CBAV - anyone having problems displaying Nexrad?

[Maule Driver]

The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to get
Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.

Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?

[John Clonts]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.com...
> The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to get
> Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
>
> Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
>
>

Yes. Its been that way for weeks :(

[Teacherjh]

I"ve had that problem for months (but the word I get is [image]) and no word
from CBAV either here or in Email.

Jose


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(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Maule Driver]

That's what I get too. My mistake.

Too bad because 'tis the season...

"Teacherjh" > wrote in message
...
> I"ve had that problem for months (but the word I get is [image]) and no
word
> from CBAV either here or in Email.
>
> Jose
>
>
> --
> (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[AaronK]

I fly airplanes off and on as a hobby, I use http://www.weathertap.com/ for
Nexrad images and other. I use a cell phone plugged into my WindowsCE
pocket PC with a cheap cable (Verizon). I know it's not the palm format,
but just thought others might be interested. It's about 75 bucks a year,
but it's color and there is a special palm site so all the maps are scaled
down for quick loading. Verizon has a free number you call to get the
internet connection. It's pretty slow, but you don't need a modem in your
pocketPC and the Verizon service is free.

No relation to weathertap. ... Aaron

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.com...
> The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to get
> Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
>
> Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
>
>

[Javier Henderson]

"Maule Driver" > writes:

> The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to get
> Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
>
> Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?

Yes, there is, and it's being worked on. I'll post here when it's fixed.

-jav

[Maule Driver]

Thanks for the response and the effort.

"Javier Henderson" > wrote in message
...
> "Maule Driver" > writes:
>
> > The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to
get
> > Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
> >
> > Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
>
> Yes, there is, and it's being worked on. I'll post here when it's fixed.
>
> -jav

[OtisWinslow]

I also am a weathertap subscriber and like it. I use it on the ground though
over the Internet. Aren't there going to be legal issues with using it with
a cell phone in the air?


"AaronK" > wrote in message
...
> I fly airplanes off and on as a hobby, I use http://www.weathertap.com/
for
> Nexrad images and other. I use a cell phone plugged into my WindowsCE
> pocket PC with a cheap cable (Verizon). I know it's not the palm format,
> but just thought others might be interested. It's about 75 bucks a year,
> but it's color and there is a special palm site so all the maps are scaled
> down for quick loading. Verizon has a free number you call to get the
> internet connection. It's pretty slow, but you don't need a modem in your
> pocketPC and the Verizon service is free.
>
> No relation to weathertap. ... Aaron
>
> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to
get
> > Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
> >
> > Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
> >
> >
>
>

[Maule Driver]

Do you use it in the air? If so, how is reception?

I have very little luck making call on my Sprint PCS phone in the air.

"AaronK"
> I fly airplanes off and on as a hobby, I use http://www.weathertap.com/
for
> Nexrad images and other. I use a cell phone plugged into my WindowsCE
> pocket PC with a cheap cable (Verizon). I know it's not the palm format,
> but just thought others might be interested. It's about 75 bucks a year,
> but it's color and there is a special palm site so all the maps are scaled
> down for quick loading. Verizon has a free number you call to get the
> internet connection. It's pretty slow, but you don't need a modem in your
> pocketPC and the Verizon service is free.
>

[Maule Driver]

This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
Google for background.

"OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
...
> I also am a weathertap subscriber and like it. I use it on the ground
though
> over the Internet. Aren't there going to be legal issues with using it
with
> a cell phone in the air?
>

[Dave Butler]

I wonder about Nextel's wireless broadband. "Stay connected at blazing speeds at
home, in the car, or anywhere you go in the Nextel network."
http://www.nextelbroadband.com/

Maule Driver wrote:
> This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
> Google for background.
>
> "OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I also am a weathertap subscriber and like it. I use it on the ground
>
> though
>
>>over the Internet. Aren't there going to be legal issues with using it
>
> with
>
>>a cell phone in the air?

[PaulH]

Mine's been down for a month. I emailed them and got only an note
that they were having "server problems" - no indication of how long.
A real nuisance this time of year.

TAFs and METARs were down too a while back but seem to be OK now.

[Maule Driver]

Free software is a bit of a problem when there is a problem - but the price
is right.

I've experienced the great benefits of having CBAV on board many times.
This past weekend I experienced significantly reduced capability without it.

Coming back from Ocracoke, it slowly became apparent that RDU was being hit
by thunderbumpers. The airport appeared to close for awhile and according
to the controller "we'll be back in a few minutes with a plan".

The airport started taking approaches again but tstorms were still obscuring
the area. I tried high, I tried low but everytime I tried to go to home at
8nc8 or RDU, I found my way "blocked" either by IMC or VMC with lightening
and rain.

I continued to drive the controller crazy with a series of requests but I
refused to ask for a clearance because I had no intent of going into IMC.

I am convinced I could have circumnavigated the area and landed home or at
RDU with CBAV. If I could have seen what was on the other side and some
sense of how it was growing or moving, a plan could have been developed.
Without it, I had to land at 5W5. And with no Nexrad available there, it
was time to punt. The FBO was closed but the airport owner was kind enough
to drive us home to return the next day. Thanks Paul!!

