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Jim Burns[_1_]
September 1st 06, 04:28 PM
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual. They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

Allen[_1_]
September 1st 06, 04:51 PM
"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
> DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had
> a
> Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
> Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
> fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
> copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
> comfortable.
>
> Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
> They
> do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
> I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
> into
> an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
> grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

Jim Burns[_1_]
September 1st 06, 04:52 PM
Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
Jim

"Allen" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
Shadin's
> > DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
had
> > a
> > Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
> >
> > My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> > meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
our
> > Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
> > fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
> > copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
> > comfortable.
> >
> > Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
> > They
> > do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
> > I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
> > into
> > an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd
be
> > grateful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
>
> I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.
>
> Allen
>
>

Allen[_1_]
September 1st 06, 04:58 PM
Did that, it will be a .pdf

Allen

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
> Jim
>
> "Allen" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
> Shadin's
>> > DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
> had
>> > a
>> > Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>> >
>> > My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
>> > meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
> our
>> > Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
>> > original
>> > fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
>> > copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
>> > comfortable.
>> >
>> > Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
>> > They
>> > do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
>> > unit.
>> > I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
>> > into
>> > an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd
> be
>> > grateful.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jim
>>
>> I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.
>>
>> Allen
>>
>>
>
>

Michelle P
September 1st 06, 05:07 PM
Jim Burns wrote:
> I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
> DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had a
> Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
> Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
> fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
> copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially comfortable.
>
> Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual. They
> do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
> I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project into
> an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
> grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
Jim,
I have one in my planes. It is a relatively simple install. Talks to my
GPS and tells me when I am going to run out of fuel....

Michelle

Jim Burns[_1_]
September 1st 06, 05:16 PM
Thanks Allen,
I got it.
I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
manual.
Jim

"Allen" > wrote in message
...
> Did that, it will be a .pdf
>
> Allen
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
> > Jim
> >
> > "Allen" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
> > Shadin's
> >> > DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
> > had
> >> > a
> >> > Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
> >> >
> >> > My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> >> > meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
> > our
> >> > Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
> >> > original
> >> > fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year
old
> >> > copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
> >> > comfortable.
> >> >
> >> > Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
> >> > They
> >> > do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
> >> > unit.
> >> > I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this
project
> >> > into
> >> > an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual,
I'd
> > be
> >> > grateful.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Jim
> >>
> >> I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.
> >>
> >> Allen
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Allen[_1_]
September 1st 06, 06:03 PM
I'll look for that.

Allen

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Allen,
> I got it.
> I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
> manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
> manual.
> Jim
>
> "Allen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Did that, it will be a .pdf
>>
>> Allen
>>
>> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get
>> > here.
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > "Allen" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
>> > Shadin's
>> >> > DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that
>> >> > have
>> > had
>> >> > a
>> >> > Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>> >> >
>> >> > My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
>> >> > meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement
>> >> > of
>> > our
>> >> > Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
>> >> > original
>> >> > fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year
> old
>> >> > copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
>> >> > comfortable.
>> >> >
>> >> > Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install
>> >> > manual.
>> >> > They
>> >> > do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
>> >> > unit.
>> >> > I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this
> project
>> >> > into
>> >> > an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual,
> I'd
>> > be
>> >> > grateful.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Jim
>> >>
>> >> I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.
>> >>
>> >> Allen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

September 1st 06, 08:27 PM
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:16:14 -0500, "Jim Burns"
> wrote:

>Thanks Allen,
>I got it.
>I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
>manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
>manual.
>Jim

On a Lycoming, (and some TCM"S) it's usually not a real big deal to
install the transducers.

Typically, you replace one flex line with two shorter ones with the
transducer and a couple of AN fittings that equal the same length as
the old line.

Have mounted them semi-rigid to an engine mount, and have left them
hanging in space with the adel clamps or koroseal securing the fuel
lines securing the whole mess.

The "hardest" part of the job is running the wires from the transducer
to the gage. Don't remember anymore how many conductors there are, but
we always used a multi-conductor shielded wire run with the shielding
terminated to ground at one end only.

Is probably not a bid deal on an Aztruck, but some installs tend to
pick up interference from other systems (an external ignition
vibrator/exciter is a baddie) that mucks with your flow
numbers/totalizer features.

TC

Jim Burns[_1_]
September 1st 06, 08:59 PM
Thanks TC,
I've read about the interference issues and will keep that in mind. Looks
like 3 wires from the transducer to the indicator... 1 signal wire, 1 power
wire, 1 ground, wristlocked and sleeved at the transducer.

