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July 12th 07, 01:36 PM
Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

My pattern has been to jump 2 model series or when there is a
significant change. I have a 396 in the Bonanza that has earned it's
keep with the XM weather incorporation. This year I upgraded my audio
panel to utilize the audio input.

Speculation?

Bob

Nathan Young
July 12th 07, 02:09 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:

>Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
>greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
496 lacks... Exceptions would be integrated traffic or artificial
horizon, but those would require additional hardware components to be
added to the design, and that would not make it size effective.

Garmin's automotive GPS(s) now use touchscreen displays, so perhaps if
they announce a 596 it will have that.

-Nathan

Matt Barrow[_4_]
July 12th 07, 02:26 PM
> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
> greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>
> My pattern has been to jump 2 model series or when there is a
> significant change. I have a 396 in the Bonanza that has earned it's
> keep with the XM weather incorporation. This year I upgraded my audio
> panel to utilize the audio input.
>
> Speculation?
>
A Very Light Jet (VLJ)?

Everyone else is.

Jay Honeck
July 12th 07, 03:17 PM
> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
> greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?

Three main enhancements must be made to any new product they
introduce.

1. Any new "596" should be user-configurable so that the screen can be
either "portrait" or "landscape". Currently it is landscape-only,
which is terrible for an aviation GPS. (AvMap added this feature
years ago.)

2. The processing speed must be upped significantly. We find
scrolling the screen on the 496 to be painfully slow, enough to where
we don't use the cool features of the unit as often as we would
otherwise.

3. If they can enlarge the screen without enlarging the overall box,
Garmin should do it. (AvMap did this little piece of magic with their
AvMap IV. The screen is bigger than the III, but the box it's in is
actually smaller.) Maybe make the whole front of the unit a "screen"
and go to a touch-screen configuration.

IMHO if they can accomplish these three things, Garmin can leave
everything else untouched and still have a home-run hit at OSH.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jim Carter[_1_]
July 12th 07, 05:34 PM
VLJ?

Naw, Garmin's going past that step in technology. Their new product will
allow you to plug in the lat/long coordinates of where you want to be and
press "Enter" to just transport yourself their, completely circumventing the
user fees, FSS queues, and other aggravations. Of course jitter will have to
be turned on so we don't all arrive at the same place at the same time...

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas

Gig 601XL Builder
July 12th 07, 05:45 PM
Jim Carter wrote:
> Of course jitter will have to be turned on so we don't all arrive at the
> same place at the same time...


You and I live in Arkansas, Jim. I don't think that is something we need to
worry about.

Robert M. Gary
July 12th 07, 10:56 PM
On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
> >Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
> >greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>
> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
> that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
> 496 lacks...

Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

-Robert

B A R R Y
July 12th 07, 11:45 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> wrote:

>Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>

Can't you just program the route from Navaid to Navaid, and if
necessary, add the intersections where the airway bends?

Airways always run from something to something else (a Navaid or
intersection). Even a current databased 196 has the pints that define
an airway. While you still need the chart to program it, once it's
programmed, you can easily follow an airway.

Am I missing something?

Thanks!

Peter Clark
July 12th 07, 11:55 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> wrote:

>On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>> >Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
>> >greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>
>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
>> that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
>> 496 lacks...
>
>Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

There is hope. They have airways in the Mustang G1000 and ChartView
in the entire 2007 NAV III line and rumor has it the new software
(reportedly coming this month) for the rest of the NAV III line has
airways and chartview as well.

AFAIK you still need to carry the charts though.

Peter Clark
July 12th 07, 11:57 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:45:27 -0400, B A R R Y
> wrote:

>Can't you just program the route from Navaid to Navaid, and if
>necessary, add the intersections where the airway bends?
>
>Airways always run from something to something else (a Navaid or
>intersection). Even a current databased 196 has the pints that define
>an airway. While you still need the chart to program it, once it's
>programmed, you can easily follow an airway.

That's what I do, but it's really annoying when they give you a
crossing restriction on a fix that isn't a turnpoint in an airway so
now you have to go fishing to find it rather than the entire set of
waypoints constituting an airway being in the plan automatically like
the higher-end FMS.

