know if
it will be itemized. I added a couple of extras after the job started.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Jim Burns" wrote)
> Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
> your brain about it?


For a guy who lives in the same county as the Ed Gein farm, you gotta stop
talking like that. It creeps people out. <g>

To be fair, pickling Dan's liver; that might just be possible. :-)


Montblack

[Dan Luke]

"Montblack" wrote:

> ("Jim Burns" wrote)
>> Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
>> your brain about it?
>
>
> For a guy who lives in the same county as the Ed Gein farm, you gotta stop
> talking like that. It creeps people out. <g>
>
> To be fair, pickling Dan's liver; that might just be possible. :-)

That's in the plan, too.

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

"I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti"

Liver? check. Thanks Dan.
Fava beans, Paul, you get those.
Chianti... hmm Margy said she's bringing wine.

So I think we're just about set!

Jim

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Montblack" wrote:
>
> > ("Jim Burns" wrote)
> >> Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
> >> your brain about it?
> >
> >
> > For a guy who lives in the same county as the Ed Gein farm, you gotta
stop
> > talking like that. It creeps people out. <g>
> >
> > To be fair, pickling Dan's liver; that might just be possible. :-)
>
> That's in the plan, too.
>
>

[Dan Luke]

"Jim Burns" wrote:

> "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti"
>
> Liver? check. Thanks Dan.
> Fava beans, Paul, you get those.
> Chianti... hmm Margy said she's bringing wine.
>
> So I think we're just about set!

So this is what you guys mean when you say "cook-out!"

I'm coming armed.

[john smith]

In article >,
"Montblack" > wrote:

> > Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
> > your brain about it?

> For a guy who lives in the same county as the Ed Gein farm, you gotta stop
> talking like that. It creeps people out. <g>

> To be fair, pickling Dan's liver; that might just be possible. :-)

Is that before, after or while Viperdoc conducts the Allison surgery?

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

Oh you guys just keep setting me up...
armed huh?
nah... can't do it. :)
Jim

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" wrote:
>
> > "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti"
> >
> > Liver? check. Thanks Dan.
> > Fava beans, Paul, you get those.
> > Chianti... hmm Margy said she's bringing wine.
> >
> > So I think we're just about set!
>
> So this is what you guys mean when you say "cook-out!"
>
> I'm coming armed.
>
>

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

Hey, once you get a surgeon in your midst, you best be making good use of
him! :)
Jim

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Montblack" > wrote:
>
> > > Can you make the Rec.aviation.* party Wednesday evening so we can pick
> > > your brain about it?
>
> > For a guy who lives in the same county as the Ed Gein farm, you gotta
stop
> > talking like that. It creeps people out. <g>
>
> > To be fair, pickling Dan's liver; that might just be possible. :-)
>
> Is that before, after or while Viperdoc conducts the Allison surgery?

[Jack Allison[_1_]]

john smith wrote:

> Is that before, after or while Viperdoc conducts the Allison surgery?
I repeat, the toe is fine...absolutely fine. No poking/prodding/surgery
of any kind required. MontBlack is the one that can take advantage of
Viperdoc's talents (and maybe get hooked up with some more vocodin). :-)

Did I mention that the toe is fine? I'll be in sandals to prove it.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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[Jack Allison[_1_]]

Looks sharp Dan. Too bad about the cost overrun...yikes, 90% over?
Ouch. Looking forward to seeing the work in person at OSH. We'll be
arriving with the Honecks Sunday morning.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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[Dan Luke]

"Jack Allison" wrote:

> Looks sharp Dan.

Thanks!

> Too bad about the cost overrun...yikes, 90% over?

Too bad for the shop; they were working on a firm quote.

> Ouch. Looking forward to seeing the work in person at OSH. We'll be
> arriving with the Honecks Sunday morning.

See you there.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[john smith]

In article >,
Jack Allison > wrote:

> > Is that before, after or while Viperdoc conducts the Allison surgery?

> I repeat, the toe is fine...absolutely fine. No poking/prodding/surgery
> of any kind required. MontBlack is the one that can take advantage of
> Viperdoc's talents (and maybe get hooked up with some more vocodin). :-)
> Did I mention that the toe is fine? I'll be in sandals to prove it.

Are you a trained medical professional?
No, I didn't think so.
The most common phrase doctors hear for their patients is, "I feel fine."
I think we should let Viperdoc have a look at and make a professional
assessment.
Then, after a couple of beers, we will have him assess it again.
This should be repeated as necessary until he gives consistant decrees.

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

Finally! Some rational thinking! :)
Jim

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Jack Allison > wrote:
>
> > > Is that before, after or while Viperdoc conducts the Allison surgery?
>
> > I repeat, the toe is fine...absolutely fine. No poking/prodding/surgery
> > of any kind required. MontBlack is the one that can take advantage of
> > Viperdoc's talents (and maybe get hooked up with some more vocodin).
:-)
> > Did I mention that the toe is fine? I'll be in sandals to prove it.
>
> Are you a trained medical professional?
> No, I didn't think so.
> The most common phrase doctors hear for their patients is, "I feel fine."
> I think we should let Viperdoc have a look at and make a professional
> assessment.
> Then, after a couple of beers, we will have him assess it again.
> This should be repeated as necessary until he gives consistant decrees.

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Jim Burns" wrote)
> Finally! Some rational thinking! :)


He wouldn't do much laughing on the return flight, but wouldn't it be a
pretty good story for next year's N40BBQ if Jack was the one to get the
hernia repair?

Come to think of it, walking around Thursday and Friday would be plenty
tough on the old boy, too. What with the fresh stitches (rivets - whatever)
....and that bad toe.


Montblack

[john smith]

In article >,
"Montblack" > wrote:

> Come to think of it, walking around Thursday and Friday would be plenty
> tough on the old boy, too. What with the fresh stitches (rivets - whatever)
> ...and that bad toe.

Speaking of which... I still haven't seen an Aero Mart surgical supply
shopping list?
Possible items...
tin snips (scissors)
rib stitching cord (for suturing)
rib stitching needles (for suturing)
safety wire (for really stubborn suturing)
safety wire pliers (for really stubborn suturing)
pop rivets (assorted sizes and metals)
pop rivet gun
aluminum sheeting (assorted gages, strengths)
clecos (assorted sizes)
cleco pliers
vice grip pliers (clamps)

[Jack Allison[_1_]]

Dan Luke wrote:
Too bad about the cost overrun...yikes, 90% over?
>
>
> Too bad for the shop; they were working on a firm quote.
Ah...I see. You seemed rather calm for a BIG cost overrun. They live
and learn, you don't have to pay extra...that's the way it should be.



--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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[Jack Allison[_1_]]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Jim Burns" wrote)
>
>> Finally! Some rational thinking! :)
And Jim promised to quit all this silliness...somewhere in the OP.
Wasn't this post about Dan's new interior?

> Come to think of it, walking around Thursday and Friday would be plenty
> tough on the old boy, too. What with the fresh stitches (rivets -
^^^^^^^^^^^
Now there are a few words I don't hear strung together in reference to me.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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