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April 3rd 07, 07:20 PM
Niche auction for aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
with eBay? Your
thoughts?

http://www.aerobid.net

Ron Natalie
April 4th 07, 12:47 PM
wrote:
> Niche auction for aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
> with eBay? Your
> thoughts?
>
> http://www.aerobid.net
>
Probably not unless they actually get some auctions.

What hand did you have in the creation of the site, Sasa?

April 4th 07, 03:08 PM
On Apr 4, 6:47 am, Ron Natalie > wrote:
> wrote:
> > Niche auction for aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
> > with eBay? Your
> > thoughts?
>
> >http://www.aerobid.net
>
> Probably not unless they actually get some auctions.
>
> What hand did you have in the creation of the site, Sasa?

None, just curious... I am a big supporter of niche auctions. I am
also a pilot and love attending real life airplane auctions. I have
been disappointed for many years that nothing along the lines of a
specialized online aviation auction has been established on the web.
In sharp contrast classifieds in this area do great. Look at Trade-a-
Plane - 70 years in existance... When I came across AeroBid I wanted
to see what others thought of it. The idea sounds promising and is
the concept I have hoped would show up all these years. Personally, I
plan on listing a few aviation related items that have been collecting
dust at my house. Only time will tell if this idea will catch on. I
hope that it does. I am looking to buy a Cessna 172 and I only can
find a dozen choices on eBay. I would love to see 100's of Cessnas
172 up for auction. Parts too... Choice is what I consider consumer
freedom...

Newps
April 4th 07, 03:52 PM
wrote:

>>What hand did you have in the creation of the site, Sasa?
>
>
> None, just curious... I am a big supporter of niche auctions.

Yeah, right.



I am
> also a pilot and love attending real life airplane auctions.

I've been to airplane auctions, what's the fascination?




I have
> been disappointed for many years that nothing along the lines of a
> specialized online aviation auction has been established on the web.

Tried and failed.




> In sharp contrast classifieds in this area do great. Look at Trade-a-
> Plane - 70 years in existance...



But what really sells the hot planes today is their web site, by the
time you get the paper version the good planes are gone.





When I came across AeroBid I wanted
> to see what others thought of it. The idea sounds promising and is
> the concept I have hoped would show up all these years.


Tried and failed.




Personally, I
> plan on listing a few aviation related items that have been collecting
> dust at my house. Only time will tell if this idea will catch on. I
> hope that it does. I am looking to buy a Cessna 172 and I only can
> find a dozen choices on eBay.

ebay is a poor place to look for a plane. When I was selling my 182 I
put it on ebay, not because I thought it might sell but simply to get
people to see it. Nobody with three brain cells buys a plane without
looking at it. I had about 2000 different people look at the auction.
It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers. An auction site is primarily
good for the nuts and bolts of aircraft. I have bought a lot of things
off ebay for my planes.

Darrel Toepfer
April 4th 07, 04:15 PM
Newps > wrote:

> It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.

Sold 3 planes there, they have an auction section too...

Newps
April 4th 07, 04:27 PM
Darrel Toepfer wrote:

> Newps > wrote:
>
>
>>It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.
>
>
> Sold 3 planes there, they have an auction section too...

Which proves the point. I didn't know that. Although now that I look
at their site I can't find it.

April 5th 07, 12:51 AM
On Apr 4, 10:27 am, Newps > wrote:
> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
> > Newps > wrote:
>
> >>It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.
>
> > Sold 3 planes there, they have anauctionsection too...
>
> Which proves the point. I didn't know that. Although now that I look
> at their site I can't find it.

Never heard of Barnstormers...

Darrel Toepfer
April 5th 07, 01:59 AM
Newps > wrote:
> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
>> Newps > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.
>>
>>
>> Sold 3 planes there, they have an auction section too...
>
> Which proves the point. I didn't know that. Although now that I look
> at their site I can't find it.

You have to select AUCTION when creating the ad I believe...

I only saw a few in the past few years, perhaps the mistress has removed
that? Maybe not:

http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=160622
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=160428
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=159381
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=157024
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=156793
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=156511
http://www.barnstormers.com/ad_manager/ad_detail.php?ID=154662

Newps
April 5th 07, 04:03 AM
Darrel Toepfer wrote:

> Newps > wrote:
>
>>Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Newps > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sold 3 planes there, they have an auction section too...
>>
>>Which proves the point. I didn't know that. Although now that I look
>>at their site I can't find it.
>
>
> You have to select AUCTION when creating the ad I believe...
>
> I only saw a few in the past few years, perhaps the mistress has removed
> that? Maybe not:


But what good does it do to select auction when creating your ad if the
average looker can't find the auction when he surfs by?

Darrel Toepfer
April 5th 07, 12:06 PM
Newps > wrote:

> But what good does it do to select auction when creating your ad if
> the average looker can't find the auction when he surfs by?