Long Live CBAV!!!

"PaulH" > wrote in message
om...
> Mine's been down for a month. I emailed them and got only an note
> that they were having "server problems" - no indication of how long.
> A real nuisance this time of year.
>
> TAFs and METARs were down too a while back but seem to be OK now.

[OtisWinslow]

My question was not one of ARE there legal issues . .it's not allowable
by FCC rules .. but rather are users just ignoring them and using the
cell phone for weather anyway.


"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.com...
> This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
> Google for background.
>
> "OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I also am a weathertap subscriber and like it. I use it on the ground
> though
> > over the Internet. Aren't there going to be legal issues with using it
> with
> > a cell phone in the air?
> >
>
>

[Dave Butler]

OtisWinslow wrote:
> My question was not one of ARE there legal issues . .it's not allowable
> by FCC rules .. but rather are users just ignoring them and using the
> cell phone for weather anyway.

This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
Google for background (is there an echo in here?).

> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
> .com...
>
>>This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
>>Google for background.
>>
>>"OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>I also am a weathertap subscriber and like it. I use it on the ground
>>
>>though
>>
>>>over the Internet. Aren't there going to be legal issues with using it
>>
>>with
>>
>>>a cell phone in the air?

[AaronK]

I don't use it in the air because it doesn't seem to work. I've only tried
it once, fairly low altitude maybe 3000 agl. It was over an area I know has
reception on the ground. I had a Sprint phone before that, same problem
with reception. But our club now has a few new Cessna's with uplink Nexrad!
.... Aaron


"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.com...
> Do you use it in the air? If so, how is reception?
>
> I have very little luck making call on my Sprint PCS phone in the air.
>
> "AaronK"
> > I fly airplanes off and on as a hobby, I use http://www.weathertap.com/
> for
> > Nexrad images and other. I use a cell phone plugged into my WindowsCE
> > pocket PC with a cheap cable (Verizon). I know it's not the palm
format,
> > but just thought others might be interested. It's about 75 bucks a
year,
> > but it's color and there is a special palm site so all the maps are
scaled
> > down for quick loading. Verizon has a free number you call to get the
> > internet connection. It's pretty slow, but you don't need a modem in
your
> > pocketPC and the Verizon service is free.
> >
>
>

[Snowbird]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message >...
> The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to get
> Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.

> Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?

Yes, exactly what I got (Palm VIIx, St. Louis, WI, and points in
between, in air and on ground)

What's up?

Sydney

[Maule Driver]

Read above

"Snowbird" > wrote in message
m...
> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
>...
> > The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to
get
> > Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
>
> > Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
>
> Yes, exactly what I got (Palm VIIx, St. Louis, WI, and points in
> between, in air and on ground)
>
> What's up?
>
> Sydney

[Snowbird]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message >...
> Read above

Um, no offense, 'Maule', but if I saw something in the thread
which already explained the problem/solution, I wouldn't have
posted, so the instruction to "read above" isn't too informative
to me.

I read on google.groups these days. Some people set their
headers so their posts aren't archived. Other posts simply don't
show up due to uneven newsfeed propegation.

So if you don't mind, what's the 'skinny'?

> "Snowbird" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > The last 2 times (yesterday and 1 week ago) I've tried to used CBAV to
> get
> > > Nexrad images, I get a blank screeen with the word "display" on it.
>
> > > Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
> >
> > Yes, exactly what I got (Palm VIIx, St. Louis, WI, and points in
> > between, in air and on ground)
> >
> > What's up?
> >
> > Sydney

[Dave Butler]

Snowbird wrote:

> I read on google.groups these days. Some people set their
> headers so their posts aren't archived. Other posts simply don't
> show up due to uneven newsfeed propegation.
>
> So if you don't mind, what's the 'skinny'?

Jav Henderson posted that the system is down and the problem is being worked. Do
not adjust your set. DGB

[Teacherjh]

>>
Jav Henderson posted that the system is down and the problem is being worked.
<<

I wish Jav Henderson would put that on the CBAV website. That's where I go to
look to see if there are problems with the service.

Jose


--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Dave Butler]

Teacherjh wrote:
> Jav Henderson posted that the system is down and the problem is being worked.
> <<
>
> I wish Jav Henderson would put that on the CBAV website. That's where I go to
> look to see if there are problems with the service.

Not sure, but i don't think he has control over what's on the CBAV web site. Not
sure, but I think he volunteers his time to help out. IOW, if you'd like to help
out, your assistance would probably be welcomed, too. You could, for example,
volunteer to keep the status updated on the web site.

DGB

[Teacherjh]

>> Not sure, but i don't think he has control over what's on the CBAV web site.

I assumed (I have a lot of donkeys by now!) he was the honcho in charge of
CBAV.

Jose

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(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Ryan Ferguson]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message >...

> Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?

Yes, the service has become more spotty recently. I have made the
switch to TurboWX. I wrote about this software and the Palm.net
service in a recent issue of Aviation Safety. I have no affiliation
with the company but the product is awesome, and by the way the NEXRAD
updates are typically 5-8 minutes old instead of CBAV's 25-30. You
can try a free trial at http://www.turbowx.com.

