Javelin...

[Dan[_1_]]

Looks nice, but could suffer from some of the "Cirrus-like" links
between marketing and safety record. Still, if I had the money, it
would be the ultimate ride. (as long as your kids don't want to ride
along).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1WYWHmbpQ&mode=related&search=

http://www.avtechgroup.com/

They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
that there is only one flying..?


--Dan

[Larry Dighera]

On 5 May 2007 16:32:46 -0700, Dan > wrote in
. com>:

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1WYWHmbpQ&mode=related&search=

Truly awesome! Breathtaking!

I hear Hayden "Jim" Sheaffer's* has a deposit down on one of those.
Pilots like him shouldn't have any problem thinking ahead of an
aircraft like the Javelin. :-)


* http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050523faa.html

[B A R R Y]

On 5 May 2007 16:32:46 -0700, Dan > wrote:

>They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
>that there is only one flying..?
>

Reminds me of a T-33.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
...
> On 5 May 2007 16:32:46 -0700, Dan > wrote:
>
>>They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
>>that there is only one flying..?
>>
>
> Reminds me of a T-33.

Form does follow function, in this case, doesn't it?

2 engines, 2 seat, small, no need for heavy carry capability. Plop! There
it is; almost like a T-33!
--
Jim in NC

[B A R R Y]

On Sun, 6 May 2007 08:41:56 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>Form does follow function, in this case, doesn't it?
>
>2 engines, 2 seat, small, no need for heavy carry capability. Plop! There
>it is; almost like a T-33!

I meant some of the details, like the intakes, and the arches along
the size.

Lots of 2 seat jets with similar capability don't look like a T-33.

[B A R R Y]

On Sun, 06 May 2007 12:45:42 -0400, B A R R Y
> wrote:
>
>I meant some of the details, like the intakes, and the arches along
>the size.
>
>Lots of 2 seat jets with similar capability don't look like a T-33.


What a maroon I am...

I was actually referring to the Javelin resembling a T-38, the trainer
version of the F5.

Hey, _I_ knew what I was talking about! <G>

[Morgans[_2_]]

"B A R R Y" > wrote

> What a maroon I am...
>
> I was actually referring to the Javelin resembling a T-38, the trainer
> version of the F5.
>
> Hey, _I_ knew what I was talking about! <G>

Yeah, I did too, and I wasn't even in your head! I didn't catch the
mistake, either.

Seriously though, given the project's mission, it is not surprising to me
that it came out looking a lot like the T-38. There are not that many
different ways you can arrange things, and make it perform as the designers
intended. I'm sure they did a lot of, "well, what is out there, that does
what we want to do, and does it look cool. It has to look cool!"
--
Jim in NC

[Erik]

Dan wrote:

> Looks nice, but could suffer from some of the "Cirrus-like" links
> between marketing and safety record. Still, if I had the money, it
> would be the ultimate ride. (as long as your kids don't want to ride
> along).
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1WYWHmbpQ&mode=related&search=
>
> http://www.avtechgroup.com/
>
> They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
> that there is only one flying..?
>
>
> --Dan
>

What's the minimum length runway needed??

[Dan[_1_]]

On May 7, 1:37 pm, Erik > wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > Looks nice, but could suffer from some of the "Cirrus-like" links
> > between marketing and safety record. Still, if I had the money, it
> > would be the ultimate ride. (as long as your kids don't want to ride
> > along).
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1WYWHmbpQ&mode=related&search=
>
> >http://www.avtechgroup.com/
>
> > They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
> > that there is only one flying..?
>
> > --Dan
>
> What's the minimum length runway needed??- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Technical features for the Javelin MK-10