B A R R Y
July 13th 07, 12:00 AM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:57:15 -0400, Peter Clark
> wrote:
>
>That's what I do, but it's really annoying when they give you a
>crossing restriction on a fix that isn't a turnpoint in an airway so
>now you have to go fishing to find it rather than the entire set of
>waypoints constituting an airway being in the plan automatically like
>the higher-end FMS.

What happens if you're needing to leave or join the airway midway,
such as at an intersection bend?

If you were to program the airway as a waypoint, wouldn't the unit
expect you to fly it from beginning to end?

Peter Clark
July 13th 07, 12:21 AM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:00:00 -0400, B A R R Y
> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:57:15 -0400, Peter Clark
> wrote:
>>
>>That's what I do, but it's really annoying when they give you a
>>crossing restriction on a fix that isn't a turnpoint in an airway so
>>now you have to go fishing to find it rather than the entire set of
>>waypoints constituting an airway being in the plan automatically like
>>the higher-end FMS.
>
>What happens if you're needing to leave or join the airway midway,
>such as at an intersection bend?

In the Mustang G1000 and high-end FMS (Collins ProLine, Honeywell a-la
Boeing/Airbus etc) system you program it as entry point, airway, exit
point and it fills in all the waypoints inbetween for you. So, for
example, BOSOX V1 DPK as dialled into a real system with airways (like
the CNX80 or Mustang/FMS) would automatically populate your flight
plan legs window with: BOSOX GRIPE GRAYM DVANY HFD WEGOT MAD BELTT
DPK. To fly that with a 430/530/non-Mustang G1000 would require
dialling in BOSOX GRAYM HFD MAD BELTT DPK. Say Bradly says cross
WEGOT at 11000, now you have to go find WEGOT on the chart and add it
to the plan in the right place then set up the VNAV profile. Pain in
the rear when with the other systems you can just highlight WEGOT,
fill in 11000 for the ALT, and have it tell you the descent rate
required to make the restriction since all waypoints are already in
there.

Robert M. Gary
July 13th 07, 01:59 AM
On Jul 12, 3:45 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
>
> > wrote:
> >Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
> >just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
> >carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>
> Can't you just program the route from Navaid to Navaid, and if
> necessary, add the intersections where the airway bends?
>
> Airways always run from something to something else (a Navaid or
> intersection). Even a current databased 196 has the pints that define
> an airway. While you still need the chart to program it, once it's
> programmed, you can easily follow an airway.
>
> Am I missing something?

Hopefully a mountain. ;) Out West our airways bend to avoid mountains.
If you miss a bend (which can be easy to do when looking at a
sectional), you could hit the mountain. Its just an increased danager
that isn't necessary if the GPS had airways.
Also, if the GPS had airways I could program my route without having
to always have the paper chart sitting on my lap. Seems like with all
the technology in the cockpit today (I also fly a G1000) that making
us have to make frequent reference to the paper chart is odd.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary
July 13th 07, 02:00 AM
On Jul 12, 4:00 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:57:15 -0400, Peter Clark
>
> > wrote:
>
> >That's what I do, but it's really annoying when they give you a
> >crossing restriction on a fix that isn't a turnpoint in an airway so
> >now you have to go fishing to find it rather than the entire set of
> >waypoints constituting an airway being in the plan automatically like
> >the higher-end FMS.
>
> What happens if you're needing to leave or join the airway midway,
> such as at an intersection bend?
>
> If you were to program the airway as a waypoint, wouldn't the unit
> expect you to fly it from beginning to end?

In the King GPS I had you put two way points and the airway. You could
enter and exit the airway at any waypoint. However, because the GPS
had airways it was smart enough to make all the airway turns and not
just go direct from the first way point to the last (which may have a
mountain in the middle).

-Robert

Robert M. Gary
July 13th 07, 02:01 AM
On Jul 12, 3:55 pm, Peter Clark
> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
> >> >Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
> >> >greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>
> >> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
> >> that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
> >> 496 lacks...
>
> >Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
> >just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
> >carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>
> There is hope. They have airways in the Mustang G1000 and ChartView
> in the entire 2007 NAV III line and rumor has it the new software
> (reportedly coming this month) for the rest of the NAV III line has
> airways and chartview as well.

Awesome!!

> AFAIK you still need to carry the charts though.

