Step climbs

[Mxsmanic]

What is an (ICAO) step climb?

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[Judah]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> What is an (ICAO) step climb?

Check the Sim Groups, the answer is there:

http://tinyurl.com/373ecy

[Kingfish]

On Feb 27, 7:56 am, Judah > wrote:
> Mxsmanic > wrote :
>
> > What is an (ICAO) step climb?
>
> Check the Sim Groups, the answer is there:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/373ecy

Google works pretty well too

[A Guy Called Tyketto]

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In rec.aviation.piloting Kingfish > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 7:56 am, Judah > wrote:
>> Mxsmanic > wrote :
>>
>> > What is an (ICAO) step climb?
>>
>> Check the Sim Groups, the answer is there:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/373ecy
>
> Google works pretty well too

But we already know that Mx won't do a search anywhere for
documentation that clearly define things such as this, even if they
come from the governing body whose jurisdiction that question is under.
Also, even if we give him links to the documentation, he questions the
links let alone argues that the documentation is wrong. The Dilbert
Rule applies:

"Never argue with an idiot. They'll drop you down to their
level, then beat you with experience."

Definitely applies to Mx.

BL.
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[Mxsmanic]

Judah writes:

> Check the Sim Groups, the answer is there:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/373ecy

Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly interesting.
I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.

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[Kingfish]

On Feb 27, 4:22 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Judah writes:
> > Check the Sim Groups, the answer is there:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/373ecy
>
> Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly interesting.
> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
> tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>

And, by default, sim-only pilots would know even less?

[BDS[_2_]]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote

> Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly
interesting.
> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
> tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.

Fer cryin' out loud, it's "spam can" you knucklehead!

Reminds me of a guy at work who always says "it's a tough road to hoe".

BDS

[Mxsmanic]

Kingfish writes:

> And, by default, sim-only pilots would know even less?

No. The people who know most about flying jet airliners are the pilots of
those airliners. But sim pilots of jet airliners are likely to know a lot
more about them than real-world pilots who fly only tin cans. Airliners are a
whole different world, and it is clear that many pilots here have never gone
anywhere near that world. Some of their comments about flying reveal how
little they know about other types of flying besides their own.

In many respects, a PC simulator is closer to a real airliner than a small GA
aircraft is. Someone who is familiar only with the latter is thus at a
disadvantage when it comes to discussing many aspects of flying large
aircraft.

And the reason for more airline pilots simming is easy enough to understand.
Pilots of large airliners naturally tend to enjoy flying them, but they can't
possibly afford to buy one of their own. So a good compromise is to use a
simulator. If they need the wind in their hair, they can fly a tin can, but
if they want to enjoy the procedural and other aspects of flying an airliner,
they don't have much choice other than simulation. The best simulations on a
PC, though, are now pretty good, better than many here seem to realize. This
is especially true if you are not a thrillseeker and you don't need the wind
in your hair or the threat of death to be happy. (I certainly hope that there
aren't too many airline pilots who fly because they are afraid of dying!)

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[Mxsmanic]

BDS writes:

> Fer cryin' out loud, it's "spam can" you knucklehead!

Spam can, tin can ... whatever. Any aircraft that you can tow by hand.

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[Rip]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> BDS writes:
>
>
>>Fer cryin' out loud, it's "spam can" you knucklehead!
>
>
> Spam can, tin can ... whatever. Any aircraft that you can tow by hand.
>
Anthony, you're so clueless that you can't even use a mild insult
correctly.

[TxSrv]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups.
> I can see why tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about
> step climbs.

Keep up the arrogant insults. Then you can whine about
personal attacks.

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[Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]]

BDS wrote:
> Fer cryin' out loud, it's "spam can" you knucklehead!
>
> Reminds me of a guy at work who always says "it's a tough road to hoe".


Around here Wilkinson Blvd is a tough road to ho. Cops everywhere.




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[BT]

> I can see why tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>
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A very poor assumption.

