Avmap 2000c onsale???

[Peter Westerkamp-TBRR]

I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
$1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just to
check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
temporary sale.

Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a release
soon of a 2000x with weather?

I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be obsolete
in months.

Any thoughts?

Peter

[tony roberts]

I bought mine for $695.00 last summer.
They just released a larger terrain avoidance chip with higher
definition map.
The unit won't be obsolete in a few months - even if something new does
come out, if the one you bought still does what you want then it is
doing it's job.
And consider, if we all kept waiting for the latest and greatest, we'd
still be using a slate and chalk!
You have to jump in sometime, and, IMHO, the 2000c is a great place to
jump in.

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

[Jay Honeck]

> You have to jump in sometime, and, IMHO, the 2000c is a great place to
> jump in.

Agreed. The 2000c is the best pure aviation GPS on the market today,
and the price point is excellent.

We've got one, and prefer it to the Garmin 496, which cost
exponentially more.

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Grumman 46U]

On Wed, 23 May 2007 22:44:12 -0400, "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR"
> wrote:

>I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
>$1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
>little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just to
>check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
>temporary sale.
>
>Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a release
>soon of a 2000x with weather?
>
>I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be obsolete
>in months.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Peter



I bought mine about 6 months ago for $695 and don't think it will be
"obsolete" any time soon. It might not have all the features that a
newer model would have when released, but it sure does a fine job for
me just as it is. I use it all the time and have never had a minute's
problem with it.


Michael

[Longworth[_1_]]

On May 23, 10:44 pm, "Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" <>
> Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a release
> soon of a 2000x with weather?
>
> I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be obsolete
> in months.

Peter,
I surely hope that Lowrance will introduce the long-awaited
aviation GPS with weather at Oshkosh this year. Last year, the
salesman told me that they would introduce the unit at S-n-F but it
appeared that they were late. Early this year, I came across some
web postings claiming that he/she was beta-testing the Lowrance GPS
with weather so it looked very promising that such unit would be
available soon.

Whether the 2000 w/o weather is obsolete or not depends on your
need. We have the Airmap 1000 and it serves our navigation need just
fine. We do want the weather capability and will likely buy the new
Lowrance unit with weather (keeping the 1000 as backup). The Garmin
396/496 display is just too small for me. BTW, I would not be
surprise if Garmin introduces a new unit big bigger screen soon.

Tablet PC with SSD for navigation/weather, approach/enroute/
sectional charts display is another option that I will consider. It
has been available for a while but the cost is a bit too high. With
many mfgs (Samsung, Sandisk, Transcend, TDK, Ridata, Ritek etc.)
making 32gb SSD, I expect the price of SSD will come down
significantly in the next few months.


Hai Longworth

[Gilan]

Well if you are worried about having the latest greatest then don't even
bother with the 2000 and just go buy a AvMap EKP IV and then you will have
a great hand held. It does cost a few hundred more than the 2000 but the
AvMap EKP IV screen is so superior to the 2000 I wouldn't consider any other
hand held.
The 2000 is nice and for $700 not a bad deal but looking at them side by
side at Sun n Fun the AvMap is just so much nicer.






Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
See ya on Sport Aircraft group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/





"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote
>I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
>$1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
>little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just to
>check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
>temporary sale.
>
> Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a
> release soon of a 2000x with weather?
>
> I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be
> obsolete in months.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Peter
>

[Dan Luke]

"Gilan" wrote:

>
> AvMap EKP IV screen is so superior to the 2000 I wouldn't consider any other
> hand held.

No weather? No sale.

--
Dan
? at BFM

[Kyle Boatright]

At SnF, I had a nice discussion with the outgoing President of Lowrance. He
indicated that the company would probably have an XM Aviation weather
product out by next year, but he could have been sandbagging. I dunno. He
also said Lowrance would have been first to market with XM weather, but the
parent corporation re-tasked the R&D folks to providing solutions for large
marine users.

KB


"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote in message
...
>I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
>$1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
>little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just to
>check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
>temporary sale.
>
> Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a
> release soon of a 2000x with weather?
>
> I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be
> obsolete in months.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Peter
>

[Dan Luke]

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

>
> Agreed. The 2000c is the best pure aviation GPS on the market today,
> and the price point is excellent.
>
> We've got one, and prefer it to the Garmin 496, which cost
> exponentially more.

A 496 costs $483,025.00?

Wow; I got such a deal!

--
Dan
? at BFM

[Darrel Toepfer]

"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote:

> I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
> $1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
> little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just
> to check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
> temporary sale.

Thats about what we paid over 2 years ago, although without the
terrain...

I'm debating whether to upgrade the terrain/database before OSH or to
wait and see what deals are available there. I'll have some extra 1/2
Gig SD cards along for the trip for that purpose...