Sure, but carrying and having to frequently reference are different
things.

-Robert

Nathan Young
July 13th 07, 01:06 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> wrote:

>Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.

Excellent point, I had forgotten about airways. I have been flying
with a Garmin 295 for years, but I also have my own moving map
software running on a tablet PC which displays airways and
intersections.

In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory, are slow to
draw/paint on the screen, and consume/clutter the display... and that
is on a 900MHz Pentium III tablet PC with a 10.4" screen. Airways
would be a tough trick on a smaller 3-4" portable GPS screen.

Roy Smith
July 13th 07, 02:03 PM
Nathan Young > wrote:
> In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory

Feh. The FAA distributes the airway database in an extremely verbose text
format which is about 10 meg in raw format, but compresses down (with gzip)
to a little under a meg. The only data in the file which doesn't already
need to be stored anyway (i.e. fix coordinates) is a list of which fixes
make up each airway. There's 42k records in the file. If you used a
32-bit pointer for each fix, plus some per-airway information (I count 2240
airways), the whole thing fits into under 200k. This is nothing.

Dan Luke[_2_]
July 13th 07, 02:23 PM
"Roy Smith" wrote:

>> In Garmin's defense, the airways take up a lot of memory
>
> Feh. The FAA distributes the airway database in an extremely verbose text
> format which is about 10 meg in raw format, but compresses down (with gzip)
> to a little under a meg. The only data in the file which doesn't already
> need to be stored anyway (i.e. fix coordinates) is a list of which fixes
> make up each airway. There's 42k records in the file. If you used a
> 32-bit pointer for each fix, plus some per-airway information (I count 2240
> airways), the whole thing fits into under 200k. This is nothing.

G-D usenet. There's always some smartass who actually knows what he's
talking about to come along and spoil the fun!

--
Dan

"Gut feeling"

Intestinologists concur that the human gut does not contain any
rational thoughts.

What the human gut *is* full of is moderately well
known.

C J Campbell[_1_]
July 13th 07, 09:31 PM
On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" > said:

> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
>>> greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>
>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
>> that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
>> 496 lacks...
>
> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>
> -Robert

They already had those in the MX20, which I think is being sold by Garmin now.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell[_1_]
July 13th 07, 09:33 PM
On 2007-07-12 15:45:27 -0700, B A R R Y > said:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> > wrote:
>
>> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>
>
> Can't you just program the route from Navaid to Navaid, and if
> necessary, add the intersections where the airway bends?

You could, but the MX20 showed things like MEA.


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Peter Clark
July 14th 07, 12:30 AM
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:31:55 -0700, C J Campbell
> wrote:

>They already had those in the MX20, which I think is being sold by Garmin now.

The GMX200. Nice unit, slightly larger screen and faster processor
than the MX20 they built it from.

Gig 601XL Builder
July 16th 07, 02:17 PM
C J Campbell wrote:
> On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" >
> said:
>> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>>> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
>>>> and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>>
>>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
>>> features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
>>> features that the 496 lacks...
>>
>> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>
>> -Robert
>

Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.

Matt Barrow[_4_]
July 16th 07, 04:18 PM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>C J Campbell wrote:
>> On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" >
>> said:
>>> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>>>> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
>>>>> and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>>>
>>>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
>>>> features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
>>>> features that the 496 lacks...
>>>
>>> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>>> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>>> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>>
>>> -Robert
>>
>
> Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.

The G1000 had ChartView (coming "soon" to some installations) whcih has the
LOW-ENROUTE charts.

Matt Barrow[_4_]
July 16th 07, 04:35 PM
"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>C J Campbell wrote:
>>> On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" >
>>> said:
>>>> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>>>>> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
>>>>>> and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>>>>
>>>>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
>>>>> features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
>>>>> features that the 496 lacks...
>>>>
>>>> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>>>> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>>>> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>>>
>>>> -Robert
>>>
>>
>> Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.
>
> The G1000 had ChartView (coming "soon" to some installations) whcih has
> the LOW-ENROUTE charts.
'Scuse me, JeppView.

