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Peter Westerkamp-TBRR
February 4th 07, 03:16 PM
Hi Guys,

I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.

Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the AnyWhere
Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.

To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
"ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95 for
the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
upgrade too.

Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.

Have a great day flying!

Peter

john smith
February 4th 07, 05:25 PM
In article >,
"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the AnyWhere
> Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95 for
> the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
> upgrade too.
> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.

Wait for the iPhone.

Paul Tomblin
February 4th 07, 07:02 PM
In a previous article, john smith > said:
>In article >,
> "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:
>> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
>Wait for the iPhone.

The iPhone is currently planned to be closed to third party apps, and as
far as I can tell the only map app bundled will be Google Maps. Since you
can't get a GSM data connection at altitude, that would be pretty useless.

When the iPhone was first announced, I was determined to be first in line
for it, but when Jobs said that it would be closed to third party apps, my
fervour has almost completely died off. I'll stick with my Treo - I can't
get to Google while flying, but I can use CoPilot and FlightMaster.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
I stayed up all night playing poker with tarot cards. I got a full
house and four people died. -- Steven Wright

Clay
February 4th 07, 10:46 PM
On Feb 4, 9:16 am, "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR"
> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>
> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the AnyWhere
> Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
>
> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95 for
> the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
> upgrade too.
>
> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
> Have a great day flying!
>
> Peter

A friend of mine has the Anywhere Map and it is great. His setup also
has XM Weather and the approach plates.
I have flown this system quite a bit and have to give it a big thumbs
up. Like it much better than the Garmin 430 GPS in the Seneca II and
C-210 I fly.

Dave[_3_]
February 5th 07, 12:35 AM
Why?

A growing number, after some careful consideration, think the I-Phone
(IF they get to even use the name) might be a bust..

They should have talked to some users B 4 they built a "touch" screen
into a cell phone, - what fun that is going to be!

Oh well, we will see.... :)

Dave


On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:25:15 -0500, john smith > wrote:

>In article >,
> "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the AnyWhere
>> Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
>> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
>> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95 for
>> the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
>> upgrade too.
>> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
>Wait for the iPhone.

john smith
February 5th 07, 01:19 AM
In article >,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

> When the iPhone was first announced, I was determined to be first in line
> for it, but when Jobs said that it would be closed to third party apps, my
> fervour has almost completely died off. I'll stick with my Treo - I can't
> get to Google while flying, but I can use CoPilot and FlightMaster.

Be patient. As soon as the two-year contract with AT&T runs out, it will
open up. Not to mention that it will be hacked and Skype will be one of
the first apps to be coded.

Paul kgyy
February 5th 07, 01:49 AM
I have AWmap running on an Ipaq with Wxworx and it's a good system.
Setup is a little more kludgy than the Garmin 396, with separate units
that have to talk to each other. If you own, you can just install it
and pretty much forget it, but it would be a pain with a rental
aircraft.

Control Vision has much improved the stability of the system.

I sometimes see used ones on Ebay as people switch to Garmin.

john smith
February 5th 07, 02:13 AM
In article >,
Dave > wrote:

> They should have talked to some users B 4 they built a "touch" screen
> into a cell phone, - what fun that is going to be!

The big question is: "How well will it work with gloves on?"

Paul Tomblin
February 5th 07, 02:21 AM
In a previous article, Dave > said:
>They should have talked to some users B 4 they built a "touch" screen
>into a cell phone, - what fun that is going to be!

Why? I use the touch screen on my Treo all the time. One of the nifty
features of the iPhone is that when you raise it to your ear, the touch
screen turns off so your ear doesn't start hitting buttons.


--
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"You are all but subwidgets in a composite container whose logical tab
group I have registered the traversal order of. I can merely point at you
and your popup dialogue will be unmapped unless XmNautoUnmanage is False."

