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Matt Whiting
June 30th 04, 12:25 AM
Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
find the nearest aiports to that city.

A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
use to locate the nearest Shell station...

Matt

vincent p. norris
June 30th 04, 01:51 AM
> I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>find the nearest aiports to that city.

Matt, why not just look at a sectional chart?

vince norris

Michael 182
June 30th 04, 02:01 AM
http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
>
> Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
> nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
> find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
> A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
> use to locate the nearest Shell station...
>
> Matt
>

Kyler Laird
June 30th 04, 04:25 AM
>> Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
>> nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>> find the nearest aiports to that city.

>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

That doesn't quite qualify as "offline". The pieces are all there though.

locations for cities
http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/Census/TIGER_2000/places2k.txt
airports
http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/Subscriber_File_Formats/Apt_rf.txt
http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/APT.txt?format=del

module for using the FAA ATA-100 data
http://aviationtoolbox.org/munge/FAA_ATA100.py
examples
http://aviationtoolbox.org/munge/FAA_ATA100_examples/

And here's some code for calculating distances.
http://aviationtoolbox.org/munge/calculate_distance.py

Is there interest in a standalone script that rolls all of this together?

--kyler

C J Campbell
June 30th 04, 06:46 AM
http://www.city-data.com/

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
>
> Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
> nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
> find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
> A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
> use to locate the nearest Shell station...
>
> Matt
>

Kyler Laird
June 30th 04, 02:06 PM
Kyler Laird > writes:

>>> Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
>>> nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>>> find the nearest aiports to that city.

>>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

>That doesn't quite qualify as "offline".

I might have been missing something obvious to everyone else here. Did
"offline" mean "not using the GPS" and not "not using the 'net"?

--kyler

Peter R.
June 30th 04, 02:27 PM
vincent p. norris ) wrote:

> > I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
> >find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
> Matt, why not just look at a sectional chart?

Perhaps he is interested in a potential destination city for which he does
not yet have a sectional.

The average pilot does not have sectionals for an entire country, wouldn't
you agree?


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Tom Sixkiller
June 30th 04, 04:13 PM
"Michael 182" > wrote in message
news:khoEc.1541$Oq2.134@attbi_s52...
> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

Which links to Airnav.com since, as Kyler says "AOPA has taken steps to
ensure that their airport information isn't easily accessed (even by
members), so now I only provide links to AirNav information.".


>
> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
> > nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
> > find the nearest aiports to that city.
> >
> > A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
> > use to locate the nearest Shell station...
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
>

Tom Sixkiller
June 30th 04, 04:14 PM
"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.city-data.com/

How does that help you find "nearest airport"?

>
> "Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
> > nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
> > find the nearest aiports to that city.
> >
> > A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
> > use to locate the nearest Shell station...
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
>

Kyler Laird
June 30th 04, 08:08 PM
"Tom Sixkiller" > writes:

>> http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

>Which links to Airnav.com since, as Kyler says "AOPA has taken steps to
>ensure that their airport information isn't easily accessed (even by
>members), so now I only provide links to AirNav information.".

Does that somehow affect this situation?

--kyler

Kyler Laird
June 30th 04, 08:08 PM
"Tom Sixkiller" > writes:

>> http://www.city-data.com/

>How does that help you find "nearest airport"?

http://www.city-data.com/city/Lafayette-Indiana.html

Airports certified for carrier operations nearest to Lafayette:

* PURDUE UNIVERSITY (about 5 miles; LAFAYETTE, IN; ID: LAF)
* GRISSOM ARB (about 53 miles; PERU, IN; ID: GUS)
* INDIANAPOLIS INTL (about 63 miles; INDIANAPOLIS, IN; ID: IND)

Other public-use airports nearest to Lafayette:

* DELPHI MUNI (about 17 miles; DELPHI, IN; ID: 1I9)
* WHITE COUNTY (about 22 miles; MONTICELLO, IN; ID: MCX)
* FRANKFORT MUNI (about 25 miles; FRANKFORT, IN; ID: FKR)

--kyler

Matt Whiting
June 30th 04, 11:28 PM
vincent p. norris wrote:

>>I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>>find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
>
> Matt, why not just look at a sectional chart?
>
> vince norris

Are they available online? I live in PA and don't have charts for Iowa
and Illinois.

Matt

Matt Whiting
June 30th 04, 11:33 PM
Kyler Laird wrote:
> Kyler Laird > writes:
>
>
>>>>Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
>>>>nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>>>>find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
>
>>>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports
>
>
>>That doesn't quite qualify as "offline".
>
>
> I might have been missing something obvious to everyone else here. Did
> "offline" mean "not using the GPS" and not "not using the 'net"?
>
> --kyler

Just the former. I really didn't want to have to fly to Port Byron, IL
from PA in order to find the closest airport in order to plan a flight
to Port Byron! :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting
June 30th 04, 11:34 PM
Tom Sixkiller wrote:

> "Michael 182" > wrote in message
> news:khoEc.1541$Oq2.134@attbi_s52...
>
>>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports
>
>
> Which links to Airnav.com since, as Kyler says "AOPA has taken steps to
> ensure that their airport information isn't easily accessed (even by
> members), so now I only provide links to AirNav information.".

I don't know what AOPA has, but the airnav site is excellent, even
including photographs of the airports. I was impressed.


Matt

Matt Whiting
June 30th 04, 11:35 PM
Kyler Laird wrote:

>>>Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
>>>nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>>>find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
>
>>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports
>
>
> That doesn't quite qualify as "offline". The pieces are all there though.

