Hangar & PortAPort Ground Rent

[RST Engineering]

The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars as
well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at GOO.

If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
assertion that the increase is justified.

Thanks ...

Jim

[Ron Natalie]

RST Engineering wrote:

> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
> please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
> size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
> power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
> me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
> assertion that the increase is justified.
>
>
We are paying $200/mo for a hangar about an hour from DC with free
electricity. It's a 44x 40 or so T hangar I think (navion goes in
with a few feet to spare).


The comparable ones closer in run about $400-450 (if you can get one).

[Ross Richardson[_2_]]

RST Engineering wrote:
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars as
> well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
> please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
> size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
> power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
> me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
> assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim
>
>
In North Central TX about 60 miles north of Dallas
Regular T-hangar with rolling doors
$205/month
Free electricity
Limited quanity but more to be built. $UNK for new ones
Free wash area available (but bring your own equipment)
Town is ~35K with a bordering town of ~25K
We also have a county airport (ex military) with ILS, etc near by


--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Jon Kraus]

What is the current rent and what is it going up to?

Jon Kraus

RST Engineering wrote:
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars as
> well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
> please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
> size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
> power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
> me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
> assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim
>
>

[houstondan]

250$/month northwest suburban/rural houston. probably going up soon.

t-hanger with elect. common wash areas in a full service class D.

kdwh david wayne hooks. good place

dan



RST Engineering wrote:

> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
> please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
> size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
> power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
> me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
> assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"RST Engineering" > wrote:

> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars as
> well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type hangar)
> please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental, approximate
> size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities (water, potty,
> power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything else that will let
> me have some data foundation for an answer to the airport manager's
> assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim

Massport, being customer focused, does NOT allow the portaport type hangars

At KBED (Bedford, MA) T-Hangar Rates

(Effective September 1, 2006)
A Row $413.00 per month
B & C Row $466.00 per month
D, E, F, H & J Row $606.00 per month
G 1-7 Row $1,320.00 per month
G 8* $1,515.00 per month
*Plus Utilities

(A row was $208/month in April 2003, J row was $359/month)

1 15 amp circuit is provided in each hangar.
A, B, & C have manual sliding doors
the others have electric bi-fold doors
D - J row are just big enough for a small twin (e.g., aztec)
G row is big enough for Malibus, etc

No water. A port-a-potty is "provided"
The tarmac is front of J row hangars is generously graded
to collect water dripping off the roof so that in the winter
there is a wide swath of ice in front of, under, and inside the door.

fwiw - I left my hangar 30 August - It just wasn't worth the almost
$7300 per year.


good luck

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Ronnie]

KGTU, Georgetown, TX, 30 miles north of Austin, TX

$157.50 for older T-hangar with bi-fold electric door and
electricity in the hangar. Asphalt parking pad, the rest of
floot is dirt / gravel.

$235/mon for the newere, nicer T-hangars, concrete floor
same doors and utilities.

Restrooms are located at the end of most rows of hangars
and at the terminal building.

Ronnie

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars
> as well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at
> GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type
> hangar) please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental,
> approximate size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities
> (water, potty, power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything
> else that will let me have some data foundation for an answer to the
> airport manager's assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim
>

[Kyle Boatright]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars
> as well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at
> GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type
> hangar) please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental,
> approximate size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities
> (water, potty, power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything
> else that will let me have some data foundation for an answer to the
> airport manager's assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim

Cartersville, GA. 35 miles NW of Atlanta/Hartsfield. Rural area. Local
town has 8,000 residents.

$200/month for small T-hangar (twins won't fit due to wingspan, not tall
enough for a Hangar lift). No electricity. Bathroom at FBO 300 yards away.
No parking near hangars.

KB

[[email protected]]

$280/mo for unheated T-hangar with concrete floor, manual sliding doors,
with 115 VAC (no extra util. charge). Heated restrooms are a couple of rows
over. Wash rack is available (and they even provide a hose). This is at
KPAE in Everett, WA. It's generally the most convenient "major reliever"
airport serving north King and Snohomish counties, including North Seattle
and northern suburbs, (KPAE is also the site of the Boeing 747/777
manufacturing facility.)

-Elliott Drucker

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars
> as well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at
> GOO.
>
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type
> hangar) please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental,
> approximate size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities
> (water, potty, power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything
> else that will let me have some data foundation for an answer to the
> airport manager's assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim
>

El Dorado AR ELD. City population 20,000. Ground lease for a personally
owned 40x50 hanger $465/yr.