Peter Clark
July 16th 07, 06:18 PM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:35:44 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
> wrote:

>
>"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>>C J Campbell wrote:
>>>> On 2007-07-12 14:56:59 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" >
>>>> said:
>>>>> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>>>>>> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest
>>>>>>> and greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little
>>>>>> features that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big
>>>>>> features that the 496 lacks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>>>>> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>>>>> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Robert
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cessna also has it in the G1000 in the Mustang.
>>
>> The G1000 had ChartView (coming "soon" to some installations) whcih has
>> the LOW-ENROUTE charts.
>'Scuse me, JeppView.

AAUI, JeppView contains only SID/STAR, airport, and approach charts,
not enroute. At least that's all that was available in the 2007 182T
I just flew.

Doug[_1_]
July 16th 07, 06:22 PM
Garmin will announce automatic, seamless updating of databases via
satellite radio.

Gig 601XL Builder
July 16th 07, 07:13 PM
Doug wrote:
> Garmin will announce automatic, seamless updating of databases via
> satellite radio.

Is that guess or a dream?

Marco Leon
July 16th 07, 08:06 PM
After I posted a similar question a little while back, someone suggested the
following link. Think 3-D terrain awareness.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=148&pID=9157

The more I think about it, the more it seems logical. A constant forward
view driven by the GPS-derived altitude would still provide a level of
terrain awareness without the need to develop/incorporate an AHRS.

Marco





> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
> greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>
> My pattern has been to jump 2 model series or when there is a
> significant change. I have a 396 in the Bonanza that has earned it's
> keep with the XM weather incorporation. This year I upgraded my audio
> panel to utilize the audio input.
>
> Speculation?
>
> Bob
>

john smith[_2_]
July 16th 07, 09:21 PM
How long has it been now since Garmin promised support for Mac's, three
years?
I don't believe Garmin-rumors until the product is in the vendor's hands.

Marco Leon
July 17th 07, 04:07 PM
I don't think anyone here is claiming first, second, or even third-hand
knowledge of the new (if any) Garmin portable. It's all just fun
speculation.

Besides, as a Mac-user, you should be used to the lack of third-party
software support ;)

Marco

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> How long has it been now since Garmin promised support for Mac's, three
> years?
> I don't believe Garmin-rumors until the product is in the vendor's hands.

Ray Andraka
July 18th 07, 05:57 PM
Robert M. Gary wrote:

> On Jul 12, 6:09 am, Nathan Young > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:36:05 -0700, wrote:
>>
>>>Oshkosh seems to be the place where Garmin rolls out their latest and
>>>greatest products. Any speculation on what the next will be?
>>
>>From a software standpoint, there are probably lots of little features
>>that can be improved, but I cannot think of any big features that the
>>496 lacks...
>
>
> Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
> just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
> carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>
> -Robert
>

Yeah, that's been my hot button too. I asked Garmin for airways when I
got my GPSIII about 10 years ago. Still no airways though.

Ray Andraka
July 18th 07, 06:02 PM
B A R R Y wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:56:59 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Airways. Until they put airways in the GPS systems they will still be
>>just help tools. This is the same with the G1000. I still have to
>>carry all my charts and reference them often in flight.
>>
>
>
> Can't you just program the route from Navaid to Navaid, and if
> necessary, add the intersections where the airway bends?
>
> Airways always run from something to something else (a Navaid or
> intersection). Even a current databased 196 has the pints that define
> an airway. While you still need the chart to program it, once it's
> programmed, you can easily follow an airway.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Thanks!

Yeah, you can program your path in nav-aid to nav-aid to intersection to
navaid. It's a pain and requires the charts though. For example, my
flights to the Baltimore area are ORW-V16-ENO-SWANN. To put that into
the Garmin requires you to enter ORW CCC DPK JFK DIXIE CYN VCN ENO
SWANN, all by scrolling through the alphabet. That's barely acceptable
when on the ground before you have the engine running. It sucks trying
to do it in flight for a wholesale routing change, which usually happens
when the weather is crap to begin with. I don't know why Garmin can't
do the airways. Some of the old Loran boxes had it, so why can't it be
done in a modern GPS that has everything else down to the color of your
shoelaces in it?

B A R R Y[_2_]
July 18th 07, 07:19 PM
Ray Andraka wrote:
> Some of the old Loran boxes had it, so why can't it be
> done in a modern GPS that has everything else down to the color of your
> shoelaces in it?

Good point.

