Air Safety in America at risk

[AntiSocialist]

The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
technicians each month

They are not being backfilled

But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing their
employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity

Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???

Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm Mineta

"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"

[Matt Whiting]

AntiSocialist wrote:
> The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
> technicians each month
>
> They are not being backfilled
>
> But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing their
> employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
> welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity
>
> Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???
>
> Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm
> Mineta
>
> "Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"

Looks like using a different alias. What a piece
of work...

[Blanche]

Norman Mineta has already resigned.

Second, this is an old troll. Try for originality next time, ok?

[MooneyMan]

wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:16:21 -0500, Matt Whiting
> > wrote:
>
>
>>AntiSocialist wrote:
>>
>>>The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
>>>technicians each month
>>>
>>>They are not being backfilled
>>>
>>>But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing their
>>>employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
>>>welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity
>>>
>>>Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???
>>>
>>>Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm
>>>Mineta
>>>
>>>"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"
>>
>>Looks like using a different alias. What a piece
>>of work...
>
>
>
> This is a bit of a stretch, isn't it Matt?
>
> After all, this kind of rhetoric usually comes from you folks on the
> religious right.
>
> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wrote this stuff with his
> Bible open alongside.
>
> Sounds like he might be a good ole christian Ku Klux Klanner to me.

What if he is right??
Most of the Government has gone Tango Uniform due to social engineering
I mean have you ever attempted to deal with the IRS lately???
The FAA may be in the same boat

[Chris]

"MooneyMan" > wrote in message
.. .
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:16:21 -0500, Matt Whiting
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>AntiSocialist wrote:
>>>
>>>>The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
>>>>technicians each month
>>>>
>>>>They are not being backfilled
>>>>
>>>>But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing their
>>>>employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
>>>>welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity
>>>>
>>>>Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???
>>>>
>>>>Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm
>>>>Mineta
>>>>
>>>>"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"
>>>
>>>Looks like using a different alias. What a piece of
>>>work...
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a bit of a stretch, isn't it Matt?
>>
>> After all, this kind of rhetoric usually comes from you folks on the
>> religious right.
>>
>> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wrote this stuff with his
>> Bible open alongside. Sounds like he might be a good ole christian Ku
>> Klux Klanner to me.
>
> What if he is right??
> Most of the Government has gone Tango Uniform due to social engineering
> I mean have you ever attempted to deal with the IRS lately???
> The FAA may be in the same boat
>
This is an interesting observation on the liberal vs. conservative issue

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1378227,00.html

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:42:55 -0500, MooneyMan >
wrote:

>What if he is right??
>Most of the Government has gone Tango Uniform due to social engineering
>I mean have you ever attempted to deal with the IRS lately???
>The FAA may be in the same boat


On the other hand, it just might be a problem with budget cuts forced
to offset tax cuts for the wealthy.

Somehow, I don'g get a connection between homosexuality and ability to
handle a radar screen.

Maybe you do.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
>
> "MooneyMan" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:16:21 -0500, Matt Whiting
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>AntiSocialist wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
>>>>>technicians each month
>>>>>
>>>>>They are not being backfilled
>>>>>
>>>>>But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing their
>>>>>employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
>>>>>welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity
>>>>>
>>>>>Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???
>>>>>
>>>>>Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm
>>>>>Mineta
>>>>>
>>>>>"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"
>>>>
>>>>Looks like using a different alias. What a piece
>>>>of work...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a bit of a stretch, isn't it Matt?
>>>
>>> After all, this kind of rhetoric usually comes from you folks on the
>>> religious right.
>>>
>>> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wrote this stuff with his
>>> Bible open alongside. Sounds like he might be a good ole christian Ku
>>> Klux Klanner to me.
>>
>> What if he is right??
>> Most of the Government has gone Tango Uniform due to social engineering
>> I mean have you ever attempted to deal with the IRS lately???
>> The FAA may be in the same boat
>>
> This is an interesting observation on the liberal vs. conservative issue
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1378227,00.html
>

That requires a subscription.

[[email protected]]

wrote:

> Somehow, I don'g get a connection between homosexuality and ability to
> handle a radar screen.
>
> Maybe you do.

It's a typical knee-jerk reaction and inclusion of the wrong group. Gays,
as a group, are probably brighter than the average population. Some of
them, perhaps, might be too high strung to be a good controller, but that is
probably a minority of gays.

On the other hand, as politically incorrect as it may be to say, some of the
minorities that find their way into the system because of equal opportunity
requirements, are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get.

Gay-haters like to lump gays into the overall group of incomptents, which is
just plain wrong and just plain bigotry.

