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Mike
July 15th 03, 01:46 PM
France downplays jet swap with Russia
France says recent joint maneuvers in which Russian and French pilots
flew each other's aircraft were not an effort to help Russia join NATO
or the European Union, but simply "in the interest of world peace and
cooperation."
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030714-092731-6790r.htm

IIRC, USAF pilots flew most of the European and Asian Air Force planes
- except the U.S. Navy, hehe.
Mike

Jeroen Wenting
July 15th 03, 07:22 PM
The French have had exchange programs with the USSR since the 1970s when
MiG-23s would visit France and Mirages the USSR.

"Mike" > wrote in message
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> France downplays jet swap with Russia
> France says recent joint maneuvers in which Russian and French pilots
> flew each other's aircraft were not an effort to help Russia join NATO
> or the European Union, but simply "in the interest of world peace and
> cooperation."
> http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030714-092731-6790r.htm
>
> IIRC, USAF pilots flew most of the European and Asian Air Force planes
> - except the U.S. Navy, hehe.
> Mike

tscottme
July 16th 03, 12:08 PM
Jeroen Wenting > wrote in message
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> The French have had exchange programs with the USSR since the 1970s
when
> MiG-23s would visit France and Mirages the USSR.
>

Not to mention their nuclear reactor exchange program with Saddam.

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Yann D
July 16th 03, 01:31 PM
The historical reason is that French pilots flew with the flying regiment
'Normandie' (later Normandie-Niemen) against the nazis in USSRr during ww2.
Due to the great success of this squadron, Stalin allowed the group to get
back to France in 1945 with its YAK3 fighters.
The squadron still exists and flies Mirage F1CT in Colmar Meyenheim. French
pilots and their russian counterparts remained 'friends', even during the
dark days of cold war.
They participate in exchanges with the russians since the 70s and maybe
earlier. A good deal to evaluate russian aircrafts at this time.

Yann



> France downplays jet swap with Russia
> France says recent joint maneuvers in which Russian and French pilots
> flew each other's aircraft were not an effort to help Russia join NATO
> or the European Union, but simply "in the interest of world peace and
> cooperation."
> http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030714-092731-6790r.htm
>
> IIRC, USAF pilots flew most of the European and Asian Air Force planes
> - except the U.S. Navy, hehe.
> Mike

Pierre-Henri Baras
July 16th 03, 02:35 PM
"tscottme" > a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
> Jeroen Wenting > wrote in message
> ...
> > The French have had exchange programs with the USSR since the 1970s
> when
> > MiG-23s would visit France and Mirages the USSR.
> >
>
> Not to mention their nuclear reactor exchange program with Saddam.
>

Comme on Scott, don't be bitter 'cause we beat you to get the contract .....
(grin)
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The Enlightenment
July 17th 03, 05:51 AM
"Pierre-Henri Baras" > wrote in message >...
> "tscottme" > a écrit dans le message de news:
> ...
> >
> > Jeroen Wenting > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The French have had exchange programs with the USSR since the 1970s
> when
> > > MiG-23s would visit France and Mirages the USSR.
> > >
> >
> > Not to mention their nuclear reactor exchange program with Saddam.
> >
>
> Comme on Scott, don't be bitter 'cause we beat you to get the contract .....
> (grin)

US foreign policy is displayed in all its logic in supplying
meaningfull defenses to Taiwan. MICA and Mirage 2000 do the job not
AMRAAM and F16.

tscottme
July 17th 03, 12:54 PM
Pierre-Henri Baras > wrote in message
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>
> Comme on Scott, don't be bitter 'cause we beat you to get the contract
......
> (grin)
> --

I hear the next payment for the reactor might be late.
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Scott
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Saudi Arabia is the enemy, let's stop pretending otherwise.

ArVa
July 17th 03, 02:45 PM
"tscottme" > a écrit dans le message de
...
>
>
> Pierre-Henri Baras > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Comme on Scott, don't be bitter 'cause we beat you to get the contract
> .....
> > (grin)
> > --
>
> I hear the next payment for the reactor might be late.

Really? This is such a disappointment : I thought Mr. Bremer was a too much
ordered and efficient administrator to lose invoices. Well, that's what I
had read in every French newspaper, but I guess they were wrong. Again...

Wait a minute... It's a more than 20 years old story?... The plant has been
destroyed in 1981? The US were also supporting this evil regime in the 80's?
France did kick Hussein's ass in 1991 alongside with the entire planet under
a UN mandate?... The French *people* has nothing to do with it?... Oh, OK
then...

ArVa,
Citizen of France, established circa 1000 AD, official scapegoat of the
United States of America's government by special appointment of His
Republican Highness Donald Rumsfeld.

Tank Fixer
July 21st 03, 05:46 AM
In article >,
says...
> a UN mandate?... The French *people* has nothing to do with it?... Oh, OK
> then...
>

And that Roland III system came from where ?????


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