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Gordon
July 30th 03, 03:12 AM
Peter, clear out your inbox, please. Two of the three Rainbow photos
boomeranged due to space limitations on your end.

v/r
Gordon
<====(A+C====>
USN SAR Aircrew

"Got anything on your radar, SENSO?"
"Nothing but my forehead, sir."

Peter Stickney
July 30th 03, 04:28 AM
In article >,
(Gordon) writes:
> Peter, clear out your inbox, please. Two of the three Rainbow photos
> boomeranged due to space limitations on your end.

Adelphia's been having a bad day, Chief.
Giv 'er another shot. It should get swallowed up by my home server
O.K.

(Don't forget that it's . If that fails, give
a shot.

Salivating while awaiting,
--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Gordon
July 30th 03, 04:38 PM
on the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Peter Stickney
July 31st 03, 04:45 AM
In article >,
(Gordon) writes:
> on the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Shack!
Worldnet comes thhrough. Beautiful shots, albeit sandwitched between
an offer for Chinese Copper Foil in 20 micron thicknesses, and
something about making my Sea Cucumber bigger. (I may not have
translated that last one right)

Thanks much, and good lick with the unpacking.
Have you gotten over the "sitting sideways in the van with the cargo
door slid back" phase yet? Sets a bad example for the kids.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Dave Kearton
July 31st 03, 11:50 AM
"Gordon" > wrote in message
...




| I think I get every get-rich-never, penis-swelling, African banker type
email
| there is, but the Chinese Copper Foil is a new one to me. Perhaps that's
a good
| thing.



We use it for making hats with.

(he said, ending a sentence with a preposition)



|Glad you liked the photos of the Rainbow - she was definitely a lovely
| bird. (What did you think of her, Dave..?)
|



Sorry Gordon, what were you saying ? I drifted off there for a minute.



Oh yeah, the rainbow. It surprised me, inasmuch as I'd never heard
of it before. It looks like a post war attempt to out-sex the
Constellation. A prop powered Comet, if you will.



Can someone explain the Californian, latte-drinking name ? Was it a
precursor to a collection of long range aircraft named Sunset, Sky and
Moonbeam ?


"Maverick, Eject, eject there's a Wheatgrass on your tail"




| v/r
| Gordon
| (The 8-year old adjusted his glasses and suggested I be more careful.
| Definitely does NOT have the gene...)



Maybe it's a shoe colour thing ?




Now that I'm back together, I'll post the pics on a.b.p.a




Cheers



Dave Kearton

PS: Hey Gordon, big day today, if you know what I mean......

Gordon
July 31st 03, 07:27 PM
>
>Oh yeah, the rainbow. It surprised me, inasmuch as I'd never heard
>of it before. It looks like a post war attempt to out-sex the
>Constellation. A prop powered Comet, if you will.

Well said, except the grammar part. (A bubba correcting grammar? fuuunnny.)

>Can someone explain the Californian, latte-drinking name ? Was it a
>precursor to a collection of long range aircraft named Sunset, Sky and
>Moonbeam ?

Keep it up and I will toss a sprig of mint at you. The locals here have a way
of dealing with outlanders such as yourself that make fun of the Republic of
California so be warned...

Lets see what sort of name you'd come up with for such a fleet, lovely
aircraft? Up for it..? I initially thought of the a/c as a 1944-1945
bomber, although I found out that it was more a flying photo lab. So the
category would be either Recce or heavy bomber. Lets start the revisionistic
namecalling, shall we?

I cast the first vote:

XF-12 "Streaker".

runnerup

"Propender"

over to you, Dave and Peter.