[NVArt]

At HTH, Hawthorne, NV., a personally owned 1500 sq. ft. hangar is
640.00 a year. Town pop=3,800. 6000 ft. runway, two cross wind runways.
380 vfr days a year. :)

[nrp]

Shell Lake WI (SSQ) ground lease rate is 12 cents per sq ft per year
based on the footprint area of your hangar. You have to arrange your
own hangar construction, paved taxiway access, utilities(s), and mow
your grass. The terminal building is about 500 ft away, the town is a
mile away, and the lake is a block away.

Paradise - especially compared to what some of you are paying.

[Ray Andraka]

at KPVD: $250/mo for an overcrowded, condemned group hangar, no heat,
birds, and only the FBO can pull the plane out or put it back...FBO is
only there 8-5 daily, so if flying early or late the plane sits outside
overnight, and you have to know before 4:30 that you are going to go.
The $250/mo is a good price for the northeast. State will not allow
private hangars, and has no plans to put up any new hangars.

[B A R R Y[_1_]]

Ray Andraka wrote:
> The $250/mo is a good price for the northeast.

In my experience, that's a true statement.

Couldn't you find an easier place to deal with at one of the several
airports nearby?

[Ray Andraka]

B A R R Y wrote:
> Ray Andraka wrote:
>
>> The $250/mo is a good price for the northeast.
>
>
> In my experience, that's a true statement.
>
> Couldn't you find an easier place to deal with at one of the several
> airports nearby?

Not if I want to be in a hangar. OQU is closer, but has no available
hangar space. They have some grandfathered tenant built hangars, but
there is a moratorium on building new, and the ones that are there are
to be condemned for airport reconstruction within the next few years, so
buying an existing owner out isn't a financially viable solution.
Newport is the next closest, again, no hangars available, 10 year
waiting list. North Central is next, with about a 40 minute drive.
There is a new hangar there, but I think it is privately owned and
targetted for bizjets (and priced accordingly).

The problem is the atmosphere here is not very GA friendly, and no one
is going out of their way to put up hangars for small planes at anything
approaching an affordable price. The state owns all 7 airports, and
isn't allowing any new private T hangars on any.

[B A R R Y[_1_]]

Ray Andraka wrote:

> The state owns all 7 airports, and
> isn't allowing any new private T hangars

Sounds a lot like where I'm based, but change the state from RI to CT. <G>

[Dick Meade[_1_]]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> If you are in a hangar (especially a personally owned portaport type
> hangar) please post back with monthly ground rental or hangar rental,
> approximate size of the city/town the airport is located, any amenities
> (water, potty, power, etc.) that come along with the rent, and anything
> else that will let me have some data foundation for an answer to the
> airport manager's assertion that the increase is justified.
>
> Thanks ...
>
> Jim
>

Small town, 3800 population. Ground lease for a port-a-port is the same as
the tiedown fee (approx $25.00 per month). Pretty logical. Power is
available, but you have to arrange for service. Bathroom and plane wash
area are accessible.

All the T-hangars (14 spaces so far) have been built by groups of aircraft
owners. We financed and built them, and have exclusive use of them for 20
years. At the end of that time, they become the property of the city, and
we have first right to continue to rent them.

[[email protected]]

Don't want to make you feel bad but in south central Nebraska a metal
tee hanger with bi-fold electric door, electricity, and cement floor
will run from $70 to $90 per month. These are associated with cities of
2,000 to 6,000 population.

[RST Engineering]

The county airport manager wanted a 20% boost in tiedowns to $50 a month and
a 36% boost in ground rental for portaports to $64 a month. About the same
percentage for county owned hangars, 50 cents a month per square foot.

At the airport commission meeting, due to all the data you folks gave me
plus some other stuff from other owners, he got a COLA raise of 3.5%.

You guys are great.

150 airplane owners at KGOO
Say a very hearty thank you.

{;-)

Jim



"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> The local airport authority (county) wants a pretty hefty chunk of change
> increase in the ground rental for our personally owned PortAPort hangars
> as well as a goodly increase in the county owned permanent T-hangars at
> GOO.

[Montblack[_1_]]

("RST Engineering" wrote)
> You guys are great.
>
> 150 airplane owners at KGOO
> Say a very hearty thank you.


GOO ...still a funny name. :-)


Montblack