BT

[GrtArtiste]

On Feb 27, 4:22 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:

> Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly interesting.
> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
> tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>
Oh God...I can see it now...This is the beginning of my nightmare:

It is midsummer. I'm departing KLAX on a fully loaded 747 at 1800 PDT
for an evening flight into KSTL There are thunderstorms popping up
along the route. Then, the problem: both pilots are stricken with food
poisoning (hey! it's my nightmare). A frantic call goes out from the
head flight attendant---Is there a pilot on board!!! There are only
two: a GA pilot who has logged 300 hours total, 120 IFR in a C182 and
a student pilot who just had his first solo flight last week in an old
Cherokee. Then...this humoron stands up and says: "I've flown 100
hours in a 747 simluator". So...who gets to sit in the left seat in a
desparate gamble to save all their lives? I know who my choice would
be, and I know who I would not choose.

GrtArtiste

[Mark Hansen]

On 02/27/07 15:19, BT wrote:
>> I can see why tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>>
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>
> A very poor assumption.
>
> BT
>
>

Actually, MX always asserts that each person who does not answer his
question, does so because they do not know the answer.

I think it's his childish way of trying to goat folks into answering
him ;-\

[Mark Hansen]

On 02/27/07 15:24, GrtArtiste wrote:
> On Feb 27, 4:22 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>
>> Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly interesting.
>> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
>> tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>>
> Oh God...I can see it now...This is the beginning of my nightmare:
>
> It is midsummer. I'm departing KLAX on a fully loaded 747 at 1800 PDT
> for an evening flight into KSTL There are thunderstorms popping up
> along the route. Then, the problem: both pilots are stricken with food
> poisoning (hey! it's my nightmare). A frantic call goes out from the
> head flight attendant---Is there a pilot on board!!! There are only
> two: a GA pilot who has logged 300 hours total, 120 IFR in a C182 and
> a student pilot who just had his first solo flight last week in an old
> Cherokee. Then...this humoron stands up and says: "I've flown 100
> hours in a 747 simluator". So...who gets to sit in the left seat in a
> desparate gamble to save all their lives? I know who my choice would
> be, and I know who I would not choose.
>
> GrtArtiste
>

We'd have to choose Ted Stryker! ;-)
Stryker?!? ... Stryker?!? ... Stryker!!!

[Jon Kraus]

I bet they had the fish huh.....

GrtArtiste wrote:
> Then, the problem: both pilots are stricken with food
> poisoning (hey! it's my nightmare).
>

[Jon Kraus]

<<MXIdiot wrote >>
>>
>>Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly interesting.
>>I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
>>tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>>

and yet he asks the question in here anyway. What a freakn' moron.....

[Mxsmanic]

TxSrv writes:

> Keep up the arrogant insults.

It's neither arrogant nor an insult. It's just an observation.

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[Mxsmanic]

BT writes:

> A very poor assumption.

Maybe the only pilots in this group also happen to be the only pilots who
don't know what a step climb is, then.

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[Mxsmanic]

GrtArtiste writes:

> It is midsummer. I'm departing KLAX on a fully loaded 747 at 1800 PDT
> for an evening flight into KSTL There are thunderstorms popping up
> along the route. Then, the problem: both pilots are stricken with food
> poisoning (hey! it's my nightmare). A frantic call goes out from the
> head flight attendant---Is there a pilot on board!!! There are only
> two: a GA pilot who has logged 300 hours total, 120 IFR in a C182 and
> a student pilot who just had his first solo flight last week in an old
> Cherokee. Then...this humoron stands up and says: "I've flown 100
> hours in a 747 simluator". So...who gets to sit in the left seat in a
> desparate gamble to save all their lives? I know who my choice would
> be, and I know who I would not choose.

Since you need two pilots to fly a 747, you must choose two people. I'd pick
the sim pilot and the GA pilot with the IFR experience. Make the sim pilot
PIC, and make the GA pilot FO. It's not necessary to pick a PF because you
can fly and land with full automation.

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[Tim]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> TxSrv writes:
>
>
>>Keep up the arrogant insults.
>
>
> It's neither arrogant nor an insult. It's just an observation.
>

You're a ****tard.

You've never even towed a spam can.

jackass.

