G1000 simulator

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I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?

Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
remains at zero.

I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
working.(BTW, the display is great).

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It is a G1000 trainer, not a flight simulator, so it is not really
simulating the flight controls.
But the ground track should change when the heading is changed, don't
know what the problem is.
I use the Garmin Cessna G1000 trainer.

wrote:
> I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
> attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
> a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
> banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
> There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
> change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
> remains at zero.
>
> I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
> working.(BTW, the display is great).

[[email protected]]

Does your Cessna version have autopilot, flight director, approach,
vnav and other buttons on the left side between the "HDG" and "ALT"
knobs? If so, are they functional? Mine are not.


wrote:
> It is a G1000 trainer, not a flight simulator, so it is not really
> simulating the flight controls.
> But the ground track should change when the heading is changed, don't
> know what the problem is.
> I use the Garmin Cessna G1000 trainer.
>
> wrote:
> > I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
> > attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
> > a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
> > banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?
> >
> > Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
> > There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
> > change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
> > remains at zero.
> >
> > I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
> > working.(BTW, the display is great).

[[email protected]]

I asked Garmin Tech support about this. It doesn't fly at all like
an airplane, but you do have some means to control heading, airspeed
and altitude - even if not by the normal means.

wrote:
> I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
> attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
> a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
> banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
> There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
> change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
> remains at zero.
>
> I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
> working.(BTW, the display is great).

[Robert M. Gary]

wrote:
> I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
> attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
> a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
> banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?
>
> Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
> There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
> change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
> remains at zero.
>
> I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
> working.(BTW, the display is great).

Doesn't sound like much of an improvement over the semi-free (just pay
shipping) software that I use from Garmin. Every turn is a 45 degree
bank but it very,very correctly recreates the G1000 in every other
detail. I run it on my desktop and my laptop. You can shoot approaches,
etc but the real benefit of the simulator is getting the students used
to navigating the pages, especially if they don't have 430 time
already.

-Robert, CFII

[[email protected]]

This *is* the semi-free ($3.00) version. Late word from Garmin Tech
suggests the software is flawed and will be fixed for "the next
release".
Robert M. Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> > I purchased the Raytheon G36 trainer software from Garmin. After
> > attaching a new Saitek Cyborg Evo and verifying the controls, I gave it
> > a try. The heading only seems to change when the rudder is activated:
> > banks leave the heading unchanged. Anyone else have this problem?
> >
> > Also, even with a heading change, the ground track remains unchanged.
> > There are other weird things. Although the throttle causes the rpm's to
> > change, the manifold pressure remains below 10" and the oil pressure
> > remains at zero.
> >
> > I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone who has the software
> > working.(BTW, the display is great).
>
> Doesn't sound like much of an improvement over the semi-free (just pay
> shipping) software that I use from Garmin. Every turn is a 45 degree
> bank but it very,very correctly recreates the G1000 in every other
> detail. I run it on my desktop and my laptop. You can shoot approaches,
> etc but the real benefit of the simulator is getting the students used
> to navigating the pages, especially if they don't have 430 time
> already.
>
> -Robert, CFII

[Robert M. Gary]

wrote:
> This *is* the semi-free ($3.00) version. Late word from Garmin Tech
> suggests the software is flawed and will be fixed for "the next
> release".

Oh, I thought you bought their $30,000 simulator system. I believe the
Cessna training centers are required to have it.
Yes, you are correct that the software simulator makes a REALLY crappy
flight simulator but it is still a very good procedural simulator. I
find it helpful for students. However, it can be very frustrating to
try to turn knobs in the simulator, its much easier to turn knobs in
real life.
We bought a GPU for the aircraft so we can sit out in the hanger with
students and run through procedures in the actual aircraft w/o having
to worry about draining the battery.

