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M. J. Powell
June 30th 03, 08:39 PM
In message >, Billy
Braddock Jr. > writes
>I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day. This
>is America and by God someone has to come to her defense. I am so sick
>and tired of hearing from all the enemies of this great country,
>foreign AND domestic, that keep postin trash about our nation.
>You got your stinkin resident Nazis that keep admiring 12 years of
>absolute terror that shook the world and all their followers who keep
>hoping somehow Germany will rise again. For those sick *******s I got
>somethin to tell ya and ya aint gonna like it a bit. If you EVER try
>to do it again America is gonna kick the livin **** out of ya for a
>THIRD time. Get that? The FINAL time. My Grandaddy fought in the last
>one and piloted an 8th AF bomber that left the Fatherland in ruins. He
>was a hero. But you what happened during the occupation? Those damn
>Germans treated him like **** whenever they saw his uniform. Stepped
>on his shiny shoes they did. Blocked him from entering shops. They
>even threatened his kid, my Pa. But the occupation forces werent
>allowed to threaten the civilians. Hell, we bent over backwards for
>those evil *******s only to see them get on their feet again. Now,
>Germany wants to backstab us after making promises to help the great
>USA. Sound familiar? You bet. You can't trust a Kraut EVER.
>You also got all these commie sympathizers here that post now and then
>about Mother Russia. Well, I actually been to that ******** of a
>country. Those people are some of the most corrupt assholes on earth.
>The people I personally met actually had the nerve to say that they
>wished the Commies were back in power! They seem to think we Americans
>caused their collapse and robbed them of their greatness. What in
>God's name are they talking about? What greatness? USSR, Russia,
>whatever, has always had a history of brutality. Their people complain
>bitterly about it, yet embrace it. We can't trust those *******s
>either. They are standin in gasoline and ready to light matches. They
>are not our friends. Putin is Putrid if you ask me.
>Then you got your former powers Britain and France adding their 2
>cents worth. I thank them for their periodic help but don't want to
>hear about their glory days. Their concept of freedom is not the same
>as ours. They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
>fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies. America,
>Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
>ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
>with it.
>Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
>people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
>daily basis.
>It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
>about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
>His will.
>What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
>be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
>Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
>Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
>aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
>America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.

Brilliant!
>
>BB Jr.

Isn't a BB a small shot?

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Peter Twydell
June 30th 03, 10:05 PM
In article >, Billy
Braddock Jr. > writes
>I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day. This
>is America and by God someone has to come to her defense. I am so sick
>and tired of hearing from all the enemies of this great country,
>foreign AND domestic, that keep postin trash about our nation.
>You got your stinkin resident Nazis that keep admiring 12 years of
>absolute terror that shook the world and all their followers who keep
>hoping somehow Germany will rise again. For those sick *******s I got
>somethin to tell ya and ya aint gonna like it a bit. If you EVER try
>to do it again America is gonna kick the livin **** out of ya for a
>THIRD time. Get that? The FINAL time. My Grandaddy fought in the last
>one and piloted an 8th AF bomber that left the Fatherland in ruins. He
>was a hero. But you what happened during the occupation? Those damn
>Germans treated him like **** whenever they saw his uniform. Stepped
>on his shiny shoes they did. Blocked him from entering shops. They
>even threatened his kid, my Pa. But the occupation forces werent
>allowed to threaten the civilians. Hell, we bent over backwards for
>those evil *******s only to see them get on their feet again. Now,
>Germany wants to backstab us after making promises to help the great
>USA. Sound familiar? You bet. You can't trust a Kraut EVER.
>You also got all these commie sympathizers here that post now and then
>about Mother Russia. Well, I actually been to that ******** of a
>country. Those people are some of the most corrupt assholes on earth.
>The people I personally met actually had the nerve to say that they
>wished the Commies were back in power! They seem to think we Americans
>caused their collapse and robbed them of their greatness. What in
>God's name are they talking about? What greatness? USSR, Russia,
>whatever, has always had a history of brutality. Their people complain
>bitterly about it, yet embrace it. We can't trust those *******s
>either. They are standin in gasoline and ready to light matches. They
>are not our friends. Putin is Putrid if you ask me.
>Then you got your former powers Britain and France adding their 2
>cents worth. I thank them for their periodic help but don't want to
>hear about their glory days. Their concept of freedom is not the same
>as ours. They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
>fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies.