[Chris]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
k.net...
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "MooneyMan" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:16:21 -0500, Matt Whiting
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>AntiSocialist wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The FAA is losing hundreds of controllers and Radar/ILS/Communication
>>>>>>technicians each month
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They are not being backfilled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, the FAA is promoting homosexuality and gay pride and forcing
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>employees to accept perversion in the workplace and hiring unqualified
>>>>>>welfare to work blacks in the name of diversity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gives you a warm fuzzy when you are IFR in the clouds huh???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Write your Congressman and call for the immediate replacement of Norm
>>>>>>Mineta
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks like using a different alias. What a piece
>>>>>of work...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a bit of a stretch, isn't it Matt?
>>>>
>>>> After all, this kind of rhetoric usually comes from you folks on the
>>>> religious right.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wrote this stuff with his
>>>> Bible open alongside. Sounds like he might be a good ole christian Ku
>>>> Klux Klanner to me.
>>>
>>> What if he is right??
>>> Most of the Government has gone Tango Uniform due to social engineering
>>> I mean have you ever attempted to deal with the IRS lately???
>>> The FAA may be in the same boat
>>>
>> This is an interesting observation on the liberal vs. conservative issue
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1378227,00.html
>>
>
> That requires a subscription.
Ok I have copied the article


The Sunday Times



November 28, 2004

Comment: Andrew Sullivan: Where the Bible
bashers are sinful and the liberals pure



When America sat down last week for its annual
rite of national Thanksgiving, some would argue that two different nations
celebrated: upright, moral, traditional red America and the dissolute,
liberal blue states clustered on the periphery of the heartland. The truth
is much more complicated and interesting.
Take two iconic states: Texas and
Massachusetts. In some ways they were the two states competing in the last
election. One is the home of Harvard, gay marriage, high taxes and social
permissiveness.



The other is Bush country, solidly Republican,
traditional and gun-toting. Massachusetts voted for John Kerry over George W
Bush 62% to 37%; Texas voted for Bush over Kerry 61% to 38%.

Ask yourself a simple question: which state
has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election,
with Massachusetts’ gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state
decadence and moral decay. But in fact Massachusetts has the lowest divorce
rate in the country at 2.4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants. Texas, which
until recently made private gay sex a crime, has a divorce rate of 4.1.

A fluke? Not at all. The states with the
highest divorce rates are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia,
Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas. The states
with the lowest divorce rates are: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New
Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Vermont.

Every one of the high divorce rate states went
for Bush. Every one of the low divorce rate states went for Kerry. The Bible
Belt divorce rate is roughly 50% higher than the national average.

Some of this discrepancy can be accounted for
by the fact that couples tend to marry younger in the Bible Belt and many do
not have the maturity to know what they are getting into. There is some
correlation, too, between rates of college education and stable marriages,
with the Bible Belt lagging behind a highly educated state such as
Massachusetts.

The irony still holds, however. Those parts of
America that most fiercely uphold what they believe are traditional values
are not those parts where traditional values are healthiest. Hypocrisy?
Perhaps. A more insightful explanation is that socially troubled communities
cling to absolutes in the abstract because they cannot live up to them in
practice.

Doesn’t being born again help to bring down
divorce rates? Jesus was clear about divorce, declaring it a sin unless
adultery was involved. A recent study found no measurable difference in
divorce rates between those who are “born again” and those who are not; 29%
of Baptists have been divorced, compared with 21% of Catholics. Moreover, a
staggering 23% of married born agains have been divorced twice or more.

Teenage births? Again, the contrast is
striking. In a state such as Texas where the religious right is strong and
the rhetoric against teenage sex is gale-force strong, teen births as a
percentage of all births are 16.1%. In liberal, secular Massachusetts they
are 7.4%, less than half.

Marriage itself is less popular in Texas than
in Massachusetts. In Texas the proportion of people unmarried is 32.4%; in
Massachusetts it is 26.8%. So even with a higher marriage rate,
Massachusetts has a divorce rate almost half of its “conservative” rival.

Take abortion. America is one of the few
western countries where the legality of abortion is still ferociously
disputed. It is a country where the religious right is arguably the
strongest single voting bloc and in which abortion is a constant feature of
cultural politics.

Compare it with a country such as Holland,
perhaps the epitome of social liberalism. Which country has the highest rate
of abortion? It is not even close. America has a rate of 21 abortions per
1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. Holland has a rate of 6.8. Americans, in
other words, have three times as many abortions as the Dutch. Remind me
again: which country is the most socially conservative?

Even a cursory look at the leading members of
the forces of social conservatism in America reveals the same pattern. Rush
Limbaugh, the top conservative talk-radio host, has had three divorces and
an addiction to painkillers. Bill O’Reilly, the most popular conservative
television personality, just settled a sex harassment suit that indicated a
highly active adulterous sex life. Bill Bennett, guru of the social right,
was for many years a gambling addict. Bob Barr, the conservative Georgian
congressman who wrote the Defense of Marriage Act, has had three wives. The
states that register the highest ratings for Desperate Housewives, the hot
new television show, are Bush states.

The complicated truth is that America is a
divided and conflicted country. But it is a grotesque exaggeration to say
that the split is geographical or correlated with Democrat and Republican
states. Many of America’s biggest “sinners” are those most intent on
upholding virtue. It may be partly because they know sin close up that they
want to prevent its occurrence among others.