-Robert

[akiley[_1_]]

The best I could do with the CD yoke and pedals was to get aileron to
bank only. The plane does not turn with aileron only. The pedals
cause it to turn, so I can use the both together. The throttle works.
I think the track up mode is messed up to where the heading doesn't
align with you track.

I used CH's manager that aloud me to map the functions on my yoke, but
it took a lot of messing around.

Have you hit the Menu button two times on the G1000? You get all sort
of options as to where the aircraft is placed at startup. I now,
disconnect my joystick by setting it to off mode in the manager. If
you don't have a similar manager, just physically unplug your yoke or
joystick. When unplugged, all the items on the Menu/Menu page can be
set. You can have your aircraft autopilot on the flightplan you have
activated, or just manually put in headings, airspeed, altitude etc.

Too bad Garmin couldn't get a very rough flight sim going by just
getting controls to work in a very basic manner. But Garmin is much
better than other companies. I tried to get Bendix to make a KLN94 GPS
only sim. They claimed they were working on it 3 years ago, but it
never happened. Akiley

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/13/06 05:57, akiley wrote:
> The best I could do with the CD yoke and pedals was to get aileron to
> bank only. The plane does not turn with aileron only. The pedals
> cause it to turn, so I can use the both together. The throttle works.
> I think the track up mode is messed up to where the heading doesn't
> align with you track.
>
> I used CH's manager that aloud me to map the functions on my yoke, but
> it took a lot of messing around.
>
> Have you hit the Menu button two times on the G1000? You get all sort
> of options as to where the aircraft is placed at startup. I now,
> disconnect my joystick by setting it to off mode in the manager. If
> you don't have a similar manager, just physically unplug your yoke or
> joystick. When unplugged, all the items on the Menu/Menu page can be
> set. You can have your aircraft autopilot on the flightplan you have
> activated, or just manually put in headings, airspeed, altitude etc.
>
> Too bad Garmin couldn't get a very rough flight sim going by just
> getting controls to work in a very basic manner. But Garmin is much
> better than other companies. I tried to get Bendix to make a KLN94 GPS
> only sim. They claimed they were working on it 3 years ago, but it
> never happened. Akiley

They completed it, but couldn't get approval from King to distribute
it, so they had to put it on the shelf. Too bad, I would really like
to see that simulator too.

>



--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

[Jim Macklin]

To see a real G1000 simulator
http://www.frasca.com/web_pages/brochures/Mentor%20brochure.htm

Have not checked price and options, but as soon as I win the
lottery...

"Mark Hansen" > wrote in message
...
| On 10/13/06 05:57, akiley wrote:
| > The best I could do with the CD yoke and pedals was to
get aileron to
| > bank only. The plane does not turn with aileron only.
The pedals
| > cause it to turn, so I can use the both together. The
throttle works.
| > I think the track up mode is messed up to where the
heading doesn't
| > align with you track.
| >
| > I used CH's manager that aloud me to map the functions
on my yoke, but
| > it took a lot of messing around.
| >
| > Have you hit the Menu button two times on the G1000?
You get all sort
| > of options as to where the aircraft is placed at
startup. I now,
| > disconnect my joystick by setting it to off mode in the
manager. If
| > you don't have a similar manager, just physically unplug
your yoke or
| > joystick. When unplugged, all the items on the
Menu/Menu page can be
| > set. You can have your aircraft autopilot on the
flightplan you have
| > activated, or just manually put in headings, airspeed,
altitude etc.
| >
| > Too bad Garmin couldn't get a very rough flight sim
going by just
| > getting controls to work in a very basic manner. But
Garmin is much
| > better than other companies. I tried to get Bendix to
make a KLN94 GPS
| > only sim. They claimed they were working on it 3 years
ago, but it
| > never happened. Akiley
|
| They completed it, but couldn't get approval from King to
distribute
| it, so they had to put it on the shelf. Too bad, I would
really like
| to see that simulator too.
|
| >
|
|
|
| --
| Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
| Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
| Sacramento, CA