Yeah, right, like Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, the Balkans, etc.

We gave /you/ /our/ help? I think 1941 was some time after 1939.

>America,
>Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
>ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
>with it.

Tell that to the Sioux, Apache, Comanches, etc.

>Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
>people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
>daily basis.
>It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
>about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
>His will.
>What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
>be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
>Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
>Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
>aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
>America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.
>
>BB Jr.

Isn't it nice to know that the world is going to be saved by such open-
minded and altruistic people?
It would seem that the only good foreigner is a foreigner who will bow
down and worship the mighty American war machine.

You are a plonker of the first order and a total arsehole.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

tim gueguen
June 30th 03, 11:45 PM
"Billy Braddock Jr." > wrote in message
om...
> I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day.

On the Speciality Electronics MK6 Trollometer your post registers a 2.2
trollimetric ratings. You'll really need to try harder.

tim gueguen 101867

Drewe Manton
July 1st 03, 10:37 AM
"Keith Willshaw" > waxed lyrical
:

>
> "Billy Braddock Jr." > wrote in message
> om...
>> I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day. This
>> is America
>
> Not where I am it isnt
>
> USENET is an international forum - deal with it.
>
> Keith

Kinda lost it for me when he started using three letter words like
"God". Of course just the thread title displays a stunning amount of
arrogance and ignorance that makes me wonder why I even opened it. But
it's always amusing to read that kind of thing and think of all those
decent Americans rolling their eyes at Elmer T. Redneck's continued
efforts to undermine their basic humanity. . .

--
--------
Regards
Drewe
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

robert arndt
July 1st 03, 10:56 AM
They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
> >fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies.
>
> Yeah, right, like Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, the Balkans, etc.
>
> We gave /you/ /our/ help? I think 1941 was some time after 1939.

Quit your snivelin you pompous ass. Ever heard of the Arsenal of
Democracy? If it werent for our lend-lease program you people would
all be speaking German. Why you got your asses kicked at Dunkirk and
had to paddle home leavin your guns on the beaches. At home you had a
beaten army and some raggedy Home Guard units with pitchforks ready to
fight (as Churchill boasted) on the beaches, in the fields, etc...
Hell, you almost lost it in the Battle of Britain too. Had those
German *******s kept bombing your airfields, oil tanks, docks, and
production centers you would have eventually capitulated. Instead that
idiot Goering convinced that nutcase Hitler to bomb cities instead,
saving your whiny Brit asses.
>
> >America,
> >Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
> >ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
> >with it.
>
> Tell that to the Sioux, Apache, Comanches, etc.

Hey, we like all nations had to develop too. Thank God we have a
Constitution that can be amended. The founding forefathers knew that
there had to be growth as freedom took hold. In didn't come in one
day. We still have a long way to go but our ultimate goal has been/is
global freedom. We in the USA have done more for this planet than
anyone in history so just tuck that historical bull**** in your
pocket. The only freedom the Sioux, Apache, and Comanches enjoyed was
the freedom to live like barbarians for thousands of years never
accomplishing anything. They had over 500 nations and yet no borders,
movin with the food supply and weather. When a proper introduction
into civilized humanity arrived the poor Indians didn't want to join
the club. Thats their problem and they have had to live with the
consequences. Even today with opportunity abounding the average Indian
prefers to leech off society, leading an unemployed drunk existance.
Wow, what a great people.

>
> >Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
> >people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
> >daily basis.
> >It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
> >about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
> >His will.
> >What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
> >be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
> >Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
> >Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
> >aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
> >America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.
> >
> >BB Jr.
>
> Isn't it nice to know that the world is going to be saved by such open-
> minded and altruistic people?
> It would seem that the only good foreigner is a foreigner who will bow
> down and worship the mighty American war machine.