[Mxsmanic]

Tim writes:

> You're a ****tard.
>
> You've never even towed a spam can.
>
> jackass.

I'm unable to find a definition of a step climb in your post. Perhaps part of
it was lost by the server.

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[GrtArtiste]

On Feb 27, 7:39 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:

> Since you need two pilots to fly a 747, you must choose two people. I'd pick
> the sim pilot and the GA pilot with the IFR experience. Make the sim pilot
> PIC, and make the GA pilot FO. It's not necessary to pick a PF because you
> can fly and land with full automation.

This response in no way surprises me. Does it surprise anyone else? I
didn't think so.

Of course you don't need two pilots to fly a 747. I've seen it done.
Charlton Heston did it in Airport '75. What-you say? That's not real
life-you say? pot-kettle-black.

GrtArtiste

[Tony]

We are as a group clearly not worthy of your postings. It's a sign of
very poor judgement on your part to ask questions in a forum where you
don't get the quality of responses you obviously deserve, so why don't
you let us go play with our little airplanes and go away?




On Feb 27, 7:37 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> BT writes:
> > A very poor assumption.
>
> Maybe the only pilots in this group also happen to be the only pilots who
> don't know what a step climb is, then.
>
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[Mxsmanic]

Tony writes:

> We are as a group clearly not worthy of your postings. It's a sign of
> very poor judgement on your part to ask questions in a forum where you
> don't get the quality of responses you obviously deserve, so why don't
> you let us go play with our little airplanes and go away?

It has nothing to do with worthiness. Judgements of worth are for people with
ego problems.

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[Mxsmanic]

GrtArtiste writes:

> Of course you don't need two pilots to fly a 747.

In an emergency, you can fly with one. But it's better with two, and you
really only need one person who can follow instructions. It a question of
needing more than two hands for certain procedures.

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[Peter Dohm]

>
> We'd have to choose Ted Stryker! ;-)
> Stryker?!? ... Stryker?!? ... Stryker!!!

ROFL, Thanks for the reminder!

[Not4wood]

Also at the same time he will answer questions that he doesnt know the
answer or will copy an answer that was posted and try to take credit for it.

Not4wood



"Mark Hansen" > wrote in message
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> On 02/27/07 15:19, BT wrote:
>>> I can see why tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>>>
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>>
>> A very poor assumption.
>>
>> BT
>>
>>
>
> Actually, MX always asserts that each person who does not answer his
> question, does so because they do not know the answer.
>
> I think it's his childish way of trying to goat folks into answering
> him ;-\

[Kingfish]

On Feb 27, 9:02 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:

>
> In an emergency, you can fly with one. But it's better with two, and you
> really only need one person who can follow instructions. It a question of
> needing more than two hands for certain procedures.
>


Okay, I call bull**** here...

MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
pilot?? And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"... The
gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
orangutan arms to reach it I think. The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for
a reason... Besides the fact it's on the type certificate... As far as
using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter) would have no
idea how to load and arm the approach. That argument doesn't even
begin to make sense.

[Mike Young]

"BDS" > wrote in message
t...
>
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote
>
>> Thanks! The explanation of Concorde operations is particularly
> interesting.
>> I guess there are more airline pilots on the sim groups. I can see why
>> tin-can pilots wouldn't know anything about step climbs.
>
> Fer cryin' out loud, it's "spam can" you knucklehead!
>
> Reminds me of a guy at work who always says "it's a tough road to hoe".

You work with Ellen Degenerate?

[Mxsmanic]

Kingfish writes:

> MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
> pilot??

By studying the systems aboard. Most jet airliners with two-man crews can be
flown by a single pilot, it's just a lot more difficult.

> And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"...

Why not?

> The gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
> orangutan arms to reach it I think.

Not at all. When the FO is the pilot flying, the captain lowers the gear, and
he can reach over and do it with no trouble. I've seen him do it. I've sat
in the cockpit myself. It's pretty small and both pilots can reach just about
everything that they need to reach (by design, no doubt).

> The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for a reason ...

