Re: Cocaine, was: How stupid can one get???

[Bob McKellar]

Leadfoot wrote:

> "S. Sampson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "José Herculano" > wrote
> > >
> > > http://www.af.mil/stories/story.asp?storyID=123005376
> >
> > It's a sad commentary on the Air Force academy. It looks like these
> > cadets spend more time off of campus, than on. If I was the commandant
> > I'd close the gates, and get the kids back into military formation. The
> only
> > way I'd let them out the gate, would be in groups of 5 or more.
>
> > better to let them out and let the bad apples screw up so they can be
> identified
> >

Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of drug and
alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive friends
and family.

Bob McKellar

[S. Sampson]

"Bob McKellar" > wrote
>
> Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of drug and
> alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive friends
> and family.

Gosh! I don't know about the others, but I feel warm all over now...

[Tarver Engineering]

"S. Sampson" > wrote in message
...
> "Bob McKellar" > wrote
> >
> > Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of drug
and
> > alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive
friends
> > and family.
>
> Gosh! I don't know about the others, but I feel warm all over now...

I think Bob explained a lot of his posts, with that confession.

[Guy Alcala]

Bob McKellar wrote:

> Leadfoot wrote:
>
> > "S. Sampson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "José Herculano" > wrote
> > > >
> > > > http://www.af.mil/stories/story.asp?storyID=123005376
> > >
> > > It's a sad commentary on the Air Force academy. It looks like these
> > > cadets spend more time off of campus, than on. If I was the commandant
> > > I'd close the gates, and get the kids back into military formation. The
> > only
> > > way I'd let them out the gate, would be in groups of 5 or more.
> >
> > > better to let them out and let the bad apples screw up so they can be
> > identified
> > >
>
> Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of drug and
> alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive friends
> and family.

It will be interesting to see from the responses if you've crossed over the 'too
subtle use of irony' line.

Guy

[S. Sampson]

> wrote
>
> I was thinking the same thing. But then, nowadays the air force is so
> far removed from that type of lifestyle that the O-club is primarily
> used for benign, afternoon coffee klatch get-togethers.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most O, and E-clubs have gone
bankrupt, and the new term is the "Activities Center." Commanders have
finally given up on the clubs, as they've been shunned by the force since
the early 80's. Most young people in uniform today, wouldn't be caught
dead in a bingo-parlor, cafeteria, or stag bar style club. It would be like
our going to a Timberlake or Eminem concert to sway to the lip-syncing
boys and girls.

[Gooneybird]

"Bob McKellar" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tarver Engineering wrote:
>
> > "S. Sampson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Bob McKellar" > wrote
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of drug
> > and
> > > > alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive
> > friends
> > > > and family.
> > >
> > > Gosh! I don't know about the others, but I feel warm all over now...
> >
> > I think Bob explained a lot of his posts, with that confession.
>
> That's pretty rotten, to accuse me of being an Air Force vet.

Since they were your words, and you were the one who brought them up, you can't
hardly blame someone else for them unless, of course, you haven't come down from
something you're taking. In that case, you could say anything, and it wouldn't
have to make sense.

George Z.

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>"S. Sampson" > wrote:
> wrote

>>I was thinking the same thing. But then, nowadays the air force is so
>>far removed from that type of lifestyle that the O-club is primarily
>>used for benign, afternoon coffee klatch get-togethers.

>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most O, and E-clubs have gone
>bankrupt, and the new term is the "Activities Center."

Activities Center huh?

Sheeiit!

>Commanders have finally given up on the clubs, as they've been
>shunned by the force since the early 80's. Most young people in
>uniform today, wouldn't be caught dead in a bingo-parlor, cafeteria,
>or stag bar style club. It would be like our going to a Timberlake
>or Eminem concert to sway to the lip-syncing boys and girls.

Eminem? Timberlake?? You're obviously much younger than me!