They aint bowing, just taking hand-outs of foreign aid and begging us
to clean up their dictatorship ridden cesspool of a nation.
>
> You are a plonker of the first order and a total arsehole.

In your own words I believe it would be customary to tell ya to "****
off you bloody ******".

BB Jr.

David McArthur
July 1st 03, 01:21 PM
"M. J. Powell" > wrote in message >...
> In message >, Billy
> Braddock Jr. > writes
> >I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day. This
> >is America and by God someone has to come to her defense. I am so sick
> >and tired of hearing from all the enemies of this great country,
> >foreign AND domestic, that keep postin trash about our nation.
> >You got your stinkin resident Nazis that keep admiring 12 years of
> >absolute terror that shook the world and all their followers who keep
> >hoping somehow Germany will rise again. For those sick *******s I got
> >somethin to tell ya and ya aint gonna like it a bit. If you EVER try
> >to do it again America is gonna kick the livin **** out of ya for a
> >THIRD time. Get that? The FINAL time. My Grandaddy fought in the last
> >one and piloted an 8th AF bomber that left the Fatherland in ruins. He
> >was a hero. But you what happened during the occupation? Those damn
> >Germans treated him like **** whenever they saw his uniform. Stepped
> >on his shiny shoes they did. Blocked him from entering shops. They
> >even threatened his kid, my Pa. But the occupation forces werent
> >allowed to threaten the civilians. Hell, we bent over backwards for
> >those evil *******s only to see them get on their feet again. Now,
> >Germany wants to backstab us after making promises to help the great
> >USA. Sound familiar? You bet. You can't trust a Kraut EVER.
> >You also got all these commie sympathizers here that post now and then
> >about Mother Russia. Well, I actually been to that ******** of a
> >country. Those people are some of the most corrupt assholes on earth.
> >The people I personally met actually had the nerve to say that they
> >wished the Commies were back in power! They seem to think we Americans
> >caused their collapse and robbed them of their greatness. What in
> >God's name are they talking about? What greatness? USSR, Russia,
> >whatever, has always had a history of brutality. Their people complain
> >bitterly about it, yet embrace it. We can't trust those *******s
> >either. They are standin in gasoline and ready to light matches. They
> >are not our friends. Putin is Putrid if you ask me.
> >Then you got your former powers Britain and France adding their 2
> >cents worth. I thank them for their periodic help but don't want to
> >hear about their glory days. Their concept of freedom is not the same
> >as ours. They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
> >fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies. America,
> >Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
> >ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
> >with it.
> >Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
> >people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
> >daily basis.
> >It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
> >about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
> >His will.
> >What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
> >be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
> >Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
> >Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
> >aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
> >America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.
>
> Brilliant!
> >
> >BB Jr.
>
> Isn't a BB a small shot?
>
> Mike

I have a feeling he's more likely to be shooting blanks :-)

