It appears §61.55 has changed for 2007.

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It appears §61.55 has changed for 2007.

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§ 61.55 Second-in-command qualifications.

(a) A person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type
certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in
operations requiring a second-in-command pilot flight crewmember only
if that person holds:

(1) At least a current private pilot certificate with the appropriate
category and class rating; and

(2) An instrument rating or privilege that applies to the aircraft
being flown if the flight is under IFR;

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What is the significance of "rating or privilege" ?

Thanks in advance,
ak.

[Ron Natalie]

wrote:
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> What is the significance of "rating or privilege" ?
>
ATPs don't have instrument ratings, just the privilege
inherent in their certificate.

[Bob Moore]

> (2) An instrument rating or privilege that applies to the aircraft
> being flown if the flight is under IFR;
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> What is the significance of "rating or privilege" ?

I don't have an "Instrument Rating", but my ATP gives me
"Instrument Privileges".

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727 L-188
PanAm (retired)

[RST Engineering]

You are one of the few people I know still around with an Electra type
rating. I wrenched my way through college on that tin whore. Also on the
3-holer, but that was a much nicer airplane.

Jim

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
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> Bob Moore
> ATP B-707 B-727 L-188
> PanAm (retired)

[Bob Moore]

"RST Engineering" wrote
> You are one of the few people I know still around with an Electra type
> rating. I wrenched my way through college on that tin whore. Also on
> the 3-holer, but that was a much nicer airplane.

Yeah....I flew the Navy P-3 Orion for a couple of years ('65-'67) and
then some real old ex-Eastern crap while at Air Florida ('72-'73).

Bob

[RST Engineering]

PSA had four of 'em. Three from the factory and one picked up from the
Brooklyn/LosAngeles Dodgers when they bought a real airplane. I wasn't
around quite yet, but the word around the company is that Fish used one of
them trying to figure out why the wings were coming off (whirl mode).

I **was** around in '66 when we did a 10k inspection on one of them and the
spar under the forward biffy could be peeled away with a knife like a banana
from **** juice leaking onto it.

Jim



"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
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> "RST Engineering" wrote
>> You are one of the few people I know still around with an Electra type
>> rating. I wrenched my way through college on that tin whore. Also on
>> the 3-holer, but that was a much nicer airplane.
>
> Yeah....I flew the Navy P-3 Orion for a couple of years ('65-'67) and
> then some real old ex-Eastern crap while at Air Florida ('72-'73).
>
> Bob

[Roger[_4_]]

On 22 Dec 2006 00:15:45 GMT, Bob Moore >
wrote:

>"RST Engineering" wrote
>> You are one of the few people I know still around with an Electra type
>> rating. I wrenched my way through college on that tin whore. Also on
>> the 3-holer, but that was a much nicer airplane.
>
>Yeah....I flew the Navy P-3 Orion for a couple of years ('65-'67) and

I've probably asked you this before Bob, but did you fly the P-3 out
of Willow Grove?

>then some real old ex-Eastern crap while at Air Florida ('72-'73).
>
>Bob
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Bob Moore]

Roger wrote
> I've probably asked you this before Bob, but did you fly the P-3 out
> of Willow Grove?

Nope....Moffet Field, CA, Naha, Okinawa and Utapao, Thailand.


Bob Moore
VP-46
Combat Aircrew Ten