The ads show in the normal fashion (they're in the search functions and
type listings), just has "auction" in it...

xyzzy
April 5th 07, 04:07 PM
On Apr 4, 10:52 am, Newps > wrote:
> wrote:
> >>What hand did you have in the creation of the site, Sasa?
>
> > None, just curious... I am a big supporter of niche auctions.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> I am
>
> > also a pilot and love attending real life airplane auctions.
>
> I've been to airplane auctions, what's the fascination?
>
> I have
>
> > been disappointed for many years that nothing along the lines of a
> > specialized online aviation auction has been established on the web.
>
> Tried and failed.
>
> > In sharp contrast classifieds in this area do great. Look at Trade-a-
> > Plane - 70 years in existance...
>
> But what really sells the hot planes today is their web site, by the
> time you get the paper version the good planes are gone.
>
> When I came across AeroBid I wanted
>
> > to see what others thought of it. The idea sounds promising and is
> > the concept I have hoped would show up all these years.
>
> Tried and failed.
>
> Personally, I
>
> > plan on listing a few aviation related items that have been collecting
> > dust at my house. Only time will tell if this idea will catch on. I
> > hope that it does. I am looking to buy a Cessna 172 and I only can
> > find a dozen choices on eBay.
>
> ebay is a poor place to look for a plane. When I was selling my 182 I
> put it on ebay, not because I thought it might sell but simply to get
> people to see it. Nobody with three brain cells buys a plane without
> looking at it. I had about 2000 different people look at the auction.
> It sold because of the ad in Barnstormers.

That's interesting, I curise Barnstormers sometimes, I always thought
it was geared more towards light sport and smaller planes, wouldn't
have looked for a 182 there. It's defnitely a fragmented
marketplace.

Newps
April 6th 07, 01:54 AM
xyzzy wrote:


> That's interesting, I curise Barnstormers sometimes, I always thought
> it was geared more towards light sport and smaller planes, wouldn't
> have looked for a 182 there. It's defnitely a fragmented
> marketplace.
>

I never even heard of it until about 3 years ago. A guy in the hangar
behind me buys and sells planes all the time. He uses Barnstormers
exclusively. One of you dummies out there bought an Aztec that my
friend bought from a guy in Wisconsin last year. He offered the guy
$25K for the Aztec and the guy took it. The guy couldn't find the keys,
my buddy says who cares, you don't need keys for a twin and flies
off. Brought it back here to Montana, did an AD on the props and sold it
two months later for $75K.

bocadave
April 17th 07, 05:32 PM
On Apr 3, 2:20 pm, wrote:
> Niche auction for aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
> with eBay? Your
> thoughts?
>
> http://www.aerobid.net

Check www.DoveBid.com and go to the AVX or Aviation Exchange then
click the lot catalog to see whats for sale.
There are all kinds of Comercial Aviation surplus on this site.
Major Assets are being sold around the world.

http://www.DoveBid.com

Steve Foley
April 17th 07, 05:41 PM
"bocadave" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Apr 3, 2:20 pm, wrote:
>> Niche auction for aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
>> with eBay? Your
>> thoughts?
>>
>> http://www.aerobid.net
>
> Check www.DoveBid.com and go to the AVX or Aviation Exchange then
> click the lot catalog to see whats for sale.
> There are all kinds of Comercial Aviation surplus on this site.
> Major Assets are being sold around the world.
>
> http://www.DoveBid.com
>

Sale Terms & Conditions:

7. DoveBid shall charge and collect from each successful bidder a 16%
buyer's premium for each sale at the auction, in addition to the purchase
price as bid.

15. DoveBid will announce the removal, or check-out, period on the day of
the auction.

May 4th 07, 09:41 PM
On Apr 17, 11:41 am, "Steve Foley" > wrote:
> "bocadave" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > On Apr 3, 2:20 pm, wrote:
> >>Nicheauctionfor aviation...they just went live... Can it compete
> >> with eBay? Your
> >> thoughts?
>
> >>http://www.aerobid.net
>
> > Checkwww.DoveBid.comand go to the AVX or Aviation Exchange then
> > click the lot catalog to see whats for sale.
> > There are all kinds of Comercial Aviation surplus on this site.
> > Major Assets are being sold around the world.
>
> >http://www.DoveBid.com
>
> Sale Terms & Conditions:
>
> 7. DoveBid shall charge and collect from each successful bidder a 16%
> buyer's premium for each sale at theauction, in addition to the purchase
> price as bid.
>
> 15. DoveBid will announce the removal, or check-out, period on the day of
> theauction.

AeroBid charges only 1%... Here is their fee structure:

http://www.aerobid.net/sitefees.php

I got a free t-shirt for listing an item. For those of you who have
an airplane or helicopter - you get $50 via PayPal for listing it...

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