M. J. Powell
July 1st 03, 02:38 PM
In message >, David
McArthur > writes
>"M. J. Powell" > wrote in message
>...
>> In message >, Billy
>> Braddock Jr. > writes
>> >I've been watchin you guys and gettin more disgusted by the day. This
>> >is America and by God someone has to come to her defense. I am so sick
>> >and tired of hearing from all the enemies of this great country,
>> >foreign AND domestic, that keep postin trash about our nation.
>> >You got your stinkin resident Nazis that keep admiring 12 years of
>> >absolute terror that shook the world and all their followers who keep
>> >hoping somehow Germany will rise again. For those sick *******s I got
>> >somethin to tell ya and ya aint gonna like it a bit. If you EVER try
>> >to do it again America is gonna kick the livin **** out of ya for a
>> >THIRD time. Get that? The FINAL time. My Grandaddy fought in the last
>> >one and piloted an 8th AF bomber that left the Fatherland in ruins. He
>> >was a hero. But you what happened during the occupation? Those damn
>> >Germans treated him like **** whenever they saw his uniform. Stepped
>> >on his shiny shoes they did. Blocked him from entering shops. They
>> >even threatened his kid, my Pa. But the occupation forces werent
>> >allowed to threaten the civilians. Hell, we bent over backwards for
>> >those evil *******s only to see them get on their feet again. Now,
>> >Germany wants to backstab us after making promises to help the great
>> >USA. Sound familiar? You bet. You can't trust a Kraut EVER.
>> >You also got all these commie sympathizers here that post now and then
>> >about Mother Russia. Well, I actually been to that ******** of a
>> >country. Those people are some of the most corrupt assholes on earth.
>> >The people I personally met actually had the nerve to say that they
>> >wished the Commies were back in power! They seem to think we Americans
>> >caused their collapse and robbed them of their greatness. What in
>> >God's name are they talking about? What greatness? USSR, Russia,
>> >whatever, has always had a history of brutality. Their people complain
>> >bitterly about it, yet embrace it. We can't trust those *******s
>> >either. They are standin in gasoline and ready to light matches. They
>> >are not our friends. Putin is Putrid if you ask me.
>> >Then you got your former powers Britain and France adding their 2
>> >cents worth. I thank them for their periodic help but don't want to
>> >hear about their glory days. Their concept of freedom is not the same
>> >as ours. They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
>> >fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies. America,
>> >Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
>> >ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
>> >with it.
>> >Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
>> >people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
>> >daily basis.
>> >It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
>> >about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
>> >His will.
>> >What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
>> >be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
>> >Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
>> >Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
>> >aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
>> >America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.
>>
>> Brilliant!
>> >
>> >BB Jr.
>>
>> Isn't a BB a small shot?
>>
>> Mike
>
>I have a feeling he's more likely to be shooting blanks :-)

On target!

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Paul J. Adam
July 2nd 03, 12:31 AM
In message >, robert
arndt > writes
>Quit your snivelin you pompous ass. Ever heard of the Arsenal of
>Democracy? If it werent for our lend-lease program you people would
>all be speaking German.

If it wasn't for the rest of the world, the US would have noticed there
was a problem only when central New York disappeared in a mushroom crowd
and Nazi Germany said "we have nuclear weapons and missles to launch
them, surrender or else".

>Why you got your asses kicked at Dunkirk and
>had to paddle home leavin your guns on the beaches.

As opposed to the heroic US military, who were...? Oh, there _was_ no US
military worth the name at the time. Curious that _we_ were fighting,
and you call us cowards: you were hiding behind the Atlantic, and saying
that was wise.

>At home you had a
>beaten army and some raggedy Home Guard units with pitchforks ready to
>fight (as Churchill boasted) on the beaches, in the fields, etc...
>Hell, you almost lost it in the Battle of Britain too.

We _were_ ready to fight, which was handy at the time. The US was ready
to do... what? Pretend the war was far away and not their problem? That
was a _superb_ plan for us in 1938... not!

>Had those
>German *******s kept bombing your airfields, oil tanks, docks, and
>production centers you would have eventually capitulated.

Or they'd have run out of bombers and aircrew, which is more likely.
Both sides had an interest in inflating the value of strategic bombing.

Fundamentally, the Germans never hurt the Royal Navy, and there's no way
to land and sustain an invasion via river barges, when outnumbered 5:1
or worse by destroyers whose owners are willing to lose many of them as
the cost of survival.

The Luftwaffe could have beaten the RAF back and forced them north of
the Thames. So what? They still can't get enough troops and supplies
across the Channel to be useful, not with the Kriegsmarine overcommitted
already to defending the landing force, providing fire support, clearing
mines, hunting submarines _and_ fighting off the British counterstroke
(all in one day without replenishment, too!)

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam

Peter Twydell
July 2nd 03, 07:33 AM
In article >, robert
arndt > writes
>They fought for liberation from oppression only as long as it
>> >fit in their agenda to rule the world or their colonies.
>>
>> Yeah, right, like Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, the Balkans, etc.
>>
>> We gave /you/ /our/ help? I think 1941 was some time after 1939.
>
>Quit your snivelin you pompous ass.

I scarcely think my comments deserve that kind of response. What
snivelin (sic)? Sardonic, perhaps; hardy pompous.