Running the wires from the firewall through the nacelle and wing won't be a
problem as I became vary familiar with that routing last month when we
installed copper starter/battery cables.

I haven't found any mounting or plumbing instructions for the transducers,
so your info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Jim

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:16:14 -0500, "Jim Burns"
> > wrote:
>
> >Thanks Allen,
> >I got it.
> >I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer
install
> >manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
> >manual.
> >Jim
>
> On a Lycoming, (and some TCM"S) it's usually not a real big deal to
> install the transducers.
>
> Typically, you replace one flex line with two shorter ones with the
> transducer and a couple of AN fittings that equal the same length as
> the old line.
>
> Have mounted them semi-rigid to an engine mount, and have left them
> hanging in space with the adel clamps or koroseal securing the fuel
> lines securing the whole mess.
>
> The "hardest" part of the job is running the wires from the transducer
> to the gage. Don't remember anymore how many conductors there are, but
> we always used a multi-conductor shielded wire run with the shielding
> terminated to ground at one end only.
>
> Is probably not a bid deal on an Aztruck, but some installs tend to
> pick up interference from other systems (an external ignition
> vibrator/exciter is a baddie) that mucks with your flow
> numbers/totalizer features.
>
> TC

Stan Prevost[_1_]
September 2nd 06, 12:49 AM
I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a decrease
in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1 to 1.0 gph.
We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the transducer and
fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.

I always thought it was weird.

Stan



"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
> I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
> DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had
> a
> Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
> Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
> fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
> copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
> comfortable.
>
> Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
> They
> do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
> I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
> into
> an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
> grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>

September 2nd 06, 01:19 AM
Funny you should mention that,,, Mine does the exact same thing, but
it only happens at low powers settings like heading out to the active
while at taxi speed. Once airborne and making alot of power then the
readings are identical.

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
Stan Prevost wrote:
> I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
> identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
> airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a decrease
> in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1 to 1.0 gph.
> We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the transducer and
> fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.
>
> I always thought it was weird.
>
> Stan
>

Stan Prevost[_1_]
September 2nd 06, 01:26 AM
Mine did it at all power settings and altitudes.


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Funny you should mention that,,, Mine does the exact same thing, but
> it only happens at low powers settings like heading out to the active
> while at taxi speed. Once airborne and making alot of power then the
> readings are identical.
>
> Ben
> www.haaspowerair.com
> Stan Prevost wrote:
>> I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
>> identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
>> airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a
>> decrease
>> in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1 to 1.0
>> gph.
>> We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the transducer
>> and
>> fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.
>>
>> I always thought it was weird.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>

September 2nd 06, 01:37 AM
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 14:59:08 -0500, "Jim Burns"
> wrote:

>Thanks TC,
>I've read about the interference issues and will keep that in mind. Looks
>like 3 wires from the transducer to the indicator... 1 signal wire, 1 power
>wire, 1 ground, wristlocked and sleeved at the transducer.
>
>Running the wires from the firewall through the nacelle and wing won't be a
>problem as I became vary familiar with that routing last month when we
>installed copper starter/battery cables.
>
>I haven't found any mounting or plumbing instructions for the transducers,
>so your info is appreciated.

What dealers/whose STC's are you looking at? Seem to remember that we
bought quite a few of them from EDMO. Not much on their website
(EDMO), need to take a peek at somebody's dealer catalog.

Copper wires in an Aztec-heh. Some days I guess I don't miss working
on them anymore...

TC

Jim Burns
September 2nd 06, 01:46 AM
I've talked with all the larger avionics houses, I've got an IA already
talking to EDMO and I've talked to a couple guys in sales at Shadin.

The copper wire project really wasn't bad. We had everything opened up
anyway. Wow... what a difference!

Jim

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 14:59:08 -0500, "Jim Burns"
> > wrote:
>
>>Thanks TC,
>>I've read about the interference issues and will keep that in mind. Looks
>>like 3 wires from the transducer to the indicator... 1 signal wire, 1
>>power
>>wire, 1 ground, wristlocked and sleeved at the transducer.
>>
>>Running the wires from the firewall through the nacelle and wing won't be
>>a
>>problem as I became vary familiar with that routing last month when we
>>installed copper starter/battery cables.
>>
>>I haven't found any mounting or plumbing instructions for the transducers,
>>so your info is appreciated.
>
> What dealers/whose STC's are you looking at? Seem to remember that we
> bought quite a few of them from EDMO. Not much on their website
> (EDMO), need to take a peek at somebody's dealer catalog.
>
> Copper wires in an Aztec-heh. Some days I guess I don't miss working
> on them anymore...
>
> TC

Frank Ch. Eigler
September 2nd 06, 02:51 AM
"Jim Burns" > writes:

> [...] My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement
> of our Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators.

