Like heat shrink tubing but not a tube.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I can't use
the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too large. Is there an
equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item and then heat shrink it?

[John Ammeter]

How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local electric
utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in diameter before
being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench handles...

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I can't use
> the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too large. Is there an
> equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item and then heat shrink it?
>
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

John Ammeter wrote:
> How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local
> electric utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in
> diameter before being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench
> handles...
> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>> and then heat shrink it?

About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?

[John Ammeter]

They had all sizes to fit anything from 2" in diameter down to 1/4"...
stop by your local electric utility and ask to talk to the warehouse
supplier foreman. Don't bother calling because the "company" line will
be to say they can't/won't give out any items. The guy in the warehouse
will be much more cooperative. Explain your needs and ask nicely for
his help.

John

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> John Ammeter wrote:
>> How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local
>> electric utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in
>> diameter before being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench
>> handles...
>> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>> and then heat shrink it?
>
> About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?
>
>

[RST Engineering]

Almost all shrink sleeving that I am aware of works on the 50% rule. That
is, it will shrink to 50% of its cold diameter. 4" will shrink to 2".

Jim



"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message

that will allow me to wrap the item
>>> and then heat shrink it?
>
> About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?
>

[Gene Seibel]

On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I can't use
> the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too large. Is there an
> equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item and then heat shrink it?

20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????
--
Gene Seibel KB0NNN
http://pad39a.com/gene/broadcast.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

[Maxwell]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> John Ammeter wrote:
>> How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local
>> electric utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in
>> diameter before being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench
>> handles...
>> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>> and then heat shrink it?
>
> About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?
>

I don't think anyone makes a heat shrink that with support that much
variation. Have you considered a product like *Dip-It* (sp). It is made for
coating tool handles, and is sold by a lot of hardware stores. I guess it
depends on what you are doing with it.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Gene Seibel wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>> and then heat shrink it?
>
> 20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
> that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
> electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
> can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????


Something like that is exactly what I'm looking for.

[Dan Youngquist]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, it was written:

> About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?

I have heat shrink tubing from tiny up to 1" diameter, that I mail ordered
from Harbor Freight. And I have some 2" stuff a friend gave me; I don't
know its source. I would think any electronic parts shop (local or
online) would have at least up to 1" or so.

-Dan

[Gene Seibel]

On Mar 28, 12:08 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
> Gene Seibelwrote:
> > On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
> >> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
> >> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
> >> and then heat shrink it?
>
> > 20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
> > that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
> > electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
> > can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????
>
> Something like that is exactly what I'm looking for.

Here's one that doesn't use heat
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T071/1793.pdf
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Gene Seibel wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
> wrote:
>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>> and then heat shrink it?
>
> 20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
> that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
> electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
> can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????

I may have found it.

http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=740&PLID=123&SecID=59&DeptID=12&PartNo=DXE%2D891010#

[Dan[_2_]]

Gene Seibel wrote:
> On Mar 28, 12:08 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder"
> <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
>> Gene Seibelwrote:
>>> On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>>> and then heat shrink it?
>>> 20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
>>> that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
>>> electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
>>> can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????
>> Something like that is exactly what I'm looking for.
>
> Here's one that doesn't use heat
> http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T071/1793.pdf
> --
> Gene Seibel
> Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
> Because I fly, I envy no one.
>
>
>
>
Aha, F-4 tape :) Check e-bay before you buy from anyone. The stuff
isn't cheap. I gave made some good deals on e-bay. The tape I get from
e-bay is past shelf life but is usually perfectly good. If you are in a
rush try Radio Shaft, it's stocked in most stores. $10 for 3 feet if I
recall correctly.