>Ever heard of the Arsenal of
>Democracy? If it werent for our lend-lease program you people would
>all be speaking German. Why you got your asses kicked at Dunkirk and
>had to paddle home leavin your guns on the beaches. At home you had a
>beaten army and some raggedy Home Guard units with pitchforks ready to
>fight (as Churchill boasted) on the beaches, in the fields, etc...
>Hell, you almost lost it in the Battle of Britain too. Had those
>German *******s kept bombing your airfields, oil tanks, docks, and
>production centers you would have eventually capitulated. Instead that
>idiot Goering convinced that nutcase Hitler to bomb cities instead,
>saving your whiny Brit asses.
>>

Thank you for your reasoned and logical thoughts.

Lend-lease only came into effect after you'd taken our money.

The reason we were ever anywhere near Dunkirk is that we had declared
war on Germany to try to stop its expansion. That the BEF were pushed to
the evacuation had nothing to do with the fighting qualities of the
army. Only the BEF was beaten, the rest of the army was in reasonably
good shape. You can put in all the "if Hitler had done this" speculation
you like; the fact is that the RAF defeated the Luftwaffe and destroyed
the invasion barges. The Germans were still mighty afraid of the Royal
Navy, and quite rightly, too.

>> >America,
>> >Great America, has always fought for the freedom of all people. Our
>> >ultimate goal is global freedom and the peace that hopefully comes
>> >with it.
>>
>> Tell that to the Sioux, Apache, Comanches, etc.
>
>Hey, we like all nations had to develop too. Thank God we have a
>Constitution that can be amended. The founding forefathers knew that
>there had to be growth as freedom took hold. In didn't come in one
>day. We still have a long way to go but our ultimate goal has been/is
>global freedom.

Why not let people do things the way they want? If they're doing you no
harm, leave them alone.

> We in the USA have done more for this planet than
>anyone in history so just tuck that historical bull**** in your
>pocket. The only freedom the Sioux, Apache, and Comanches enjoyed was
>the freedom to live like barbarians for thousands of years never
>accomplishing anything. They had over 500 nations and yet no borders,
>movin with the food supply and weather. When a proper introduction
>into civilized humanity arrived the poor Indians didn't want to join
>the club. Thats their problem and they have had to live with the
>consequences. Even today with opportunity abounding the average Indian
>prefers to leech off society, leading an unemployed drunk existance.
>Wow, what a great people.
>
Still killed quite a few, though, didn't you?

They were happy with the life they had. When it was destroyed, they had
nowhere to turn, especially as the land they relied on had been denied
them.

>>
>> >Right now, were sucking dirt and sand in the middle east tryin to help
>> >people who basically had no rights and were just tryin to survive on a
>> >daily basis.
>> >It makes me sick to my stomach to hear the **** some people post here
>> >about the USA. Thank God He has blessed us with a mighty sword to do
>> >His will.

Ah, nice: with God on our side. The Germans did that one too: "Gott mit
uns". Didn't do them a lot of good.

>> >What has all this to do with military aviation? Well fellow Americans
>> >be proud of our American pilots and all the fine aircraft they fly:
>> >Eagle, Falcon, and Hornet; BUFF, BONE, and Spirit; Warthog and
>> >Nighthawk; all carrier aviation; all transports, tankers, and EW
>> >aircraft; and God knows what secret CIA stuff. Helicopter folks too!
>> >America loves you all. Keep doing what is right in a world gone wrong.
>> >

Some of them quite like the Harriers, too.

>> >BB Jr.
>>
>> Isn't it nice to know that the world is going to be saved by such open-
>> minded and altruistic people?
>> It would seem that the only good foreigner is a foreigner who will bow
>> down and worship the mighty American war machine.
>
>They aint bowing, just taking hand-outs of foreign aid and begging us
>to clean up their dictatorship ridden cesspool of a nation.
>>
>> You are a plonker of the first order and a total arsehole.
>
>In your own words I believe it would be customary to tell ya to "****
>off you bloody ******".
>
>BB Jr.

What the hell are you two eating/drinking/smoking to make you such
bitter and narrow-minded creatures? Why the constant outpouring of
hatred and bile?

A reasoned reply is not expected.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

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