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Michael Petukhov
August 26th 03, 11:16 AM
Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash

by Luciana Bohne


You might think that reading about a Podunk University's English
teacher's attempt to connect the dots between the poverty of American
education and the gullibility of the American public may be a little
trivial, considering we've embarked on the first, openly-confessed
imperial adventure of senescent capitalism in the US, but bear with me.
The question my experiences in the classroom raise is why have these
young people been educated to such abysmal depths of ignorance.

"I don't read," says a junior without the slightest self-consciousness.
She has not the smallest hint that professing a habitual preference for
not reading at a university is like bragging in ordinary life that one
chooses not to breathe. She is in my "World Literature" class. She has
to read novels by African, Latin American, and Asian authors. She is
not there by choice: it's just a "distribution" requirement for
graduation, and it's easier than philosophy -she thinks.

The novel she has trouble reading is Isabel Allende's "Of Love and
Shadows," set in the post-coup terror of Pinochet's junta's Nazi-style
regime in Chile, 1973-1989. No one in the class, including the English
majors, can write a focused essay of analysis, so I have to teach that.
No one in the class knows where Chile is, so I make photocopies of
general information from world guide surveys. No one knows what
socialism or fascism is, so I spend time writing up digestible
definitions. No one knows what Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" is, and I
supply it because it's impossible to understand the theme of the novel
without a basic knowledge of that work - which used to be required
reading a few generations ago. And no one in the class has ever heard
of 11 September 1973, the CIA-sponsored coup which terminated Chile's
mature democracy. There is complete shock when I supply US de-
classified documents proving US collusion with the generals' coup and
the assassination of elected president, Salvador Allende.

Geography, history, philosophy, and political science - all missing
from their preparation. I realize that my students are, in fact, the
oppressed, as Paulo Freire's "The Pedagogy of the Oppressed" pointed
out, and that they are paying for their own oppression. So, I patiently
explain: no, our government has not been the friend of democracy in
Chile; yes, our government did fund both the coup and the junta torture-
machine; yes, the same goes for most of Latin America. Then, one
student asks, "Why?" Well, I say, the CIA and the corporations run
roughshod over the world in part because of the ignorance of the people
of the United States, which apparently is induced by formal education,
reinforced by the media, and cheered by Hollywood. As the more people
read, the less they know and the more indoctrinated they become, you
get this national enabling stupidity to attain which they go into
bottomless pools of debt. If it weren't tragic, it would be funny.

Meanwhile, this expensive stupidity facilitates US funding of the
bloody work of death squads, juntas, and terror regimes abroad. It
permits the war we are waging - an unfair, illegal, unjust, illogical,
and expensive war, which announces to the world the failure of our
intelligence and, by the way, the creeping weakness of our economic
system. Every man, woman, and child killed by a bomb, bullet, famine,
or polluted water is a murder - and a war crime. And it signals the
impotence of American education to produce brains equipped with the
bare necessities for democratic survival: analyzing and asking
questions.

Let me put it succinctly: I don't think serious education is possible
in America. Anything you touch in the annals of knowledge is a foe of
this system of commerce and profit, run amok. The only education that
can be permitted is if it acculturates to the status quo, as happens in
the expensive schools, or if it produces people to police and enforce
the status quo, as in the state school where I teach. Significantly, at
my school, which is a third-tier university, servicing working-class,
first-generation college graduates who enter lower-echelon jobs in the
civil service, education, or middle management, the favored academic
concentrations are communications, criminal justice, and social work--
basically how to mystify, cage, and control the masses.

This education is a vast waste of the resources and potential of the
young. It is boring beyond belief and useless--except to the powers and
interests that depend on it. When A Ukranian student, a three-week
arrival on these shores, writes the best-organized and most profound
essay in English of the class, American education has something to
answer for--especially to our youth.

But the detritus and debris that American education has become is both
planned and instrumental. It's why our media succeeds in telling lies.
It's why our secretary of state can quote from a graduate-student
paper, claiming confidently that the stolen data came from the highest
intelligence sources. It's why Picasso's "Guernica" can be covered up
during his preposterous "report" to the UN without anyone guessing the
political significance of this gesture and the fascist sensibility that
it protects.

Cultural fascism manifests itself in an aversion to thought and
cultural refinement. "When I hear the word 'culture,'" Goebbels
said, "I reach for my revolver." One of the infamous and telling
reforms the Pinochet regime implemented was educational reform. The
basic goal was to end the university's role as a source of social
criticism and political opposition. The order came to dismantle the
departments of philosophy, social and political science, humanities and
the arts--areas in which political discussions were likely to occur.
The universities were ordered to issue degrees only in business
management, computer programming, engineering, medicine and dentistry -
vocational training schools, which in reality is what American
education has come to resemble, at least at the level of mass
education. Our students can graduate without ever touching a foreign
language, philosophy, elements of any science, music or art, history,
and political science, or economics. In fact, our students learn to
live in an electoral democracy devoid of politics - a feature the
dwindling crowds at the voting booths well illustrate.

