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Sam Spade
September 22nd 06, 10:42 PM
FAA Order 8260.19C, "Flight Procedures and Airspace," Paragraph 852(d) (1):

(1) Fix altitudes established on ILS for
LOC-only use should be coincident with the glide slope
when possible. Where the fix altitude is not within
feet of the glide slope, annotate it for LOC use as
follows:

MIN ALT CAROL 1600*
*LOC only

NOTE: This notation is not used when the
nonprecision FAF altitude is the same as GS
intercept altitude.

Sam Spade
September 22nd 06, 10:43 PM
Sam Spade wrote:

> FAA Order 8260.19C, "Flight Procedures and Airspace," Paragraph 852(d) (1):
>
> (1) Fix altitudes established on ILS for
> LOC-only use should be coincident with the glide slope
> when possible. Where the fix altitude is not within
> feet of the glide slope, annotate it for LOC use as
> follows:
>
> MIN ALT CAROL 1600*
> *LOC only
>
> NOTE: This notation is not used when the
> nonprecision FAF altitude is the same as GS
> intercept altitude.

should read "not within 20 feet..."

JPH
September 23rd 06, 03:51 AM
Sam Spade wrote:
> Sam Spade wrote:
>
>> FAA Order 8260.19C, "Flight Procedures and Airspace," Paragraph 852(d)
>> (1):
>>
>> (1) Fix altitudes established on ILS for
>> LOC-only use should be coincident with the glide slope
>> when possible. Where the fix altitude is not within
>> feet of the glide slope, annotate it for LOC use as
>> follows:
>>
>> MIN ALT CAROL 1600*
>> *LOC only
>>
>> NOTE: This notation is not used when the
>> nonprecision FAF altitude is the same as GS
>> intercept altitude.
>
>
> should read "not within 20 feet..."

This is the current criteria as clarified by change 1 in 1998. It was
different before then.

Sam Spade
September 23rd 06, 07:19 PM
JPH wrote:
> Sam Spade wrote:
>
>> Sam Spade wrote:
>>
>>> FAA Order 8260.19C, "Flight Procedures and Airspace," Paragraph
>>> 852(d) (1):
>>>
>>> (1) Fix altitudes established on ILS for
>>> LOC-only use should be coincident with the glide slope
>>> when possible. Where the fix altitude is not within
>>> feet of the glide slope, annotate it for LOC use as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> MIN ALT CAROL 1600*
>>> *LOC only
>>>
>>> NOTE: This notation is not used when the
>>> nonprecision FAF altitude is the same as GS
>>> intercept altitude.
>>
>>
>>
>> should read "not within 20 feet..."
>
>
> This is the current criteria as clarified by change 1 in 1998. It was
> different before then.

Here is what is said in the original issuance of 8260.19C, dated 9/16/93
( Page 8-11, Paragraph 811 d.):

(1) Fix altitudes established on ILS for LOC-only should be coincident
with the glide slope when possible. Where the stepdown fix altitude is
not within 20 feet of the glide slope, annotate it for LOC use as follows:

MIN ALT CAROL 1600^
*LOC ONLY

This is the same as it reads today, for all practical purposes.

Can you cite the language that changed this for some period between late
1993 and 1998?

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