-Ryan

[Maule Driver]

OK Ryan.

In my experience, the service has not been 'more spotty recently'. The
Nexrad images simply stopped displaying. Otherwise the service has been
working as before.

Love to read all or some part of your review but I don't intend to subscribe
to AS. Do you care to share?

I'm sure TurboWX may be 'awesome' but it lacks the key feature that CBAV
delivers, i.e. inflight NEXRAD. There are occassions when a
just-before-T.O. NEXRAD image is very valuable. But the ability to look at
the weather inflight, at altitude, then compare it with a NEXRAD image while
in flight is (standby.... searching for superlative beyond 'awesome'......)
'paridigm shifting'. Even with the 15 - 30 min delay that I typically
experience.

Anyway, I'll probably check out the demo just to exercise my Treo a bit.

"Long Live CBAV"... at least until I can afford the high priced spread.

Bill Watson

"Ryan Ferguson" > wrote in message
om...
> "Maule Driver" > wrote in message
>...
>
> > Anyone have this problem recently? Is there a problem?
>
> Yes, the service has become more spotty recently. I have made the
> switch to TurboWX. I wrote about this software and the Palm.net
> service in a recent issue of Aviation Safety. I have no affiliation
> with the company but the product is awesome, and by the way the NEXRAD
> updates are typically 5-8 minutes old instead of CBAV's 25-30. You
> can try a free trial at http://www.turbowx.com.
>
> -Ryan

[Kyler Laird]

"OtisWinslow" > writes:

>> This has been covered in several threads in the past. You might try a
>> Google for background.

>My question was not one of ARE there legal issues . .it's not allowable
>by FCC rules ..

Do you want to clarify that or are you just trying to spread FUD?

--kyler

[Ryan Ferguson]

> In my experience, the service has not been 'more spotty recently'. The
> Nexrad images simply stopped displaying. Otherwise the service has been
> working as before.

I just tried it and got same. To be honest I haven't used CBAV for
more than a year now, since switching to TurboWX.

> I'm sure TurboWX may be 'awesome' but it lacks the key feature that
CBAV
> delivers, i.e. inflight NEXRAD.

Hmm? It delivers better quality, younger NEXRAD images than CBAV.
In-flight, if you're using Palm.net.

> There are occassions when a
> just-before-T.O. NEXRAD image is very valuable. But the ability to look at
> the weather inflight, at altitude, then compare it with a NEXRAD image while
> in flight is (standby.... searching for superlative beyond 'awesome'......)
> 'paridigm shifting'. Even with the 15 - 30 min delay that I typically
> experience.

Well, say goodbye to the 30 minute delay and get ready for less than
10 with TurboWX.

-Ryan

[Maule Driver]

"Ryan Ferguson" >
> > I'm sure TurboWX may be 'awesome' but it lacks the key feature that
> CBAV
> > delivers, i.e. inflight NEXRAD.
>
> Hmm? It delivers better quality, younger NEXRAD images than CBAV.
> In-flight, if you're using Palm.net.
>
So you are saying my Palm VII using Palmnet can get the TurboWX service? I
swear I read the site and did not see that it did. Will recheck.

Thanks.

Got to say that the 15 to 30 to 45 min delay on CBAV has been less of an
issue (as in 'no issue') than I ever thought it would be. I don't know if
its true but it seems that the image tends towards 15 minutes old when there
is activity. And goes over 30mins when it is calm.

Better resolution would be very welcome though.

[John Clonts]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.com...
>
> "Ryan Ferguson" >
> > > I'm sure TurboWX may be 'awesome' but it lacks the key feature that
> > CBAV
> > > delivers, i.e. inflight NEXRAD.
> >
> > Hmm? It delivers better quality, younger NEXRAD images than CBAV.
> > In-flight, if you're using Palm.net.
> >
> So you are saying my Palm VII using Palmnet can get the TurboWX service?
I
> swear I read the site and did not see that it did. Will recheck.
>

That's correct. When I was subscribing last year, I was using it getting
the Nexrad with my Palm VII. There was one issue with the rendering that I
corresponded with TurboWX about, and they were quite responsive. I ended up
cancelling eventually, because CBAV was sufficient and I believe has a
slightly better rendering in B&W. But I may reconsider if CBAV stays down
much longer.

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

[Ryan Ferguson]

Maule Driver wrote:

> So you are saying my Palm VII using Palmnet can get the TurboWX service? I
> swear I read the site and did not see that it did. Will recheck.

Yes.

> Got to say that the 15 to 30 to 45 min delay on CBAV has been less of an
> issue (as in 'no issue') than I ever thought it would be. I don't know if
> its true but it seems that the image tends towards 15 minutes old when there
> is activity. And goes over 30mins when it is calm.

It generally wasn't an issue for me either, but there have been times
when TurboWx's much younger weather updates allowed me to find a hole.

> Better resolution would be very welcome though.

TurboWX has better resolution and you don't have to cycle through Mode
1-6 like you would with CBAV.

-Ryan