I meant "offline" as not needing to take my GPS near the city for which
I wanted to find the nearest aiport, so it was just fine. The site Paul
posted is superb.

Matt

'Vejita' S. Cousin
June 30th 04, 11:55 PM
In article >,
>Does anyone know if a site that provides an "offline" version of the GPS
>nearest airport function? I'd like to be able to enter a given city and
>find the nearest aiports to that city.
>
>A quick net search didn't turn up anything. Well, I did find a site to
>use to locate the nearest Shell station...

http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports

Not sure what you mean by 'offline.' If you mean not internet based
than why do you ask for a 'site' that provides the info? Most handheld
GPS systems (which are offline) have nearest airport if you enter a
starting lat/long.
But the above site is what works best for me. Airport info linked to
airnav and driving directions are provided.

vincent p. norris
July 1st 04, 05:33 AM
>> Matt, why not just look at a sectional chart?
>>
>Are they available online?

Don't know, Matt. But if you live near a "Depository Library," it
will have a set of sectionals.

(That's a library where the US government deposits whatever it
publishes. They are found at most state universities and perhaps big
city libraries.)

Some will even let you check out charts to use on your flights.

You may be able to glom onto obsolete sectionals at a nearby airport.
They're fine for planning purposes.

I live in PA and don't have charts for Iowa and Illinois.

But you'll need to get them if you want to fly out there; won't you?

If you can't find them at your local airport, you can buy them from
various mail-order sources.

It also just occurredto me that theAOPA Airport Directory includes
information for each airport such as 'five miles SW of town."

vince norris

Tom Sixkiller
July 1st 04, 05:21 PM
"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> Tom Sixkiller wrote:
>
> > "Michael 182" > wrote in message
> > news:khoEc.1541$Oq2.134@attbi_s52...
> >
> >>http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/nearby_airports
> >
> >
> > Which links to Airnav.com since, as Kyler says "AOPA has taken steps to
> > ensure that their airport information isn't easily accessed (even by
> > members), so now I only provide links to AirNav information.".
>
> I don't know what AOPA has, but the airnav site is excellent, even
> including photographs of the airports. I was impressed.
>
>
It really IS impressive.

Try the "Fuel Stop Planner" function that lists the best fueling spots along
your route.

http://www.airnav.com/plan/fuel/

Matt Whiting
July 1st 04, 10:27 PM
vincent p. norris wrote:

>>>Matt, why not just look at a sectional chart?
>>>
>>
>>Are they available online?
>
>
> Don't know, Matt. But if you live near a "Depository Library," it
> will have a set of sectionals.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any depository libraries. Look up
Lawrenceville, PA in Yahoo and you'll see my problem. :-)


> (That's a library where the US government deposits whatever it
> publishes. They are found at most state universities and perhaps big
> city libraries.)
>
> Some will even let you check out charts to use on your flights.
>
> You may be able to glom onto obsolete sectionals at a nearby airport.
> They're fine for planning purposes.
>
> I live in PA and don't have charts for Iowa and Illinois.
>
> But you'll need to get them if you want to fly out there; won't you?

I'll need IFR charts and may buy sectionals for backup. I always file
IFR anymore as it is just easier with all of the airspace complications.
The trip is speculative at this point, so I didn't want to buy charts
that I might never use to find something I was sure had to be available
on the web.

I don't know why my search didn't find the airnav site, but it is a
great site.


Matt

vincent p. norris
July 2nd 04, 03:31 AM
>Unfortunately, I don't know of any depository libraries. Look up
>Lawrenceville, PA in Yahoo and you'll see my problem. :-)

I live in PA too, but I have sectionals for the midwest. Email me
with what it is you want to know, and I'll try to help you.

vince norris

Matt Whiting
July 2nd 04, 04:07 AM
vincent p. norris wrote:
>>Unfortunately, I don't know of any depository libraries. Look up
>>Lawrenceville, PA in Yahoo and you'll see my problem. :-)
>
>
> I live in PA too, but I have sectionals for the midwest. Email me
> with what it is you want to know, and I'll try to help you.
>
> vince norris

I appreciate the offer, but airnav had just what I needed. I was
looking for smaller airports near Port Byron, IL, to see if anything was
closer than Quad City.

Thanks,
Matt

Tom Sixkiller
July 2nd 04, 04:34 AM
"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
> vincent p. norris wrote:
> >
> > But you'll need to get them if you want to fly out there; won't you?
>
> I'll need IFR charts and may buy sectionals for backup. I always file
> IFR anymore as it is just easier with all of the airspace complications.
> The trip is speculative at this point, so I didn't want to buy charts
> that I might never use to find something I was sure had to be available
> on the web.

Try using WAC charts for IFR cross-reference. Also, the VFR Terminal Area
charts.

Dave Butler
July 2nd 04, 03:21 PM
Matt Whiting wrote:

>
> I don't know why my search didn't find the airnav site, but it is a
> great site.

Agreed. I forget everyone doesn't know about airnav. It should be part of the
Private Pilot curriculum. :-)

Just for the record, it's http://www.airnav.com

Also, Matt, you can get snippets of sectionals online, and I don't think anyone
has mentioned the possibility previously in this thread. If you're an EAA
member, you have access to http://www.aeroplanner.com. If not, there's a fee for
access, you might find it is worth it. As an alternative to paying the
aeroplanner fee, you can join EAA and get access as a member benefit.

There's another place for sectionals online, I think (from memory) it's
http://www.myairplane.com.

The people who run aeroplanner.com and myairplane.com hang out at
rec.aviation.owning sometimes, as does Paulo Sanchez(?) who runs airnav.com.

Dave

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