>
>"Maverick, Eject, eject there's a Wheatgrass on your tail"
>

[deploy sprig]

>
>Now that I'm back together, I'll post the pics on a.b.p.a
>

Thanks, bud. Jenna says hi. Blue is in the shower, en route back to the
airport, little brother in tow. Six people in this house is a tad much, with 4
of them being kids. ARRRGGGHH Principal returns by car next Monday, giving me
three days to locate a home for her. Pray for me. Pray hard.

yf
Gordon

>PS: Hey Gordon, big day today, if you know what I mean......
>

Biz wise, or were you blessed by the wifey...? ;)

Dave Kearton
July 31st 03, 11:54 PM
"Gordon" > wrote in message
...
| >
| >Oh yeah, the rainbow. It surprised me, inasmuch as I'd never
heard
| >of it before. It looks like a post war attempt to out-sex the
| >Constellation. A prop powered Comet, if you will.
|
| Well said, except the grammar part. (A bubba correcting grammar?
fuuunnny.)
|
| >Can someone explain the Californian, latte-drinking name ? Was it
a
| >precursor to a collection of long range aircraft named Sunset, Sky and
| >Moonbeam ?
|
| Keep it up and I will toss a sprig of mint at you. The locals here have a
way
| of dealing with outlanders such as yourself that make fun of the Republic
of
| California so be warned...




Is that like getting threatened by Michael Jackson ?



|
| Lets see what sort of name you'd come up with for such a fleet, lovely
| aircraft? Up for it..? I initially thought of the a/c as a 1944-1945
| bomber, although I found out that it was more a flying photo lab. So the
| category would be either Recce or heavy bomber. Lets start the
revisionistic
| namecalling, shall we?
|
| I cast the first vote:
|
| XF-12 "Streaker".
|
| runnerup
|
| "Propender"
|



Did your new neighbours help you with that one ?








| over to you, Dave and Peter.
|
| >
| >"Maverick, Eject, eject there's a Wheatgrass on your tail"
| >
|
| [deploy sprig]
|
| >
| >Now that I'm back together, I'll post the pics on a.b.p.a
| >
|
| Thanks, bud. Jenna says hi. Blue is in the shower, en route back to the
| airport, little brother in tow. Six people in this house is a tad much,
with 4
| of them being kids. ARRRGGGHH Principal returns by car next Monday,
giving me
| three days to locate a home for her. Pray for me. Pray hard.
|
| yf
| Gordon




Sounds like things are returning to normal, except it's a different
normal than before.





|
| >PS: Hey Gordon, big day today, if you know what I mean......
| >
|
| Biz wise, or were you blessed by the wifey...? ;)



One is curiously followed by the other .....





Cheers

Dave Kearton

Walt BJ
August 1st 03, 04:38 AM
Purely alliteration: "Republic Rainbow." I guess 'ThunderSnap' or
'Thunderflick' didn't make the cut.It was a photo recce bird that
could outrun prop fighters, or at least go fast enough to avoid
interception. After the war it was evaluated as a high-speed airliner
by alas, too few seats, and jets were on the horizon. One of them is
sitting on the bottom of the ocean south of Eglin AFB.
Apropos of nothing - Gordon, what are you and your family doing in the
oven of the USA? At least my brother (ex-swabbie!) after leaving
Corona del Mar this April resettled in Colorado!!
Walt BJ

Peter Stickney
August 1st 03, 05:08 AM
In article >,
(Gordon) writes:
>> Beautiful shots, albeit sandwitched between
>>an offer for Chinese Copper Foil in 20 micron thicknesses, and
>>something about making my Sea Cucumber bigger. (I may not have
>>translated that last one right)
>
> I think I get every get-rich-never, penis-swelling, African banker type email
> there is, but the Chinese Copper Foil is a new one to me. Perhaps thats a good
> thing. Glad you liked the photos of the Rainbow - she was definitely a lovely
> bird. (What did you think of her, Dave..?)

WRT the copper foil, it might be an Engineer Thing. I also get
invitations to Trade Shows in Dubai. Ah, Dubai... Just like Las
Vegas, but with no casinos, booze, naked women, or the Nellis Traffic
Pattern. If I wanted that, I'd go to White Sands. At least there you
can shoot off rockets.

>
>>
>>Thanks much, and good luck with the unpacking.
>
> Trucking right along. Granted, there isn't much "unpacking" in a house this
> size! I rather miss the expansiveness of an Austin suburb.
>
>>Have you gotten over the "sitting sideways in the van with the cargo
>>door slid back" phase yet? Sets a bad example for the kids.
>
> Hell no. :) Never. On the trip out here, a RR track snuck up on me and
> before I knew it, our heavily laden sedan was soaring free through the hot
> Tucson sky. Crashing back to earth a short distance away, the car was filled
> with various shocked responses to the unexpected flight and heavy landing. As
> I let out a typical ex-Navy version of, "My, how exciting!", my 3-year old
> squealed, "DO IT AGAIN!" She has the gene, man!