You realize that you are sacrificing some redundancy with this, right?
Having both fuel pressure and flow rate is a useful cross-check.
Plugged fuel injectors show up as a drastic mismatch between the
pressure-based vs flow-based numbers. Plus the two of them can
complete a corss-checking triangle against the EGT gauge(s).

> The original fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines
> attached. 40 year old copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not
> make me especially comfortable. [...]

True, though how frequently do such instruments/lines leak near
the cockpit?

- FChE

Jim Burns[_1_]
September 2nd 06, 01:33 PM
Sorry Frank, I hit the wrong reply button... anyway, my plan includes a twin
engine analyzer and a couple Aerospace Logic electronic fuel
pressure/ammeter gauges.
Jim

"Frank Ch. Eigler" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" > writes:
>
> > [...] My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
> > meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement
> > of our Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators.
>
> You realize that you are sacrificing some redundancy with this, right?
> Having both fuel pressure and flow rate is a useful cross-check.
> Plugged fuel injectors show up as a drastic mismatch between the
> pressure-based vs flow-based numbers. Plus the two of them can
> complete a corss-checking triangle against the EGT gauge(s).
>
> > The original fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines
> > attached. 40 year old copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not
> > make me especially comfortable. [...]
>
> True, though how frequently do such instruments/lines leak near
> the cockpit?
>
> - FChE

Michelle P
September 2nd 06, 04:00 PM
Stan Prevost wrote:
> I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
> identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
> airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a decrease
> in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1 to 1.0 gph.
> We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the transducer and
> fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.
>
> I always thought it was weird.
>
> Stan
>
>
>
> "Jim Burns" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
>>DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had
>>a
>>Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.
>>
>>My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
>>meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
>>Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
>>fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
>>copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
>>comfortable.
>>
>>Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
>>They
>>do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
>>I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
>>into
>>an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
>>grateful.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Jim
>>
>>
>
>
>
Stan,
Actually that makes sense. If you are pumping against the metering
device you will be initially raising the flow until the down stream
plumbing becomes "full". then things will slow down.

Michelle P

Stan Prevost[_1_]
September 2nd 06, 06:07 PM
"Michelle P" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Stan Prevost wrote:
>> I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
>> identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
>> airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a
>> decrease in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1
>> to 1.0 gph. We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the
>> transducer and fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.
>>
>> I always thought it was weird.
>>
>> Stan

>>
> Stan,
> Actually that makes sense. If you are pumping against the metering device
> you will be initially raising the flow until the down stream plumbing
> becomes "full". then things will slow down.
>
> Michelle P

No, when I turn on the boost pump, thus increasing the fuel pressure to the
sensor and to the engine-driven pump, the flow indication decreases to a
new steady-state value until I turn it off, then it increases again to its
former steady-state indication. If I turn it on again, it decreases again.
Appears to be something unique to that sensor type since it does it in both
airplanes I fly that are equipped with the Shadin system.

Higher pressure giving lower flow indication is what is wierd. Actually, we
would like it to not change.

Dan Luke
September 2nd 06, 10:53 PM
"Stan Prevost" wrote:

> No, when I turn on the boost pump, thus increasing the fuel pressure to
> the sensor and to the engine-driven pump, the flow indication decreases
> to a new steady-state value until I turn it off, then it increases again
> to its former steady-state indication. If I turn it on again, it
> decreases again. Appears to be something unique to that sensor type since
> it does it in both airplanes I fly that are equipped with the Shadin
> system.

What kind of sensor is it? It's a turbine type, right?

> Higher pressure giving lower flow indication is what is wierd. Actually,
> we would like it to not change.

Interesting problem. Perhaps the higher static pressure is putting some
kind of friction load on the turbine shaft, maybe by deforming an o-ring
seal or some such.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Stan Prevost[_1_]
September 3rd 06, 01:26 AM
"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
>
> What kind of sensor is it? It's a turbine type, right?
>
It is a rotary sensor, but I'm not sure it is a turbine. Some type of
positive-displacement paddlewheel design.

