More info about LEX

[JohnWayne]

For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/EDIT01/608310315/-1/newscomaircrash

[Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]]

"JohnWayne" > wrote in message
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>
> For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault
>
> http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/EDIT01/608310315/-1/newscomaircrash

"It would be wrong to blame Sunday's crash on the lone controller or the
airport's lack of a second one to direct ground traffic."

The writer is correct, thanks for posting the link.

[Peter R.]

JohnWayne > wrote:

> For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault

It's merely one newspaper's editorial, not a final edict.

--
Peter

[Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
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> JohnWayne > wrote:
>
>> For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault
>
> It's merely one newspaper's editorial, not a final edict.
>

True, but the writer does say "It would be wrong to blame Sunday's crash on
the lone controller or the airport's lack of a second one to direct ground
traffic." It appears JohnWayne posted it without actually reading it.

[Ron Lee]

JohnWayne > wrote:

>For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault
>
>http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/EDIT01/608310315/-1/newscomaircrash

That is an editorial and apparently by people who do not fly and
understand the "pilot in command" concept. It has almost zero
usefulness and no credibility to me.

Ron Lee

[Jim Carter[_1_]]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Lee ]
> Posted At: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:15 AM
> Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
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> Ron Lee

The more mememe (aka oldfart) posts about this subject, the more I begin
to wonder if he has had a license revoked for some unwise act. And the
administrator that wrote him up was probably a black, female controller.


If that's the case, based on his recent display of knowledge and
understanding, she probably did us all a great favor.

Does anyone else start to reach the same conclusion?

[john smith]

In article >,
"Peter R." > wrote:

> JohnWayne > wrote:
>
> > For those FAA lovers who say the FAA is not at fault
>
> It's merely one newspaper's editorial, not a final edict.

I find it interesting that the editorial totally misses the bureau-think
mentality issue.

"We have to have two controllers doing the work on this shift. There
isn't alot going on in Lexington, so let's leave one guy there. We have
extra guys sitting around doing nothing in Indiannapolis. We'll have one
of them do the other stuff for Lexington. Nothing in the rules say they
have to physically be in the same facility, heh, heh!"

The point they missed is that if they have people in Indiannpolis (a
busier facility, higer pay) not doing anything, isn't cheaper to have a
second guy in Lexington (smaller facility, lower pay) doing the same job
and taking some of Indiannoplis' work?

I bet politics has something to do with it.

[Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]]

john smith wrote:
>
> The point they missed is that if they have people in Indiannpolis (a
> busier facility, higer pay) not doing anything, isn't cheaper to have a
> second guy in Lexington (smaller facility, lower pay) doing the same job
> and taking some of Indiannoplis' work?
>

Could you mangle that sentence any more than that?

[Jose[_1_]]

> Could you mangle that sentence any more than that?

The insertion of a single word makes the sentence work fine. It's a
little word, easily missed when typing.

Consider it a puzzle for you. :)

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Mike Adams[_1_]]

Jose > wrote:

> Consider it a puzzle for you. :)
>

What could it be?

[Colin]

I wouldn't waste to much time thinking about his problem. In a nutshell,
racism and sexism is basically a result of plain old ignorance.

>>
>> Ron Lee
>
> The more mememe (aka oldfart) posts about this subject, the more I begin
> to wonder if he has had a license revoked for some unwise act. And the
> administrator that wrote him up was probably a black, female controller.
>
>
> If that's the case, based on his recent display of knowledge and
> understanding, she probably did us all a great favor.
>
> Does anyone else start to reach the same conclusion?
>

[Sam Spade]

john smith wrote:

>
> The point they missed is that if they have people in Indiannpolis (a
> busier facility, higer pay) not doing anything, isn't cheaper to have a
> second guy in Lexington (smaller facility, lower pay) doing the same job
> and taking some of Indiannoplis' work?
>
> I bet politics has something to do with it.

The Center can pick up the work at night quite effeciently.

[Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]]

"Sam Spade" > wrote in message
news:OeAKg.3522$c07.1214@fed1read04...
>
> The Center can pick up the work at night quite effeciently.
>

Can it? The nightly traffic reported for LEX doesn't seem to be enough to
keep the tower open, I assumed it was a 24 hour facility just to provide
radar coverage in that area. If Center radar covers that area adequately
then the tower and TRACON should have been closed. Comair would then have
crashed while attempting takeoff on the wrong runway at an uncontrolled
field and the media would have no controller to shift responsibility to.

[Ron Lee]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote:

>
>"Sam Spade" > wrote in message
>news:OeAKg.3522$c07.1214@fed1read04...
>>
>> The Center can pick up the work at night quite effeciently.
>>
>
>Can it? The nightly traffic reported for LEX doesn't seem to be enough to
>keep the tower open, I assumed it was a 24 hour facility just to provide
>radar coverage in that area. If Center radar covers that area adequately
>then the tower and TRACON should have been closed. Comair would then have
>crashed while attempting takeoff on the wrong runway at an uncontrolled
>field and the media would have no controller to shift responsibility to.

Or the press could look at who made the mistake.

Ron Lee
>
>

[Sam Spade]

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
> "Sam Spade" > wrote in message
> news:OeAKg.3522$c07.1214@fed1read04...
>
>>The Center can pick up the work at night quite effeciently.
>>
>
>
> Can it? The nightly traffic reported for LEX doesn't seem to be enough to
> keep the tower open, I assumed it was a 24 hour facility just to provide
> radar coverage in that area. If Center radar covers that area adequately
> then the tower and TRACON should have been closed. Comair would then have
> crashed while attempting takeoff on the wrong runway at an uncontrolled
> field and the media would have no controller to shift responsibility to.
>
>

Maybe you understand why the FAA would keep a tower open 24 hours to
only provide TRACON services.

Why not keep the TRACON open, but close the tower if keeping radar
coverage in that area is important?

[Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]]

"Sam Spade" > wrote in message
news:e8DKg.3528$c07.72@fed1read04...
>
> Maybe you understand why the FAA would keep a tower open 24 hours to only
> provide TRACON services.
>
> Why not keep the TRACON open, but close the tower if keeping radar
> coverage in that area is important?
>

Why not do both, since the radar services can be provided from the tower at
no additional cost?