Indeed, she has The Nature. Is Rescue Swimming hereditary?
As I've been rebuilding the Mighty Wurlitzer (The multi-platform
Flight Sim, the coordinating node of which died in last Spring's
meltdown), My 11 year old has been "flying chase". Not too bad, but
I'm working up the Mosquito, and she prefers the B-70. "Dad, can't
you make that thing go any faster?" I pity the poor boys when she
starts dating.

> (The 8-year old adjusted his glasses and suggested I be more careful.
> Definitely does NOT have the gene...)

Sounds like one of my younger brothers. He was definitely the White
Sheep of the family.
--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Peter Stickney
August 1st 03, 05:15 AM
In article >,
"Dave Kearton" > writes:
> "Gordon" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>
>
>| I think I get every get-rich-never, penis-swelling, African banker type
> email
>| there is, but the Chinese Copper Foil is a new one to me. Perhaps that's
> a good
>| thing.
>
>
>
> We use it for making hats with.

That explains a lot. Much easier to solder. Is there a shiny side?
>
> (he said, ending a sentence with a preposition)

That is something up with we shall not put.


> Oh yeah, the rainbow. It surprised me, inasmuch as I'd never heard
> of it before. It looks like a post war attempt to out-sex the
> Constellation. A prop powered Comet, if you will.
>
>
>
> Can someone explain the Californian, latte-drinking name ? Was it a
> precursor to a collection of long range aircraft named Sunset, Sky and
> Moonbeam ?

Well, Republic Aviation was Deepinahart Lon Gisland, Noo Yawk, so I
kinda doubt the toughy-feelie bits. Kartveli was one serious
curmudgeon, too.

This is just a guess on my part, but since all of Republic's other
stuff (All right, except the Seabee) was "Thundersomething"
(Thunderbolt, Thunderjet, Thunderceptor), and the F-12 was a deep
recce bird, well, it could well be that a Rainbow is something that
comes out when the Thunder has passed.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Gordon
August 1st 03, 05:19 AM
>Purely alliteration: "Republic Rainbow." I guess 'ThunderSnap' or
>'Thunderflick' didn't make the cut.

Republic went from a generation of "thunder"-craft to a 'Rainbow'. Very odd...

>It was a photo recce bird that
>could outrun prop fighters, or at least go fast enough to avoid
>interception.

I think it used it's beauty to avoid destruction by enemy fighters. Who'd
shoot at such a vision?

>After the war it was evaluated as a high-speed airliner
>by alas, too few seats,

- known as the Dornier 17 Syndrome. "Its a passenger aircraft, as long as you
don't mind riding in these shackles..."

>One of them is
>sitting on the bottom of the ocean south of Eglin AFB.

Tragic. Do you know the particulars of its ditching?

>what are you and your family doing in the
>oven of the USA?

We just finished three years in Austin and returned to San Diego - where its
about 30 degrees cooler than any part of Texas! (I just wish the schools were
better, otherwise, I'd have no complaints about livin' in paradise.)

>At least my brother (ex-swabbie!) after leaving
>Corona del Mar this April resettled in Colorado!!

My sis, retired zoomie officer, is someplace in Los Angeles. No accounting for
taste. :)

v/r
Gordon
=============insert Dave's list=====
Advice given to RAF pilots during W.W.II. When a prang (crash) seems
inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity
as slowly and gently as possible.

The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill
you. (Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot)

A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its
maximum. (Jon McBride, astronaut)

If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash
as possible. (Bob Hoover -renowned aerobatic and test pilot)

If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it; ride the *******
down. (Ernest K. Gann, author & aviator)

Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death I Shall Fear No Evil For I am at
80,000 Feet and Climbing.(sign over the entrance to the SR-71 operating
location Kadena, Japan).

You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F.
Crickmore - test pilot)

Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you.

There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign over
squadron ops desk at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ, 1970.)

The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a
good bowel movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few
opportunities in life where you get to experience all three at the same
time. (Author unknown, but someone who's been there)

"Now I know what a dog feels like watching TV." (A DC-9 captain trainee
attempting to check out on the 'glass cockpit'of an A-320.)