The other drawback to F-4 tape is it only adheres to itself. Having
said that I use the stuff for many things like between wire bundles and
cannon plug clamps.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Maxwell]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> Gene Seibel wrote:
>> On Mar 28, 8:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>> and then heat shrink it?
>>
>> 20 years ago I worked at a TV station where we had a heat shrink tape
>> that we used to repair camera cables and such. It was like a thick
>> electrical tape that you'd wrap and then heat to shrink. However I
>> can't seem to find anything on the internet today. ????
>
> I may have found it.
>
> http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=740&PLID=123&SecID=59&DeptID=12&PartNo=DXE%2D891010#
>

I think you can get the same stuff at Lowe's, Home Depot and alike. Years
ago when I was working as an electrician, everyone referred to it as
*Bishop*, but I don't know why. I have never used it with heat, but it would
proabably enhance it greatly. It's a thick, rubbery, double stick tape -
that over time and summer heat, simply fuses it self together. I have cut in
to old splices and it appears to be almost solid rubber. It's very workable,
and extremely strechy.

It usually, but not always has the thin PVC film on one side to keep it from
sticking to it's self, but not always. I bought some not more than a couple
of months ago at Home Depot myself. 3M brand I think.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Maxwell wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> I may have found it.
>>
>> http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=740&PLID=123&SecID=59&DeptID=12&PartNo=DXE%2D891010#
>>
>
> I think you can get the same stuff at Lowe's, Home Depot and alike.
> Years ago when I was working as an electrician, everyone referred to
> it as *Bishop*, but I don't know why. I have never used it with heat,
> but it would proabably enhance it greatly. It's a thick, rubbery,
> double stick tape - that over time and summer heat, simply fuses it
> self together. I have cut in to old splices and it appears to be
> almost solid rubber. It's very workable, and extremely strechy.
>
> It usually, but not always has the thin PVC film on one side to keep
> it from sticking to it's self, but not always. I bought some not more
> than a couple of months ago at Home Depot myself. 3M brand I think.

I'll try HD this afternoon. What I'm using in for is to cover the "tail" of
the swaged control wires going to the rudder and elevator. I planned to use
heat shrink tubeing but was thinking so much about putting on the Nico
collars that I forgot about it. It was the first time I'd ever done it.

[John Ammeter]

Ah... now I understand. What I did for that "tail" was to put a second
collar on it so the tail was under the collar.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> Maxwell wrote:
>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>> I may have found it.
>>>
>>> http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=740&PLID=123&SecID=59&DeptID=12&PartNo=DXE%2D891010#
>>>
>> I think you can get the same stuff at Lowe's, Home Depot and alike.
>> Years ago when I was working as an electrician, everyone referred to
>> it as *Bishop*, but I don't know why. I have never used it with heat,
>> but it would proabably enhance it greatly. It's a thick, rubbery,
>> double stick tape - that over time and summer heat, simply fuses it
>> self together. I have cut in to old splices and it appears to be
>> almost solid rubber. It's very workable, and extremely strechy.
>>
>> It usually, but not always has the thin PVC film on one side to keep
>> it from sticking to it's self, but not always. I bought some not more
>> than a couple of months ago at Home Depot myself. 3M brand I think.
>
> I'll try HD this afternoon. What I'm using in for is to cover the "tail" of
> the swaged control wires going to the rudder and elevator. I planned to use
> heat shrink tubeing but was thinking so much about putting on the Nico
> collars that I forgot about it. It was the first time I'd ever done it.
>
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

I may do that on the rest but I had a limited number of collars at the time.
My kit came with exactly the number required. I, of course screwed up the
first one.

John Ammeter wrote:
> Ah... now I understand. What I did for that "tail" was to put a
> second collar on it so the tail was under the collar.

[Maxwell]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> I'll try HD this afternoon. What I'm using in for is to cover the "tail"
> of the swaged control wires going to the rudder and elevator. I planned to
> use heat shrink tubeing but was thinking so much about putting on the Nico
> collars that I forgot about it. It was the first time I'd ever done it.
>

In that situation you might want to consider the black Plasti-Dip. You could
brush on two or three coats depending on the desired thickness.

