Questtions about ATC-Fligtplan

[Daniel Hofer]

Hello

I have some questions about the ATC-flightplan and how to fill it out.

1. Field 10, standard equipment
ILS means localizer AND glideslope, right?
DME is not part of standard equipment, right?

2. Field 10
R means RNP. Do I need to write e.g. R5 for RNP5? Or is no value needed? (is
it dependent on the used ATS-routes?)
If I use R, it doesn't mean automatically G? (I fly a PA34, GNS 430 is the
only RNAV-equipment).

My instructor means the following is correct:
SRY

but I think it's the following:
SDGRY

What do you think??
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3. Field 19, emergency equipment
If I have no survival equipment, is it necessary to cross out ALL fields or
only the first one ( the S)

And last question:
VHF emergency radio. Does it mean a separate COMM-receiver or only the
ability to receive on 121.5?

Hope you have some answers;-)
Thanks a lot!

Daniel

[Newps]

Daniel Hofer wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have some questions about the ATC-flightplan and how to fill it out.
>
> 1. Field 10, standard equipment
> ILS means localizer AND glideslope, right?

Wouldn't be an ILS without one.


> DME is not part of standard equipment, right?

No, but it's pretty rare to have one without it.


>
> 2. Field 10
> R means RNP. Do I need to write e.g. R5 for RNP5? Or is no value needed? (is
> it dependent on the used ATS-routes?)
> If I use R, it doesn't mean automatically G? (I fly a PA34, GNS 430 is the
> only RNAV-equipment).

You ain't got RNP, that's airliner and bizjet stuff. You're 430 makes
you a /G.

[john smith]

Is the .ch in your email address Switzerland?
Is the flight plan for a Swiss Flight Plan form or an International
Flight Plan form?

[Daniel Hofer]

Hello John

sure;-) .ch is Switzerland.
Is it a european flightplan or better, an ICAO flightplan, described in DOC
4444.

Daniel

[Julian Scarfe]

"Daniel Hofer" > wrote in message
...
>
> 1. Field 10, standard equipment
> ILS means localizer AND glideslope, right?
> DME is not part of standard equipment, right?

Both correct.

> 2. Field 10
> R means RNP. Do I need to write e.g. R5 for RNP5? Or is no value needed?
(is
> it dependent on the used ATS-routes?)

Just R.

> If I use R, it doesn't mean automatically G? (I fly a PA34, GNS 430 is the
> only RNAV-equipment).

No, it does not automatically mean G.

> My instructor means the following is correct:
> SRY
>
> but I think it's the following:
> SDGRY
>
> What do you think??

Strictly speaking, you are correct. However, I don't think you add any
extra info for ATC with DG. Certainly I've been writing SR (I can't get
above FL245 so 8.33, Y, is unnecessary) for many years without issue. I
wouldn't take it too seriously. R tells ATC what it needs to know. The only
one (apart from S) that really matters is a Y if abouve FL245 -- without
that the FPL will be rejected.

> ------------------
> 3. Field 19, emergency equipment
> If I have no survival equipment, is it necessary to cross out ALL fields
or
> only the first one ( the S)

All of them. Bear in mind that the FPL is a template for an AFTN text
message. Your form may be transcribed to e.g.

-E/0310 P/002 R/VE J/L D/01 004 ORANGE A/WHITE C/HOFER

If you have maritime survival equipment you want it to look like:

-E/0310 P/002 R/VE S/M J/L D/01 004 ORANGE A/WHITE C/HOFER

not

-E/0310 P/002 R/VE M J/L D/01 004 ORANGE A/WHITE C/HOFER

though most ops people will understand that if you cross out the S you mean
that you have no survival equipment at all.

> And last question:
> VHF emergency radio. Does it mean a separate COMM-receiver or only the
> ability to receive on 121.5?

Separate emergency COM I think.

HTH

Julian Scarfe

[Daniel Hofer]

Hello Julian

thank you very much for your help!

One small question: is 8.33 only used above FL245? I didn't know...

Thanks

Daniel

[Julian Scarfe]

"Daniel Hofer" > wrote in message
...

> One small question: is 8.33 only used above FL245? I didn't know...

I think so.

http://www.eurocontrol.int/vhf833/

Julian

[Mike Rapoport]

Try:
http://www.fracpilot.com/Aviation_Links/icao_fltpln.htm

Mike
MU-2


"Daniel Hofer" > wrote in message
...
> Hello
>
> I have some questions about the ATC-flightplan and how to fill it out.
>
> 1. Field 10, standard equipment
> ILS means localizer AND glideslope, right?
> DME is not part of standard equipment, right?
>
> 2. Field 10
> R means RNP. Do I need to write e.g. R5 for RNP5? Or is no value needed?
(is
> it dependent on the used ATS-routes?)
> If I use R, it doesn't mean automatically G? (I fly a PA34, GNS 430 is the
> only RNAV-equipment).
>
> My instructor means the following is correct:
> SRY
>
> but I think it's the following:
> SDGRY
>
> What do you think??
> ------------------
> 3. Field 19, emergency equipment
> If I have no survival equipment, is it necessary to cross out ALL fields
or
> only the first one ( the S)
>
> And last question:
> VHF emergency radio. Does it mean a separate COMM-receiver or only the
> ability to receive on 121.5?
>
> Hope you have some answers;-)
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Daniel
>
>

[Daniel Hofer]

Hi Mike

thanks!

Daniel