Anybody got a good discount location for the terrain + current update
now? Next cycle is: 7/5/2007 - 8/1/2007

I also fly with an Axim/PocketFMS/BT GPS system, thats always current. I
get the weather/winds through that, but it requires internet access
(802.11x) for updating along the way...

[Peter Westerkamp-TBRR]

Just a quick thanks for everyone's responses. I ordered the unit from Gulf
Coast Avionics and I am waiting for delivery. For some reason there is a
manufacturer's backlog.

Someone mentioned the newer chip with better terrain resolution. Here in
Tampa that is not really a big issue, it is weather in summer that is.

Have a great day in the sky!

Peter

"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote in message
...
>I have been looking for a decent, nice size color screen GPS for under
>$1,000. Just recently the Lowrance Avmap 2000c has gone on sale for as
>little as $699! I called one of the dealers (Gulf Coast Avionics) just to
>check if it is a sale or a "close out" and was assured it is just a
>temporary sale.
>
> Is this too good to be true, could it be that Lowrance is planning a
> release soon of a 2000x with weather?
>
> I like the unit but would like to avoid buying a unit that could be
> obsolete in months.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Peter
>

[Montblack]

("Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" wrote)
> Someone mentioned the newer chip with better terrain resolution. Here in
> Tampa that is not really a big issue, it is weather in summer that is.


Tampa, huh?

Question...

How do the depict oil rig platforms on the Avmap 2000c? Anything special?

Just silly curiosity.


P-Mont
(NAC) Necessary Aviation Content
http://www.wbu.com/chipperwoods/photos/passpigeon.htm
MontBlack has gone the way of the Passenger Pigeon

[Mike Isaksen]

"Peter Westerkamp-TBRR" > wrote in ...
> Just a quick thanks for everyone's responses. I ordered the unit from Gulf
> Coast Avionics and I am waiting for delivery. For some reason there is a
> manufacturer's backlog.
>

I assume you mean Lowrance 2000c in your subject line ?!?

Interesting. I've not done research to validate this, but this may be a
nationwide issue. While chatting with the Lowrance rep at the AOPA FlyIn
(Thin tall older fellow, runs the booth at all the shows for the past few
years) a lady came up and complained that none of the avionics vendors in
the tent had the 2000c in stock. He smiled and asked if she'd tried the
internet, then admitted that he'd heard that the supplies may be getting a
bit low. Then another comment about how it was difficult for the factory to
get raw LCD displays at the price and quantity, because all production
sources are retooling for the TV and DVD markets.

I excused myself at that point, but my earlier discussion with him revolved
around "when is weather coming?" To which he did a terriffic verbal tap
dance. Bottom line, it doesn't look good for Osh. He said they are working
on something big to leapfrog ahead of the 2000c, but in the same footprint.
He gave me nothing when I pressed him. My other question was if they planned
to do anything to improve/support the 1000? His answer was quick; they were
committed to color and there was only 81 (or 86, i forget) left in the new
build schedule for the factory. That's it, no more thereafter. He said
there's still lots of 1000 inventory out there, just no more in the new
pipe. The last topic I was on with him, before the lady interupted, was
improvement for in-car use? He dismissed that idea and vaguely pointed down
the tent aisle saying "why would I want a $2000 aviation model when I could
get a $200 talking unit that I won't be afraid to leave hooked up in the
car?" His tone indicated a bit of frustration.

My walkaway impression is that the Marine side of the house may be dictating
the music selection more than ever.

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Mike Isaksen > wrote:
> My walkaway impression is that the Marine side of the house may be
> dictating the music selection more than ever.

You probably know this, but Lowrance has gone/is going through some
mergers and sales. For what it's worth, I drive by the Lowrance plant
in Tulsa semi-regularly - it's on the south side of I-44. For the past
several years, the big sign out front just said "Lowrance Electronics"
with the square-with-L-carved-out logo. Sometime in the past few months,
they changed the sign faces. It has four different names on the sign
now; I think Lowrance was one of them, Navico was another, and I don't
remember offhand what the other two were.

Their press release page at http://www.lowrance.com/Company/press.asp
has some more details about the mergers and sales. For extra fun, group
the press releases broadly into "boat", "car/truck/motorcycle",
"airplane", and "other", and count how many there are in each category.
Your impression, the press releases, and Kyle Boatright's comment

Kyle Boatright > wrote:
> At SnF, I had a nice discussion with the outgoing President of Lowrance.
> [...] He also said Lowrance would have been first to market with XM
> weather, but the parent corporation re-tasked the R&D folks to providing
> solutions for large marine users.

all seem to say a similar thing.

I don't _know_, but looking at it from Lowrance's end, I _suspect_ their
margins are higher on the marine products. They can probably price them
higher in that market, and also avoid some of the cost of regulatory
approvals.

Matt Roberds