[[email protected]]

On Mar 28, 5:14 pm, "Maxwell" > wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in ...
>
>
>
> > I'll try HD this afternoon. What I'm using in for is to cover the "tail"
> > of the swaged control wires going to the rudder and elevator. I planned to
> > use heat shrink tubeing but was thinking so much about putting on the Nico
> > collars that I forgot about it. It was the first time I'd ever done it.
>
> In that situation you might want to consider the black Plasti-Dip. You could
> brush on two or three coats depending on the desired thickness.

That is good stuff. I used it on the control yokes. Takes a little
practice.

Bud

[cavelamb himself]

Maxwell wrote:

> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>John Ammeter wrote:
>>
>>>How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local
>>>electric utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in
>>>diameter before being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench
>>>handles...
>>>Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>>>
>>>>I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>>>can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>>>large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>>>and then heat shrink it?
>>
>>About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that much?
>>
>
>
> I don't think anyone makes a heat shrink that with support that much
> variation. Have you considered a product like *Dip-It* (sp). It is made for
> coating tool handles, and is sold by a lot of hardware stores. I guess it
> depends on what you are doing with it.
>
>
>

Or look around for a heat shrink Tape?

There is such a critter...


Richard

[Gig 601XL Builder]

cavelamb himself wrote:
> Maxwell wrote:
>
>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> John Ammeter wrote:
>>>
>>>> How big is what you have to cover? When I worked at the local
>>>> electric utility we had heat shrink tubing that was 4 inches in
>>>> diameter before being shrunk. I used some of it to cover wrench
>>>> handles...
>>>> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I
>>>>> can't use the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too
>>>>> large. Is there an equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item
>>>>> and then heat shrink it?
>>>
>>> About the size of a pencil. Will the 4 inch stuff shrink down that
>>> much?
>>
>>
>> I don't think anyone makes a heat shrink that with support that much
>> variation. Have you considered a product like *Dip-It* (sp). It is
>> made for coating tool handles, and is sold by a lot of hardware
>> stores. I guess it depends on what you are doing with it.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Or look around for a heat shrink Tape?
>
> There is such a critter...
>

That is what I was asking about in the original post. Got a name for it or
who makes it?
>
> Richard

[cavelamb himself]

>>
>>Or look around for a heat shrink Tape?
>>
>>There is such a critter...
>>
>
>
> That is what I was asking about in the original post. Got a name for it or
> who makes it?
>
>>Richard
>
>
>


Google turned up lotso hits.
Here are the top three...

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Food_Industry/Home/Prod_Info/Products/Tapes/Heat_Shrink/

http://www.info-central.org/construction_heattape.shtml

http://www.shrinkit-inc.com/Shrink-wrap-heat-tape.htm

[[email protected]]

What I'm using in for is to cover the "tail" of
> the swaged control wires going to the rudder and elevator. I planned to use
> heat shrink tubeing but was thinking so much about putting on the Nico
> collars that I forgot about it. It was the first time I'd ever done it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Check West Coast Marine, The Sail boat clan use a tape that sticks to
it's self for this - and other things. Works pretty
well.................

[wmbjk]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:30:23 -0700, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:

>Almost all shrink sleeving that I am aware of works on the 50% rule. That
>is, it will shrink to 50% of its cold diameter. 4" will shrink to 2".

Go here http://www.mcmaster.com/, and start at catalogue page 777.
Shrink ratios up to 6:1, colors, clear, thick-wall, wrap-around etc.
Same-day shipping. But that high shrink-rate stuff is pricey.

Wayne

[[email protected]]

On Mar 28, 9:20 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> I need to do what heat shrink tubing would be perfect for but I can't use
> the HST because the end of what I need to cover is too large. Is there an
> equivalent that will allow me to wrap the item and then heat shrink it?

Look here http://www.smallparts.com/ any size you need but a local
electrical supply house will be able to sell you want you need also.