Re: Americans propose standing international peacekeeping force

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On 30-Jun-2003, TMOliver > wrote:

> ...Simply attempting to make your stay brief and for the rst of
> us productive, for one who feels that US a/c stationed in the
> UK or bases like Holy Loch had nothing to do with the defense of
> the UK can hardly be expected eat his Pablum without splashing,
> much less discuss naval matters.

and much more pungent wit and brilliant recitation....

Well Said TMO!

Ken Fowler

[Mary Shafer]

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:05:19 -0500, TMOliver >
wrote:

Something that can't be clipped and still be preserved.

You go, dude!

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

"Turn to kill, not to engage." LCDR Willie Driscoll, USN

[Peter Twydell]

In article >, TMOliver
> writes
(Kenneth Williams) iterated.....
>
>
>> So nice of Mr. Rumsfeld to think that one up. Someone should
>> wake that old buzzard up to the fact that we British have
>> been doing it far longer than America has and with far less
>> troops and equipment to supply.
>>
>
>Well, throughout the latter half of the 40s, and the decades
>afteruntil the wall crumbled, we maintained a substantial force
>shielding the UK from the perils of its own (necessary)
>parsimony. I kind of always contemplated that along with their
>hostage role, USForces Europe, were substantial Peacekeepers of
>a peace that the Europeans couldn't (or wouldn't) manage to keep
>for themselves. Onlt the US presence during those years allowed
>the UK to dispatch the occasional battalion to some restive
>backwater conflict.
>
>As for the far longer, I've a photo of my grandpa during his
>days asa "Peacekeeper", 1918 in Germany. Atr least he avoided
>representing British commercial and political interests propping
>up the "Whites" in a variety of scummy Russian harborsides.
>
>
>> Now poor America is being stretched all over the globe and
>> suddenly needs help from everyone else.
>>
>> Welcome to the club.
>
>Hell, lad, we are the club, and the rules changed back in 1945
>(and the winds of change were blowing far earlier, ruffling the
>already tattered, much moth-bitten coat of the mangy old Lion of
>the Scuppered H'aisles.
>
>By Golly, come to think of it, had we not offered them ample
>employment in public service jobs, limitless undiseased 'taties,
>a chance at lace curtains, enlistment in Sherman's band of
>Bummers burning and bankrupting all those puir Southren
>families, a large brick parish on every urban corner, vast
>opportunities to reap political graft, and even a chance at
>Aristocracy, as with the Big K family (or how the Erse co-opted
>Camelot), all those extra Erse would have seized the reins and
>government and commerce throughout the UK and everybody would be
>speaking Irish Gaelic within the sounds of both Bow Bells and
>Big Ben.
>
>>
>> Kenneth Williams
>
>....ahhh, the paranoid insecurity of advancing national
>insignificance, or the inevitable "Leuxemburging" of the UK
>within the EU, bilingual education in Frawg required of all
>kiddies.
>
>TMO

You two deserve each other. What a load of tosh.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

[Darrell A. Larose]

Didn't Lester Pearson get a Noble Peace prize in 1957 for this same
proposal? This is something that Canada has contributed troops to since
the 1960's

[Andrew Chaplin]

"Darrell A. Larose" wrote:
>
> Didn't Lester Pearson get a Noble Peace prize in 1957 for this same
> proposal? This is something that Canada has contributed troops to since
> the 1960's

Not only that, it's also already being done.
http://www.shirbrig.dk/
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Andrew Chaplin
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[ZZBunker]

(J Waller) wrote in message >...
> "Well, throughout the latter half of the 40s, and the decades
> afteruntil the wall crumbled, we maintained a substantial force
> shielding the UK from the perils of its own (necessary)
> parsimony. I kind of always contemplated that along with their
> hostage role, USForces Europe, were substantial Peacekeepers of
> a peace that the Europeans couldn't (or wouldn't) manage to keep
> for themselves. Onlt the US presence during those years allowed
> the UK to dispatch the occasional battalion to some restive
> backwater conflict."
>
> Oh dear you really don't know what you are talking about do you...
> Lets see know, the UK maintained until the 1970's several hundred
> thousand personnel outside of the UK to look after western interests.
> while you guys were messing up in vietnam, we quietly fought a war
> against indonesian communism and won. We fought in hell holes all over
> the world preserving not only our national interest but also that of
> the west in general. We almost crippled our national economy in the
> 1950's paying for defence expenditure, so don;t tell me we were
> parsimonious. The USA felt it in its national interest to keep troops
> in Europe, last I heard you guys were an independent nation, so if it
> was oh so dreadful for you, why didnt you pull out? Could it be that
> your leaders felt that it was in your national interest not to do so?
> No one forced you to stay, you stayed of your own free will and
> nothing more.
>
> I am sick and tired of this saving the world bull**** I hear from
> poorly educated Americans. You did your bit and your economy did very
> nicely from it, we did our fair share of keeping the free world free.

We're tired of saving the world too, since we have to keep reminding
Europe that is was -Europe-, not America, that started saving the
world. So as always we are perfectly willing to sell Britian
both Canada and France at a reasonable Viscount Discount price.
Since we don't won't hear anything more about
either the sinking British Navy, the crumbling French Air Force,
the moron German intelligensia, the Chinese Great Wall Of Nothing,
the Russian pyscho zoo, or the pasley-blue UN Global Economy
as being some sort of unstoppable superpower dynamo.



> End of story.

[ZZBunker]

(Kenneth Williams) wrote in message >...
> Coridon Henshaw )> wrote in message >...
> > Thought this might be of interest...
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > At a dinner in Washington last week, Mr Rumsfeld told
> > defence industry leaders: "I am interested in the idea
> > of our leading, or contributing to in some way, a cadre
> > of people in the world who would like to participate in
> > peacekeeping or peacemaking.
> >
> >
>
> So nice of Mr. Rumsfeld to think that one up. Someone should wake that
> old buzzard up to the fact that we British have been doing it far
> longer than America has and with far less troops and equipment to
> supply.

Well it doesn't really mean all that much, since people
with vastly better qualifications have been interested
since well before Rumsfeld even heard of an idiot
slush company such as the Republican Party.




>
> Now poor America is being stretched all over the globe and suddenly
> needs help from everyone else.
>
> Welcome to the club.

We've always been strected all over the globe.
But we've also never never needed help from everybody.
We believe it should be obvious to Euro ******s,
that we don't need help from jerk's named Stalin, Hilter, Mao,
Bonopart, Hussein, or Bin Laden.

And we eachly obviously don't need help from the
Europeon Moon Company, or Russia's approximations
to Nuclear Reactors.


>
> Kenneth Williams

[pacman]

(ZZBunker) wrote in message

> > Rumsfield and his pals seems quiet these days
>
> Secretary of Defenses have always been quiet.
> That's what's makes them sort of like Congressmen,
> good for a laugh, spare tires, and a vice-president
> once in a while.

I remember a lot of Rummy high profile press conferences during the Afghan war.