Some of those states that have the most liberal
legal climate — the northeast and parts of the upper Midwest — are also in
practice among the most socially conservative. To ascribe all this to
“hypocrisy” seems to me too crude an explanation. America is simply a far
more complicated and diverse place than crude red and blue divisions can
explain.
The spasms of moralism that have punctuated American
history from the Puritans all the way through prohibition and now the
backlash against gay marriage are not a war of one part of the country
against another. They are a war within the souls of all Americans.



Within many a red state voter there is a blue state
lifestyle. And within many a blue state liberal there is a surprisingly
resilient streak of moralism. It is this internal conflict that makes
America such a vibrant and compelling place.

The conflict exists perhaps most powerfully within
the Republican states themselves as they grapple with the “sin” of their own
practices and the high standards of their own aspirations. It is worth
remembering that Bill Clinton was a product of a Republican state and that
for more than half his life Bush was a dissolute wastrel from a
Democrat-state family.

These contradictions are not the exceptions. They
are the American rule. If you love this tortured and fascinating country
they are one more reason to be thankful that it still exists.

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:52:50 -0800, wrote:

>On the other hand, as politically incorrect as it may be to say, some of the
>minorities that find their way into the system because of equal opportunity
>requirements, are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get.


Yeah.

And just like some people whose parent can afford to buy them
university educations and get them admitted through legacy programs
and buy them advanced degrees with family connections and they also
are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get, as well.


Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
president.

[[email protected]]

wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:52:50 -0800, wrote:
>
> >On the other hand, as politically incorrect as it may be to say, some of the
> >minorities that find their way into the system because of equal opportunity
> >requirements, are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get.
>
> Yeah.
>
> And just like some people whose parent can afford to buy them
> university educations and get them admitted through legacy programs
> and buy them advanced degrees with family connections and they also
> are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get, as well.
>
> Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
> president.

No doubt about it. So, are you suggest that makes hiring substandard controllers
somehow okay?

[[email protected]]

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:34:01 -0800, wrote:

>
>
wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:52:50 -0800, wrote:
>>
>> >On the other hand, as politically incorrect as it may be to say, some of the
>> >minorities that find their way into the system because of equal opportunity
>> >requirements, are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get.
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>> And just like some people whose parent can afford to buy them
>> university educations and get them admitted through legacy programs
>> and buy them advanced degrees with family connections and they also
>> are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get, as well.
>>
>> Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
>> president.
>
>No doubt about it. So, are you suggest that makes hiring substandard controllers
>somehow okay?
>


Absolutely not.

I'm saying that it we can tolerate incompetence in the highest levels
of government, we should be able to overcome a bad controller or two.

In fact I know of no organization, government or private, that does
not have its share of incompetents.

And a whole bunch of them are straight and white.

[[email protected]]

wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:34:01 -0800, wrote:
>
> >
> >
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:52:50 -0800, wrote:
> >>
> >> >On the other hand, as politically incorrect as it may be to say, some of the
> >> >minorities that find their way into the system because of equal opportunity
> >> >requirements, are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get.
> >>
> >> Yeah.
> >>
> >> And just like some people whose parent can afford to buy them
> >> university educations and get them admitted through legacy programs
> >> and buy them advanced degrees with family connections and they also
> >> are ill-equipped to handle many of the jobs they get, as well.
> >>
> >> Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
> >> president.
> >
> >No doubt about it. So, are you suggest that makes hiring substandard controllers
> >somehow okay?
> >
>
> Absolutely not.
>
> I'm saying that it we can tolerate incompetence in the highest levels
> of government, we should be able to overcome a bad controller or two.
>
> In fact I know of no organization, government or private, that does
> not have its share of incompetents.
>
> And a whole bunch of them are straight and white.

I already defended gays, so I won't bother to repeat myself.

You're right, a bad controller or two can have little adverse effect if there are
sufficent competent, qualified folks to keep them at bay (or, do their job for them).
But, when that is no longer possible because it becomes a lot more than "a bad
controller or two" then you have them landing airplanes on top of another, as happened
at LAX with the commuter and US Air. That person had gained a horrible reputation at
Aspen prior to transferring to LAX. The person got "retrained" and is still a time
bomb.

[Judah]

wrote in
:

<snip>

>>> Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
>>> president.

And both are steering us straight to a disaster!

[ProudSoutherner]

Where would have Kerry steered us?
UN control of our economy??

Judah wrote:

> wrote in
> :
>
> <snip>
>
>>>>Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
>>>>president.
>
>
> And both are steering us straight to a disaster!
>

[Judah]

Good heavens, you're right. No foreign nation has any impact at all on the
US Economy. Except perhaps the ones who have oil.

Screw them all!


ProudSoutherner > wrote in news:a6Rqd.532$Dm2.530
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Where would have Kerry steered us?
> UN control of our economy??
>
> Judah wrote:
>
>> wrote in
>> :
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>>Like, for example chairmen of small oil companies, and sometimes even
>>>>>president.
>>
>>
>> And both are steering us straight to a disaster!
>>