If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to.

Gordon
August 1st 03, 05:24 AM
>
>> "Propender"
>
>Did your new neighbours help you with that one ?
>

If you are found strangled by a feather boa, we'll all know why.

<snip>
>Sounds like things are returning to normal, except it's a different
>normal than before.

Objects in the mirror may be weirder than they appear.

>>> Hey Gordon, big day today, if you know what I mean......
>> Biz wise, or were you blessed by the wifey...?
>
>One is curiously followed by the other .....
>

Nothing improves sex with the wife quite like muttering those three magic
little words,

"Honey, we're RICH."

yf
Gordon
<====(A+C====>
USN SAR Aircrew

"Got anything on your radar, SENSO?"
"Nothing but my forehead, sir."

Peter Stickney
August 1st 03, 05:27 AM
In article >,
(Gordon) writes:
> Lets see what sort of name you'd come up with for such a fleet, lovely
> aircraft? Up for it..? I initially thought of the a/c as a 1944-1945
> bomber, although I found out that it was more a flying photo lab. So the
> category would be either Recce or heavy bomber. Lets start the revisionistic
> namecalling, shall we?
>
> I cast the first vote:
>
> XF-12 "Streaker".
>
> runnerup
>
> "Propender"

Aurora - A fast, high flying recce bird, and at least it's a weather
related name.
Thundersquall - A Thunder name, and a squall line tends to cover
ground fast, and be quite violent.

A bomber Rainbow would have been what the Mosquito wanted to be when
it grew up. 400 mph cruise at 40,000' with 10,000lbs disposable load.

Although the B-45 had a lot to offer. Not quite a Strategic Bomber,
but it was still a fast/high flyer for its time, and it carried the
same payload as a B-29.

A bit of Rainbow Trivia. There was a lot of interest in the F-12 as
an airliner. (Then again, Pan Am almost talked Douglas into a civilan
C-74 as the original DC-7) The airplane had so much reserve power at
cruise speed/height, that one airline considered certificating it as a
3-engine airliner, so that if they lost an engine, they wouldn't have
to divert.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Dave Kearton
August 1st 03, 05:35 AM
"Gordon" > wrote in message
...
| >
| >> "Propender"
| >
| >Did your new neighbours help you with that one ?
| >
|
| If you are found strangled by a feather boa, we'll all know why.
|
| <snip>



Was that the beginnings of a lisp there Gordon ?




| >Sounds like things are returning to normal, except it's a different
| >normal than before.
|
| Objects in the mirror may be weirder than they appear.




Speaking of same, I'll post your pics of you and Kate.






|
| Nothing improves sex with the wife quite like muttering those three magic
| little words,
|
| "Honey, we're RICH."
|
| yf
| Gordon



So true, but it's a cruel trick to play, and if she can fake it, so
can I.



Cheers



Dave Kearton

Dave Kearton
August 1st 03, 10:35 AM
"Gordon" > wrote in message
...
| >| If you are found strangled by a feather boa, we'll all know why.
| >|
| >| <snip>
| >
| >
| >
| >Was that the beginnings of a lisp there Gordon ?
|
| no, but I'll go gargle with Patron, just in case.
|


I have no idea what that is, but I'll assume that it's at least 20 W40





| >Speaking of same, I'll post your pics of you and Kate.
|
| It has been an interesting summer, hasn't it?
|
| yfG




Back to lion taming next year ?






Cheers

Dave Kearton

Gordon
August 1st 03, 06:45 PM
>|
>| no, but I'll go gargle with Patron, just in case.
>|
>
>
>I have no idea what that is, but I'll assume that it's at least 20 W40

Tequila, mate. Best in the world. Won't save your soul but it'll shine your
shoes.


>
>| >Speaking of same, I'll post your pics of you and Kate.
>|
>| It has been an interesting summer, hasn't it?

>Back to lion taming next year ?

Worse. Raising Jenna without a net.

Still waiting for the USS Midway to arrive so I can get an office and get back
to work! Note of advice to all -- never retire when there are still kids at
home.

off to see what trouble we can get into - later, friend.

yfGordon

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