-Mike (Rolling Stones R00L Baby!) Marron

[Tarver Engineering]

"Bob McKellar" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Tarver Engineering wrote:
>
> > "S. Sampson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Bob McKellar" > wrote
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it's possible for an Air Force veteran with a history of
drug
> > and
> > > > alcohol problems to do quite well in this country, given supportive
friends
> > > > and family.
> > >
> > > Gosh! I don't know about the others, but I feel warm all over now...
> >
> > I think Bob explained a lot of his posts, with that confession.
>
> That's pretty rotten, to accuse me of being an Air Force vet.

I suppose the youngsters could claim to be walking in GW's footsteps. :)

[BUFDRVR]

>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most O, and E-clubs have gone
>bankrupt, and the new term is the "Activities Center." Commanders have
>finally given up on the clubs, as they've been shunned by the force since
>the early 80's.

Pretty broad brush you paint with. O-Clubs at every Pilot and Nav Training base
that I've been to, plus Vandenberg (where Undergraduate Space Training is) have
all had very active clubs with great participation. Operational bases tend to
vary, but many are still hopin' places on Friday. The "lets get hammered at the
Club on Friday" era is gone, and many clubs have died as a result, but more
remain open.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

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(BUFDRVR) wrote:

>The "lets get hammered at the Club on Friday" era is gone, and
>many clubs have died as a result, but more remain open.

An ex-Viper jock (now flies for the airlines) scheduled a series of
flights to party down with me here in Tampa. I partied him under the
table every time...

-Mike (then drove him back to his hotel room) Marron

[ArtKramr]

>Subject: Re: Cocaine, was: How stupid can one get???
>From: (BUFDRVR)
>Date: 8/8/03 4:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most O, and E-clubs have gone
>>bankrupt, and the new term is the "Activities Center." Commanders have
>>finally given up on the clubs, as they've been shunned by the force since
>>the early 80's.
>
>Pretty broad brush you paint with. O-Clubs at every Pilot and Nav Training
>base
>that I've been to, plus Vandenberg (where Undergraduate Space Training is)
>have
>all had very active clubs with great participation. Operational bases tend to
>vary, but many are still hopin' places on Friday. The "lets get hammered at
>the
>Club on Friday" era is gone, and many clubs have died as a result, but more
>remain open.
>
>
>BUFDRVR
>
>
At the O club at the 344th with the war raging you drank like a gentlemen or
you paid the price. Wanna get hammered? Drink in your tent. Drunkeness was not
tolerated in public.What you did in private was your business.

Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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(ArtKramr) wrote:

>At the O club at the 344th with the war raging you drank like a gentlemen or
>you paid the price. Wanna get hammered? Drink in your tent. Drunkeness was not
>tolerated in public.What you did in private was your business.

Gentlemen or not, I seem to recall fighter pilots singing a song about
"persona non grata" bombadiers and navigators...

-Mike Marron
..

[Bob McKellar]

BUFDRVR wrote:

<snip>

>Operational bases tend to vary, but many are still hopin' places on Friday.

Hopin' for what? What I hoped for at that age?

( And try to remember at this age? )

Bob McKellar

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>Bob McKellar > wrote:
>>BUFDRVR wrote:

><snip>

>>Operational bases tend to vary, but many are still hopin' places on Friday.

>Hopin' for what? What I hoped for at that age?

>( And try to remember at this age? )

McKellar -- you fuggen crack me up!

-MIke Marron

[tom c]

In that case, you could say anything, and it wouldn't
> have to make sense.
>
> George Z.
>

The same can be said for news reporters and politicians sans any chemical
influence.

Tom C

[Ed Rasimus]

wrote:

>An ex-Viper jock (now flies for the airlines) scheduled a series of
>flights to party down with me here in Tampa. I partied him under the
>table every time...
>
>-Mike (then drove him back to his hotel room) Marron

Did I ever explain to you the distinction about "pilots who fly
fighters" and "fighter pilots"?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
***"When Thunder Rolled:
*** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam"
*** from Smithsonian Books
ISBN: 1588341038

[BUFDRVR]

>>Operational bases tend to vary, but many are still hopin' places on Friday.
>
>Hopin' for what? What I hoped for at that age?
>

Not sure if that was a typo or a Fraudian slip ;)


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"