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transputer
July 31st 03, 10:31 PM
CHICAGO (Reuters) - High-tech jobs may be moving overseas but one
low-tech job Americans could always fall back on was flipping burgers at
McDonald's.

That could change in the not-too-distant future. Later this year, a
Chicago-area McDonald's restaurant will fry up hamburgers with an
automated grill that dispenses patties directly onto the griddle from a
separate freezer compartment, reducing labor and promising fresher
sandwiches.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030731/leisure_mcdonalds_1.html

Gooneybird
August 1st 03, 03:20 AM
So, after they succeed in getting machines to do everything, how are the
unemployed people hanging around looking for work going to be able to afford to
buy all that stuff the machines turn out? Has anybody thought it through that
far yet?

Just thought I'd ask. Inquiring minds want to know. (^-^)))

George Z.

transputer wrote:
> CHICAGO (Reuters) - High-tech jobs may be moving overseas but one
> low-tech job Americans could always fall back on was flipping burgers at
> McDonald's.
>
> That could change in the not-too-distant future. Later this year, a
> Chicago-area McDonald's restaurant will fry up hamburgers with an
> automated grill that dispenses patties directly onto the griddle from a
> separate freezer compartment, reducing labor and promising fresher
> sandwiches.
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030731/leisure_mcdonalds_1.html

Paul Ely
August 1st 03, 04:56 AM
"Dott. PIergiorgio" > wrote in message
.. .
> transputer wrote:
>
> > CHICAGO (Reuters) - High-tech jobs may be moving overseas but one
> > low-tech job Americans could always fall back on was flipping burgers at
> > McDonald's.
>
> Ok I get this. And where is the Naval context ?
>
> Best regards from Italy.
>

It's a bit of American humor...a shorthand for general job categories.
See the 7/30/03 string "what civilian jobs do ex nuclear submarine officers
get?" ; -)

Terms like "Burger King" refer to generic civilian management track jobs
that
do not use specific military skills or knowledge, but transferable
management
techniques acquired during military service.

IF the 'burger flippers/blue color workers' are replaced, the number of
'managers'
required also decreases - be it from technological change or overseas wage
competition.

v/r,
Paul Ely
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
August 1st 03, 10:21 AM
Paul Ely wrote:
> IF the 'burger flippers/blue color workers' are replaced, the number
> of 'managers' required also decreases - be it from technological
> change or overseas wage competition.


There ya go. That's why I always make it a point to throw my litter out in the
parking lot when I frequent one of these places. You might think it's pure
laziness, but I tell you it's only concern for the lowly paid employee. If I
and people like me didn't throw our crap out in the parking lot, he might be out
of a job. If they don't need him, maybe they won't need as many managers.

See, I'm just looking out for everyone's best interests. I'm just that kind of
guy.



--
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http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

Keith Willshaw
August 1st 03, 03:15 PM
"Duke of URL" <MacBenahatKDSIdotnet> wrote in message
...
> "Dott. PIergiorgio" > wrote in message
>
> > transputer wrote:
> >
> >> CHICAGO (Reuters) - High-tech jobs may be moving overseas but one
> >> low-tech job Americans could always fall back on was flipping
> >> burgers at McDonald's.
> >
> > Ok I get this. And where is the Naval context ?
>
> You've obviously never eaten onboard a USN ship - the favorite food is
> "sliders".
>
>

For the benefit of non USA'ians 'sliders' are small hamburgers
as dispensed by the White Castle chain apparently so called because
they go down and through fast, I came across when working
in Columbus Ohio where White Castle Inc have their HQ

Keith

Tuollaf43
August 1st 03, 07:44 PM
"Gooneybird" > wrote in message >...
> So, after they succeed in getting machines to do everything, how are the
> unemployed people hanging around looking for work going to be able to afford to
> buy all that stuff the machines turn out? Has anybody thought it through that
> far yet?
>
> Just thought I'd ask. Inquiring minds want to know. (^-^)))
>
> George Z.

The unemployed hands get employment in the factories where the burger
flippin machines are made.

Spehro Pefhany
August 1st 03, 08:03 PM
On 1 Aug 2003 11:44:31 -0700, the renowned
(Tuollaf43) wrote:

>The unemployed hands get employment in the factories where the burger
>flippin machines are made.

If the machine lasts for 10 years and eliminates the equivalent of 2
full-time jobs- you're suggesting it will take 20 man years of
semi-skilled labor to build ONE of them?

Best regards,
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Chad Irby
August 1st 03, 08:26 PM
In article >,
Spehro Pefhany > wrote:

> On 1 Aug 2003 11:44:31 -0700, the renowned
> (Tuollaf43) wrote:
>
> >The unemployed hands get employment in the factories where the burger
> >flippin machines are made.
>
> If the machine lasts for 10 years and eliminates the equivalent of 2
> full-time jobs- you're suggesting it will take 20 man years of
> semi-skilled labor to build ONE of them?

Well, what will really happen is that those unemployed folks will find
jobs in *other* industries.

When the buggy whip manufacturers went out of business, you can bet most
of the workers found other, more lucrative jobs in the sexual
accessories market.

--


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Slam on brakes accordingly.

Mary Shafer
August 2nd 03, 01:21 AM
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:59:56 -0500, "Duke of URL"
<MacBenahatKDSIdotnet> wrote:

> "Dott. PIergiorgio" > wrote in message
>
> > transputer wrote:
> >
> >> CHICAGO (Reuters) - High-tech jobs may be moving overseas but one
> >> low-tech job Americans could always fall back on was flipping
> >> burgers at McDonald's.
> >
> > Ok I get this. And where is the Naval context ?
>
> You've obviously never eaten onboard a USN ship - the favorite food is
> "sliders".

On our first cruise (Maasdam, Holland-America Line), we were at the
midnight caviar sampling and I made a remark about "midrats". The
ex-Navy guy sitting next to me almost choked on his blini.

It turned out we had three blue-water dudes at the table; we continued
to meet at midnight and we heard a lot of stories about shipboard
food. There are cruises and then there are cruises.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Patrick Bean
August 2nd 03, 02:42 PM
In article >,
Chad Irby > wrote:
> Well, what will really happen is that those unemployed folks will find
> jobs in *other* industries.

Quite, we had all this talk in the 60s and 70s as automation was coming
into the factories, and (in the UK atleast) we have lower unemployment
than in the early 80s.

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