>> Higher pressure giving lower flow indication is what is wierd. Actually,
>> we would like it to not change.
>
> Interesting problem. Perhaps the higher static pressure is putting some
> kind of friction load on the turbine shaft, maybe by deforming an o-ring
> seal or some such.
>

Something like that is all I could theorize, also. We suspected for a while
that we had bubbles giving abnormal high readings, and the increaed pressure
from the boost pump prevented the vapor bubble formation and thus lowered
the readings, but we did about everything that we could think of to
eliminate bubble formation, to no avail. I concluded it was the sensor
itself.

Viperdoc[_1_]
September 3rd 06, 01:58 AM
Jim:

Given the choice, I think a multiprobe engine analyzer is a more useful
investment, particularly in a twin. It's amazing watching those CHT's climb
on a hot summer day, where a single probe probably wouldn't show any
potential problems. It also allows for more accurate leaning, and tells
exactly which plug is having a problem when one gets fouled.

I have a Shadin fuel flow as well as an engine analyzer, and really believe
that for around the same amount of money the analyzer is much more useful.

Good luck.

Jim N

Jim Burns
September 3rd 06, 02:07 AM
Thanks Jim,
I've got one on the way but that project will take a little longer.
Jim

"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
...
> Jim:
>
> Given the choice, I think a multiprobe engine analyzer is a more useful
> investment, particularly in a twin. It's amazing watching those CHT's
> climb on a hot summer day, where a single probe probably wouldn't show any
> potential problems. It also allows for more accurate leaning, and tells
> exactly which plug is having a problem when one gets fouled.
>
> I have a Shadin fuel flow as well as an engine analyzer, and really
> believe that for around the same amount of money the analyzer is much more
> useful.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jim N
>

Frank Ch. Eigler
September 3rd 06, 10:03 PM
> > I have a Shadin fuel flow as well as an engine analyzer, and really
> > believe that for around the same amount of money the analyzer is much more
> > useful.

> I've got one on the way but that project will take a little longer.

It must be too late now, but you could have used the same setup as I
did: a JPI EDM-760 with its optional fuel flow sensors. It talks to
the GPS of course and doesn't take up an additional instrument slot.

- FChE

Jim Burns
September 3rd 06, 10:39 PM
As a matter of fact the 760 that I have coming is the fuel flow model... do
you know if it will work with the Shadin transducers? The 760 literature
says it works with "several types of Shadin transducers"
Jim

"Frank Ch. Eigler" > wrote in message
...
>
>> > I have a Shadin fuel flow as well as an engine analyzer, and really
>> > believe that for around the same amount of money the analyzer is much
>> > more
>> > useful.
>
>> I've got one on the way but that project will take a little longer.
>
> It must be too late now, but you could have used the same setup as I
> did: a JPI EDM-760 with its optional fuel flow sensors. It talks to
> the GPS of course and doesn't take up an additional instrument slot.
>
> - FChE

Frank Ch. Eigler
September 4th 06, 09:47 PM
"Jim Burns" > writes:

> As a matter of fact the 760 that I have coming is the fuel flow
> model... do you know if it will work with the Shadin transducers?
> The 760 literature says it works with "several types of Shadin
> transducers"

The 760 installation manual lists "Shadin PN 680501X / 680600X".
(But why not buy the JPI bundled fuel flow widgets then?)

- FChE

Jim Burns
September 5th 06, 02:04 AM
Thanks, I found the K factor setting that the JPI requires to use the Shadin
transducers. It shouldn't be a problem. Since the Shadin will be replacing
my primary FF I'll use the Shadin transducers. The fact that the JPI is set
up for fuel flow is really irrelevant to me, but as long as I'm running
wiring, I will use the feature if I don't have to shell out extra for their
transducers.
Jim

"Frank Ch. Eigler" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Burns" > writes:
>
>> As a matter of fact the 760 that I have coming is the fuel flow
>> model... do you know if it will work with the Shadin transducers?
>> The 760 literature says it works with "several types of Shadin
>> transducers"
>
> The 760 installation manual lists "Shadin PN 680501X / 680600X".
> (But why not buy the JPI bundled fuel flow widgets then?)
>
> - FChE

Shadin
September 17th 06, 07:11 AM
Jim:

Who did you ask at Shadin and what do you need?

Thanks,

Tom Alton
International Sales Manager
Shadin Avionics
952-924-1105

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