For redundancy, and because it's a complex aircraft that is a lot easier and
safer to fly when two people are handling it. But it _can_ be flown by one
person, even if that's not a very good idea.

> ... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
> would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.

I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.

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[BDS[_2_]]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote

> Spam can, tin can ... whatever. Any aircraft that you can tow by hand.

Do you have any idea where the name "spam can" comes from? Hint: it has
nothing to do with size.

If you were using the term correctly you would realize that your imaginary
747 is also technically a spam can.

BDS

[BDS[_2_]]

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote

> > Reminds me of a guy at work who always says "it's a tough road to hoe".
>
>
> Around here Wilkinson Blvd is a tough road to ho. Cops everywhere.

Wow! - I think I finally get it!! Funny!

BDS

[Jim Macklin]

It is actual "tough row to hoe" and all those old ladies in
the garden are just hoers.

And Santa says "Ho, ho, ho" because he just saw three bad
girls.



"BDS" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote
|
| > > Reminds me of a guy at work who always says "it's a
tough road to hoe".
| >
| >
| > Around here Wilkinson Blvd is a tough road to ho. Cops
everywhere.
|
| Wow! - I think I finally get it!! Funny!
|
| BDS
|
|

[Kingfish]

On Feb 27, 11:56 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> > ... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
> > would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.
>
> I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.
>

You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
mastered that aircraft. Congrats.

[Mxsmanic]

BDS writes:

> Do you have any idea where the name "spam can" comes from? Hint: it has
> nothing to do with size.

No doubt from SPAM, a registered trademark of Hormel. This in turn is rumored
to be a contraction of "spiced ham."

> If you were using the term correctly you would realize that your imaginary
> 747 is also technically a spam can.

I was using the term tin can, meaning a light, flimsy, primitive aircraft.

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[Mxsmanic]

Kingfish writes:

> You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
> disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
> Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
> mastered that aircraft. Congrats.

Clearly, you're not familiar with the procedures in question, or you would not
be so surprised when I saw that I know them. Engaging autoland, for example,
requires pressing only a single button.

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[LJ Blodgett]

mxsmanic,why not buy a $10 book that has all your answers? also the
far/aim book will tell you more than you'll want to know. LJ

Mxsmanic wrote:
> BDS writes:
>
>
>>Do you have any idea where the name "spam can" comes from? Hint: it has
>>nothing to do with size.
>
>
> No doubt from SPAM, a registered trademark of Hormel. This in turn is rumored
> to be a contraction of "spiced ham."
>
>
>>If you were using the term correctly you would realize that your imaginary
>>747 is also technically a spam can.
>
>
> I was using the term tin can, meaning a light, flimsy, primitive aircraft.
>

[Mxsmanic]

LJ Blodgett writes:

> mxsmanic,why not buy a $10 book that has all your answers? also the
> far/aim book will tell you more than you'll want to know. LJ

I have the book. It doesn't have all the answers.

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[TxSrv]

Mxsmanic wrote:
>> mxsmanic,why not buy a $10 book that has all your answers? also the
>> far/aim book will tell you more than you'll want to know. LJ
>
> I have the book. It doesn't have all the answers.

That's because it's written for actual, experienced pilots,
not self-avowed experts trained on a PC game.

F--

[EridanMan]

On Feb 28, 2:42 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> LJ Blodgett writes:
> > mxsmanic,why not buy a $10 book that has all your answers? also the
> > far/aim book will tell you more than you'll want to know. LJ
>
> I have the book. It doesn't have all the answers.
>
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I think the most infuriating thing to most of us is that a great
majority of your questions (especially this one), could have been
answered by taking 3 seconds to type "step climb" into Google (I just
checked).

I understand you're looking for knowledge... do you understand that
your manner chafes most of the individuals on this board? You could
have saved us all a great deal of frustration and headache had you
taken the few moments necessary to look up this information on your
own.

I understand this is against your nature, but I don't care how old you
are, its time you began to learn empathy.

[Not4wood]

MXs Lunatic; asks another pointless or meaningless question.

Your question is meaningless to us.