You know what I'd like to see? A folding bluetooth or IR QWERTY
keyboard, like the versions available for Pocket PC or Palm devices.

Dave Butler
July 18th 07, 08:31 PM
Ray Andraka wrote:
Some of the old Loran boxes had it, so why can't it be
> done in a modern GPS that has everything else down to the color of your
> shoelaces in it?

GNS480

Peter Clark
July 25th 07, 09:15 PM
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:00:39 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
> wrote:


>> What happens if you're needing to leave or join the airway midway,
>> such as at an intersection bend?
>>
>> If you were to program the airway as a waypoint, wouldn't the unit
>> expect you to fly it from beginning to end?
>
>In the King GPS I had you put two way points and the airway. You could
>enter and exit the airway at any waypoint. However, because the GPS
>had airways it was smart enough to make all the airway turns and not
>just go direct from the first way point to the last (which may have a
>mountain in the middle).

Well, Cessna has announced the bug fix/feature list for the latest
G1000 software. It does include airways in the flight plan.

7/23/07 - SB 07-34-02A

Fixes the departure/arrival not overwriting waypoints properly bug
Fixes the 400 storm cell issue with the GDL69A. Also enhances pilots
interface (whatever that means)
Adds inset map into the reversionary mode
Audible alert for user selected BARO minimums
Allows transponder code entry via FMS knob
Adds RX and SQ indicators to the TX indicator for VHF comms
Allows user-selectable lookahead time for track vector
Adds victor airways to flight plan capability
Changes to TAWS system to reduce nuisance alerts, and adds an inhibit
key
Changes splash screen on the MFD to show database status differently
Auto-acknowledge Aural Alert (Configuration changes to ensure aural
alerts are provided at system startup, whatever that means)
Adds support for JeppView
Adds support for Garmin SafeTaxi and FliteChart
Allows XM channel to be dialled in directly
Adds current track bug on HSI
Adds wind component breakout window
Adds VNAV guidance
Adds bug for DH/MDA
Auto-disables TIS on the ground to prevent nuisance alerts, adds "TIS
UNAVAILABLE" mute key
Enhances highlighting of waypoints underlying depicted TFRs
Adds support for ADF Superflag when ADF Superflag signal is sensed

Mark Hansen
July 25th 07, 10:08 PM
On 07/25/07 13:15, Peter Clark wrote:
>
> Well, Cessna has announced the bug fix/feature list for the latest
> G1000 software. It does include airways in the flight plan.
>
> 7/23/07 - SB 07-34-02A
>
> Fixes the departure/arrival not overwriting waypoints properly bug
> Fixes the 400 storm cell issue with the GDL69A. Also enhances pilots
> interface (whatever that means)
> Adds inset map into the reversionary mode
> Audible alert for user selected BARO minimums
> Allows transponder code entry via FMS knob
> Adds RX and SQ indicators to the TX indicator for VHF comms
> Allows user-selectable lookahead time for track vector
> Adds victor airways to flight plan capability
> Changes to TAWS system to reduce nuisance alerts, and adds an inhibit
> key
> Changes splash screen on the MFD to show database status differently
> Auto-acknowledge Aural Alert (Configuration changes to ensure aural
> alerts are provided at system startup, whatever that means)
> Adds support for JeppView
> Adds support for Garmin SafeTaxi and FliteChart
> Allows XM channel to be dialled in directly
> Adds current track bug on HSI
> Adds wind component breakout window
> Adds VNAV guidance
> Adds bug for DH/MDA

Oh ... I hate it when they add bugs ;-\

> Auto-disables TIS on the ground to prevent nuisance alerts, adds "TIS
> UNAVAILABLE" mute key
> Enhances highlighting of waypoints underlying depicted TFRs
> Adds support for ADF Superflag when ADF Superflag signal is sensed



--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

July 26th 07, 12:17 AM
Thanks Guys. It sounds like the bank account (and credit card
balance) will not be assalted this year.

Bob

~^ beancounter ~^
July 29th 07, 04:20 AM
On Jul 25, 5:17 pm, wrote:
> Thanks Guys. It sounds like the bank account (and credit card
> balance) will not be assalted this year.
>
> Bob


heck yea...start saving up and chattin' up the mrs. for next year......

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