Engines: Two - 1,700 pound thrust, turbo-fan Williams International
FJ33-4A-17M
Seating capacity: Two, tandem
Max gross weight: 6,200 pounds
Wing span: 23.25 feet
Length: 36 feet
Height: 10.5 feet
Wing area: 120 square feet
Take-off ground roll (std day, SL, 6,200 lb): 1,800 feet
Balanced field (std day, SL, 6,200 lb): 3,000 feet
Max rate of climb: 10,000 ft/min
Time to climb to 41,000 ft (ISA, std day, 6,200 lb): 13 min.
Cruise speed (ISA, std day, 5,500 lb, 35,000 ft): 0.90 Mach, 525 KTAS,
600 mph
Stall speed in landing configuration (6,080 lb.): 110 KCAS
Approach speed: 132 knots (at max gross weight)
Approach speed: 114 knots (at landing weight)
Landing distance (std day, SL, 6,080 lb, full flaps)
Ground Roll: 2,200 feet
Over 50 ft: 5,000 feet
Landing Distance (std day, SL, 4,575 lb, full flaps)
Ground Roll: 1,800 feet
Over 50 ft: 4,200 feet
IFR Range (M 0.80): 1,200 nm
Endurance: 3.5 hours
Fuel capacity: 280 gallons
Fuel Consumption at mid-cruise weight
Economy cruise (0.80 Mach at 45,000 ft): 75 gal/hr
High-speed cruise (0.90 Mach at 35,000 ft) 109 gal/hr
Certified ceiling: 45,000 feet
Cargo/Baggage: up to 200 lb.
Price 2005: $2.795 million (will be indexed, taxes not included)

[Montblack]

("Dan" wrote)
> Technical features for the Javelin MK-10


http://www.viper-aircraft.com/
Check out these guys

Forget the price, look at those build hours. Wow.


Montblack

[[email protected]]

On May 7, 8:31 pm, Dan > wrote:
> On May 7, 1:37 pm, Erik > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dan wrote:
> > > Looks nice, but could suffer from some of the "Cirrus-like" links
> > > between marketing and safety record. Still, if I had the money, it
> > > would be the ultimate ride. (as long as your kids don't want to ride
> > > along).
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1WYWHmbpQ&mode=related&search=
>
> > >http://www.avtechgroup.com/
>
> > > They've been talking about this thing for a while, but it would seem
> > > that there is only one flying..?
>
> > > --Dan
>
> > What's the minimum length runway needed??- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Technical features for the Javelin MK-10
>
> Engines: Two - 1,700 pound thrust, turbo-fan Williams International
> FJ33-4A-17M
> Seating capacity: Two, tandem
> Max gross weight: 6,200 pounds
> Wing span: 23.25 feet
> Length: 36 feet
> Height: 10.5 feet
> Wing area: 120 square feet
> Take-off ground roll (std day, SL, 6,200 lb): 1,800 feet
> Balanced field (std day, SL, 6,200 lb): 3,000 feet
> Max rate of climb: 10,000 ft/min
> Time to climb to 41,000 ft (ISA, std day, 6,200 lb): 13 min.
> Cruise speed (ISA, std day, 5,500 lb, 35,000 ft): 0.90 Mach, 525 KTAS,
> 600 mph
> Stall speed in landing configuration (6,080 lb.): 110 KCAS
> Approach speed: 132 knots (at max gross weight)
> Approach speed: 114 knots (at landing weight)
> Landing distance (std day, SL, 6,080 lb, full flaps)
> Ground Roll: 2,200 feet
> Over 50 ft: 5,000 feet
> Landing Distance (std day, SL, 4,575 lb, full flaps)
> Ground Roll: 1,800 feet
> Over 50 ft: 4,200 feet
> IFR Range (M 0.80): 1,200 nm
> Endurance: 3.5 hours
> Fuel capacity: 280 gallons
> Fuel Consumption at mid-cruise weight
> Economy cruise (0.80 Mach at 45,000 ft): 75 gal/hr
> High-speed cruise (0.90 Mach at 35,000 ft) 109 gal/hr
> Certified ceiling: 45,000 feet
> Cargo/Baggage: up to 200 lb.
> Price 2005: $2.795 million (will be indexed, taxes not included)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Wow, that's quite the penis extension!