Not4wood

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
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> What is an (ICAO) step climb?
>
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[Not4wood]

MXs Lunatic spews forth his nonsense again.


Manic your questions and answers are meaningless here.

Not4wood


"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Tony writes:
>
>> We are as a group clearly not worthy of your postings. It's a sign of
>> very poor judgement on your part to ask questions in a forum where you
>> don't get the quality of responses you obviously deserve, so why don't
>> you let us go play with our little airplanes and go away?
>
> It has nothing to do with worthiness. Judgements of worth are for people
> with
> ego problems.
>
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[Not4wood]

MXs Lunatic spews forth his particular sim of life.

MX your questions and answers are meaningless to us.


Not4wood

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Kingfish writes:
>
>> MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
>> pilot??
>
> By studying the systems aboard. Most jet airliners with two-man crews can
> be
> flown by a single pilot, it's just a lot more difficult.
>
>> And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"...
>
> Why not?
>
>> The gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
>> orangutan arms to reach it I think.
>
> Not at all. When the FO is the pilot flying, the captain lowers the gear,
> and
> he can reach over and do it with no trouble. I've seen him do it. I've
> sat
> in the cockpit myself. It's pretty small and both pilots can reach just
> about
> everything that they need to reach (by design, no doubt).
>
>> The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for a reason ...
>
> For redundancy, and because it's a complex aircraft that is a lot easier
> and
> safer to fly when two people are handling it. But it _can_ be flown by
> one
> person, even if that's not a very good idea.
>
>> ... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
>> would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.
>
> I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.
>
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[Mxsmanic]

TxSrv writes:

> That's because it's written for actual, experienced pilots ...

No, that's because it is incomplete, like all information sources.

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[Mxsmanic]

EridanMan writes:

> I think the most infuriating thing to most of us is that a great
> majority of your questions (especially this one), could have been
> answered by taking 3 seconds to type "step climb" into Google (I just
> checked).

That is arguably true of every single question asked on this newsgroup, so
that cannot be what infuriates you, because you are not infuriated by
questions asked by others. Try again.

> I understand you're looking for knowledge... do you understand that
> your manner chafes most of the individuals on this board?

It bothers some people, but that is their problem, not mine. I'm interested
in discussing and learning about aviation, not making friends.

> You could
> have saved us all a great deal of frustration and headache had you
> taken the few moments necessary to look up this information on your
> own.

See above.

> I understand this is against your nature, but I don't care how old you
> are, its time you began to learn empathy.

Maturity does not suffice?

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[EridanMan]

> That is arguably true of every single question asked on this newsgroup,

Others have a better understanding empathy and tact than yourself.

> so that cannot be what infuriates you, because you are not infuriated by
> questions asked by others.

That should only be further hint to you that there is something about
your manner which seriously clashes with this community.

> Try again.

Case in point.

> It bothers some people, but that is their problem, not mine.

So you see this forum as nothing more than a playground to exploit to
get your needs met, not as a community of fellow human beings who
share some of your interests...

Classic Sociopathic mindset.

> I'm interested in discussing and learning about aviation, not making friends.

And it has never struck you for a second that through a bit of tact
and empathy might not have driven away those of us who were initially
eager to assist you?

> Maturity does not suffice?

I would suggest that the level of animosity directed towards you on
this and many other forums you participate might suggest that your
definition of maturity does not suffice, no.

[Mxsmanic]

EridanMan writes:

> So you see this forum as nothing more than a playground to exploit to
> get your needs met, not as a community of fellow human beings who
> share some of your interests...

A resource, rather than a playground. No, I don't see it as a community.
People who treat mere newsgroups as communities may have some unresolved
issues. Not every venue for human interaction has to turn into a social club.

> Classic Sociopathic mindset.

Were I to make a similar proclamation about aviation, you'd criticize me for
not being a credentialed expert in the field. What are your credentials for
diagnosing psychological problems?

> And it has never struck you for a second that through a bit of tact
> and empathy might not have driven away those of us who were initially
> eager to assist you?