Newps
February 5th 07, 03:43 AM
john smith wrote:
> In article >,
> "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the AnyWhere
>> Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
>> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
>> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95 for
>> the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
>> upgrade too.
>> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
> Wait for the iPhone.



No third party apps. Verizon turned them down. The iPhone is already dead.

Newps
February 5th 07, 03:44 AM
Paul Tomblin wrote:
> In a previous article, Dave > said:
>> They should have talked to some users B 4 they built a "touch" screen
>> into a cell phone, - what fun that is going to be!
>
> Why? I use the touch screen on my Treo all the time. One of the nifty
> features of the iPhone is that when you raise it to your ear, the touch
> screen turns off so your ear doesn't start hitting buttons.

What's so nifty about that? There was no problem with the Treo's touch
screen.

Peter Westerkamp-TBRR
February 5th 07, 04:28 AM
I looked into FlightMaster as I already have a Treo 650 (Did not realize
there was a Palm OS application for Aviation GPS) what yoke mount seems to
work bestwith the Treo?

Peter


"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the
>> AnyWhere
>> Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
>> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
>> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95
>> for
>> the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an available
>> upgrade too.
>> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
> Wait for the iPhone.

Paul Tomblin
February 5th 07, 12:42 PM
In a previous article, "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > said:
>I looked into FlightMaster as I already have a Treo 650 (Did not realize
>there was a Palm OS application for Aviation GPS) what yoke mount seems to
>work bestwith the Treo?

There is a company at http://www.aeropda.com/ that sells complete systems
with PDAs with FlightMaster and CoPilot pre-loaded, but also sells yoke
mounts separately for Treos and Palm PDAs.

I should mention that I'm not 100% unbiased observer here, because they
send me a few bucks every month to support my waypoint generator.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
Alright. Talk. Don't make me reach over there and pull your still-pumping
heart out from the gaping hole you used to call a chest whilst breaking
your sternum and playing air guitar with your ribcage. -- Tai

Gig 601XL Builder
February 5th 07, 03:59 PM
Newps wrote:
> john smith wrote:
>> In article >,
>> "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>>> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the
>>> AnyWhere Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim
>>> Pocket PC. To me it looks like a great combination of screen size,
>>> ease of use and "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at
>>> $399 for the Axim, $95 for the software and about $85 for a Bt388
>>> GPS. xm Wheather is an available upgrade too.
>>> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>>
>> Wait for the iPhone.
>
>
>
> No third party apps. Verizon turned them down. The iPhone is
> already dead.

I'm not an Apple fan boy but a lot of people said pretty much the same thing
about the iPod.

Newps
February 5th 07, 05:31 PM
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

>>
>> No third party apps. Verizon turned them down. The iPhone is
>> already dead.
>
> I'm not an Apple fan boy but a lot of people said pretty much the same thing
> about the iPod.


Different markets. Everybody's phone is already a music player. The
difference is the interface, that's where the iPod scored. But now they
want $500 for a phone and music player combined. And I'm not allowed to
put other programs on it. No way, no how.

Gig 601XL Builder
February 5th 07, 05:53 PM
Newps wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>
>>>
>>> No third party apps. Verizon turned them down. The iPhone is
>>> already dead.
>>
>> I'm not an Apple fan boy but a lot of people said pretty much the
>> same thing about the iPod.
>
>
> Different markets. Everybody's phone is already a music player. The
> difference is the interface, that's where the iPod scored. But now
> they want $500 for a phone and music player combined. And I'm not
> allowed to put other programs on it. No way, no how.

I agree the price is silly but it won't hold at that price for long and I'm
not 100% sure it is going to be completely locked as a lot of phones are
because it is going to be running a version of the Mac OS.

And you are right that the interface is what made the iPod a hit and since
I've not really touched the iPhone interface yet we'll have to wait and see.

Dave[_3_]
February 5th 07, 10:35 PM
Paul, it takes both hands and eyeballs to operate a touch screen
anything...

You cannot "feel" the buttons when dialing , often with one hand, and
a lot of people do this....

