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Al G[_2_]
June 1st 07, 04:36 PM
Hi Gang,

In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish his
private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I should
know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.

Al G

Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
June 1st 07, 04:40 PM
"Al G" > wrote in
:

> Hi Gang,
>
> In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to
> finish his
> private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I
> should know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a
> Quickie to a Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
>

As straightforward as they come.
Remember the old C 145 ices easily, of course.
has the big flaps as well, but it's the same as a 172 as far as that goes.


Bertie

Jim Burns[_2_]
June 1st 07, 05:03 PM
One of my partners in our Aztec owns a 170B, I've got a couple dozen hours
in the right seat.
Spring gear, so watch that final 2-3 feet of your decent, especially if you
have large tires and it hasn't been upgraded to C180 legs. Power is your
friend while taxiing. Plan and anticipate. Keep your feet moving.

Jim


"Al G" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Gang,
>
> In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish
his
> private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I
should
> know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
> Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
>
> Al G
>
>

Boeing NNTP News Access
June 1st 07, 08:13 PM
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:36:50 -0700, "Al G" >
wrote:

>Hi Gang,
>
> In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish his
>private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I should
>know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
>Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
>
>Al G
>

WIth full fuel, an C-145 powered C-170 is a two place airplane.

Other than that, I can't think of anything bad to say about the 170
(owned a B model for 4 years and put 700 hours on it in that
time frame).

As far as the spring steel gear goes, no problem but your butt
and eyeballs do have to figure out where the bottom of those tires are
while landing.... 8^)

Now that I think about it, the only other gotcha I'd watch for is
mis-aligned main gear which could lead to twitchy handling
during takeoffs and landings... (mine was way off when I bought it,
but once the gear alignment was sorted out, it was a pussy cat
on the ground).

Bela P. Havasreti

john smith[_2_]
June 1st 07, 08:32 PM
In article >,
"Jim Burns" > wrote:

> One of my partners in our Aztec owns a 170B, I've got a couple dozen hours
> in the right seat.
> Spring gear, so watch that final 2-3 feet of your decent, especially if you
> have large tires and it hasn't been upgraded to C180 legs. Power is your
> friend while taxiing. Plan and anticipate. Keep your feet moving.

You will want to wheel land it, slightly tail low. Some have a tendency
to oil-can if you are going too fast when the tail is put on the ground.

Dave Doe
June 2nd 07, 01:58 AM
In article >,
says...
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 08:36:50 -0700, "Al G" >
> wrote:
>
> >Hi Gang,
> >
> > In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish his
> >private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I should
> >know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
> >Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
> >
> >Al G
> >
>
> WIth full fuel, an C-145 powered C-170 is a two place airplane.

Just out of interest, what's the expected endurance (incl. reserve) with
4 x 70Kg adults OB (approximately)?

--
Duncan

Luke Skywalker
June 2nd 07, 04:44 AM
On Jun 1, 10:36 am, "Al G" > wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish his
> private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I should
> know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
> Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
>
> Al G

Hello Al.

Some pretty good suggestions here.

I assume that you are not having to do basic taildragger instruction
since he is "finishing" his private. The hardest thing I found was to
get people to see the landing attitude for a "wheel landing"...

You should have a blast. I have not flown a Cessna tailwheeler that
was not just a fine good time.

Robert

Al G[_2_]
June 4th 07, 06:47 PM
"Luke Skywalker" > wrote in message
s.com...
> On Jun 1, 10:36 am, "Al G" > wrote:
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> In the next couple of weeks I'll be working with a fellow to finish
>> his
>> private in a C-170B. Does anyone have any notes, tricks, or gotchas I
>> should
>> know about? I have taildragger time in everything from a Quickie to a
>> Lodestar, but haven't flown the 170 for 28 years.
>>
>> Al G
>
> Hello Al.
>
> Some pretty good suggestions here.
>
> I assume that you are not having to do basic taildragger instruction
> since he is "finishing" his private. The hardest thing I found was to
> get people to see the landing attitude for a "wheel landing"...
>
> You should have a blast. I have not flown a Cessna tailwheeler that
> was not just a fine good time.
>
> Robert
>
I did have a blast. It is a really nice little A/c. He has redone the
interior in leather, and added a new radio and transponder.
The attitude was a shock. The 170 cowling is very low, and gives the
impression of a nose low attitude when straight and level. Visibility is
excellent.
Yes, the gear is quite springy, even soft. It seems there might be even be
some main wheel alignment issues occurring when up on the mains and
depressing the gear.
The fellow's attitude toward learning is great. He is an A & P, and a
pleasure to fly with.

Al G

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