The ones who are driven away don't represent much of a loss. They tend to be
people with large egos that are unsupported by their knowledge bases or
intellect; blowhards who like to sound like experts but are not. They either
cannot answer my questions, or they give the wrong answers.

People who are smart, and not insecure, and reasonably mature, and
knowledgeable on the subject in question will answer without the knee-jerk
emotional response of the group described above, and they will not be driven
away. They are sometimes hard to hear above the background noise created by
the first group, they they are usually there, somewhere.

> I would suggest that the level of animosity directed towards you on
> this and many other forums you participate might suggest that your
> definition of maturity does not suffice, no.

Animosity is not characteristic of maturity. What animosity have I manifested
in return for this hostility?

More importantly, why are so many posts discussing me, and not aviation? I
wish I could discuss aviation more, and me less.

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[Gary[_2_]]

On Feb 28, 11:37 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> More importantly, why are so many posts discussing me, and not aviation? I
> wish I could discuss aviation more, and me less.

We wish you could, too.

[Mxsmanic]

Gary writes:

> We wish you could, too.

Every thread I have started has discussed aviation.

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[Kingfish]

On Feb 28, 4:17 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Kingfish writes:
> > You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
> > disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
> > Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
> > mastered that aircraft. Congrats.
>
> Clearly, you're not familiar with the procedures in question, or you would not
> be so surprised when I saw that I know them. Engaging autoland, for example,
> requires pressing only a single button.

You're right, I'm not. I don't fly a 747, I fly a Pilatus. But I'm not
trying to convince people that I actually know how to operate a 747 AP
based only on experience gained from a MS simulator.

[Mxsmanic]

Kingfish writes:

> You're right, I'm not. I don't fly a 747, I fly a Pilatus.

I'm familiar with the procedures, however. If you wish, I can explain them to
you.

> But I'm not trying to convince people that I actually know how
> to operate a 747 AP based only on experience gained from a MS simulator.

Since you know nothing of the topic by your own admission, what you are trying
to do isn't terribly relevant.

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[Thomas Borchert]

Mxsmanic,

> Maturity does not suffice?
>

It probably would, yes. What's that got to do with your behaviour?

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[Thomas Borchert]

EridanMan,

> I understand you're looking for knowledge...
>

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? That's the last thing MX
is looking for. If he were, he'd take a more efficient route to get it.

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[Darkwing]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> EridanMan writes:
>
>> So you see this forum as nothing more than a playground to exploit to
>> get your needs met, not as a community of fellow human beings who
>> share some of your interests...
>
> A resource, rather than a playground. No, I don't see it as a community.
> People who treat mere newsgroups as communities may have some unresolved
> issues. Not every venue for human interaction has to turn into a social
> club.
>
>> Classic Sociopathic mindset.
>
> Were I to make a similar proclamation about aviation, you'd criticize me
> for
> not being a credentialed expert in the field. What are your credentials
> for
> diagnosing psychological problems?
>

It is called common sense, something you lack in spades.

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[Tony]

On Mar 2, 11:05 am, "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > EridanMan writes:
>
> >> So you see this forum as nothing more than a playground to exploit to
> >> get your needs met, not as a community of fellow human beings who
> >> share some of your interests...
>
> > A resource, rather than a playground. No, I don't see it as a community.
> > People who treat mere newsgroups as communities may have some unresolved
> > issues. Not every venue for human interaction has to turn into a social
> > club.
>
> >> Classic Sociopathic mindset.
>
> > Were I to make a similar proclamation about aviation, you'd criticize me
> > for
> > not being a credentialed expert in the field. What are your credentials
> > for
> > diagnosing psychological problems?
>
> It is called common sense, something you lack in spades.
>
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If you want to use more than common sense do a search on "DSM
301.81". It's interesting trying to decide which of the 9
characteristics of a narcissistic personality disorder do NOT apply to
Anthony. Among professional shrinks if at least 5 fit the
classification is considered valid.

Peer judgements, not self diagnostics, are fairly reliable. Re self
judgement, yeah, like a narcissist would admit it.

I wonder why my wife, who is a psychologist, had that funny look in
her eye when I was asking her about this.

Hmmm.