....pick up phone, dial by feel...

I-phone.. may be a "novelity" for those that want to talk to someone
on their I-Pod.

....if there is anything left after the Cisco dudes are finished with
them....

Dave



On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 02:21:01 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

>In a previous article, Dave > said:
>>They should have talked to some users B 4 they built a "touch" screen
>>into a cell phone, - what fun that is going to be!
>
>Why? I use the touch screen on my Treo all the time. One of the nifty
>features of the iPhone is that when you raise it to your ear, the touch
>screen turns off so your ear doesn't start hitting buttons.

smf
February 5th 07, 11:14 PM
I have an Ipaq with map and wx weather. Its a good system. I use it for
weather and a backup gps, I have a 430 for primary. The plates are too small
for me to use on the ipaq. The weather helps out in the summer down here in
s.florida. I also use the ipaq for auto use with garmin software.
I made a mount for my plane that is hardwired for power. Has BT for gps and
wx.
I have a glasairII.




Steve
"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am in the market for a new hand held GPS.
>
> Looking at Garmin, Lowrance and AvMap, but just recently found the
> AnyWhere Map Software, with using a BlueTooth GPS and Dell Axim Pocket PC.
>
> To me it looks like a great combination of screen size, ease of use and
> "ugradebility". Cost certainly not bad either at $399 for the Axim, $95
> for the software and about $85 for a Bt388 GPS. xm Wheather is an
> available upgrade too.
>
> Certainly would appreciate some feed back from users.
>
> Have a great day flying!
>
> Peter
>

Bruce McFadden
February 6th 07, 02:52 AM
I use the Anywhere system with an HP4700, and I have no complaints.
Anywhere has just released a new update version which is great. Approach
Pocket Plates are nice, but a bit small... I just use them as back up.
Always connects easily. Just great for another level of situational
awareness with my 430 and MFD.

I also own a Dell X51v. I have had lots of problems with the WiFi., to the
extent that Dell has replaced it... it's still not as good and the HP4700.
I have not used Blue tooth on the Axim, but I wouldn't take a chance using
it for my Anywhere.

My advice: Ipaq or HP
--

Bruce McFadden Birmingham, AL
PA32-260 N5594J


Patrick Henry --"Those that beat their swords into plowshares will do the
plowing for those that don't!!

Newps
February 6th 07, 04:08 AM
I put a few hundred hours on my Axim X50v and X51v. Never had a problem
with the bluetooth. Or the WiFi for that matter. But using a PDA in
the cockpit is cumbersome at best. A handheld is far better.




Bruce McFadden wrote:
> I use the Anywhere system with an HP4700, and I have no complaints.
> Anywhere has just released a new update version which is great. Approach
> Pocket Plates are nice, but a bit small... I just use them as back up.
> Always connects easily. Just great for another level of situational
> awareness with my 430 and MFD.
>
> I also own a Dell X51v. I have had lots of problems with the WiFi., to the
> extent that Dell has replaced it... it's still not as good and the HP4700.
> I have not used Blue tooth on the Axim, but I wouldn't take a chance using
> it for my Anywhere.
>
> My advice: Ipaq or HP

Gig 601XL Builder
February 6th 07, 02:24 PM
I've got a Razr, a phone that by any measure has been successful. It is
virtually immpossible to dial by feel with it. Hence I use the voice dial
for most frequently called numbers.

What I don't understand is why I can't say "Dial 123-456-7890" and have it
dial that number.

Dave wrote:
> Paul, it takes both hands and eyeballs to operate a touch screen
> anything...
>
> You cannot "feel" the buttons when dialing , often with one hand, and
> a lot of people do this....
>
> ...pick up phone, dial by feel...
>
> I-phone.. may be a "novelity" for those that want to talk to someone
> on their I-Pod.
>
> ...if there is anything left after the Cisco dudes are finished with
> them....
>
> Dave

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