The poet Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote that, in the rapacity that the
industrial revolution created, people first surrendered their minds or
the capacity to reason, then their hearts or the capacity to empathize,
until all that was left of the original human equipment was the senses
or their selfish demands for gratification. At that point, humans
entered the stage of market commodities and market consumers--one more
thing in the commercial landscape. Without minds or hearts, they are
instrumentalized to buy whatever deadens their clamoring and frightened
senses--official lies, immoral wars, Barbies, and bankrupt educations.

Meanwhile, in my state, the governor has ordered a 10% cut across the
board for all departments in the state - including education.


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Luciana Bohne teaches film and literature at Edinboro University in
Pennsylvania. Please send your comments/feedback/discussion on this
article to . ? Copyright Luciana
Bohne 2003 For fair use only/ pour usage ?uitable seulement .

Kirk Stant
August 26th 03, 04:33 PM
(Michael Petukhov) wrote in message >...
> Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash


1. So what. In an open society, it is easy to find examples of all
the wrong things. Proves absolutely nothing. Anyone who has had the
fortune to live in several different societies knows that one on one,
people are pretty much all alike (good and bad). Societies, however
(cultural, religious, governmental) can be vastly different.

2. And Michael, WHAT THE **** DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MILITARY
AVIATION? Go post this stuff on alt.bull****.whogas, where it will be
gleefully accepted as the gospel truth.

All this from a Russian, who should know better about believing what
he reads. Sigh.

Kirk

Spread Eagle
August 26th 03, 06:51 PM
(Michael Petukhov) wrote in message >...

The demise of the American public school system is well known and
documented, and can be directly traced to to unionization of teachers
in the 70s. It was at that point that public schools ceased to
primarily be places to educate children, and instead became primarily
places to employ union members. It's interesting, even telling of
pre-existing biases, that the writer latched upon students' ignorance
of the 1973 coup in Chile, and of the CIA's complicity therein, as
proof of the demise of the American public schools, when far better
proof is much closer at hand.

Spread Eagle

Jack Linthicum
August 27th 03, 01:48 PM
(Michael Petukhov) wrote in message >...
> Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash
>
> by Luciana Bohne
>
>
> You might think that reading about a Podunk University's English
> teacher's attempt to connect the dots between the poverty of American
> education and the gullibility of the American public may be a little
> trivial, considering we've embarked on the first, openly-confessed
> imperial adventure of senescent capitalism in the US, but bear with me.
> The question my experiences in the classroom raise is why have these
> young people been educated to such abysmal depths of ignorance.
>
>First, Edinboro really is a podunk university, the U.S. has about
2200 four year degree granting universities and colleges and Edinboro
is not in the first or second rank. Secondly, although I am sure that
the Chilean coup was important in 1973, that was 30 years ago. There
are very few Fascists or Communists on the streets today. I get a
slight hint that perhaps Ms Bohne's class may have been pulling the
pretentuous leg of their European teacher. She is, after all, an
internationally published voice of what's going on out there.
In case Ms Bohne is worried about the actual reading habits of those
in real academic positions I met several in California who do not read
the newspapers because they are just 'liberal trash.' Remember the
line in Being There where Chauncy says he doesn't read, and all the
President's advisors agree it's a waste of time.

Those who carry on about our schools and school teachers are often the
same people who invent statewide and nationwide tests of 'standard'
knowledge and then whine at the teachers because their kids didn't get
perfect scores. The University of California at Berkeley used to be
one of the top three schools in the country, rated academically with
Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Stanford was way down the list. Then
someone decided that the movements of the 60s were somehow signs of
academic elitism and now Cal ain't even in the top 10, probably now
below UCLA. Stanford is in that top 5 or 10 because they don't have
100 legislators making up their hiring lists and admissions.

Most Europeans don't understand the American style of education, early
on the Eurps are told whether they are smart or not and the unsmart
ones end up in trades training, the smart ones at the few
universities. Almost all of these are national universities, run by
the government, usually what would pass for socialist governments. If
you think teachers' unions are pushy try a union with the ruling
government party behind it.

American youth are told they need a college education to succeed. This
breeds the Edinboros of the US, in California they worked out the idea
that a cheap source of the first two-years of college could be
obtained at a two-year junior or community college. The next level
after the JC/CC was either a California state university (one system)
or the University of California (a different, somewhat higher rated
system).

Michael Petukhov
August 27th 03, 09:37 PM
(Jack Linthicum) wrote in message >...
> (Michael Petukhov) wrote in message >...
> > Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash
> >
> > by Luciana Bohne
> >
> >
> > You might think that reading about a Podunk University's English
> > teacher's attempt to connect the dots between the poverty of American
> > education and the gullibility of the American public may be a little
> > trivial, considering we've embarked on the first, openly-confessed
> > imperial adventure of senescent capitalism in the US, but bear with me.
> > The question my experiences in the classroom raise is why have these
> > young people been educated to such abysmal depths of ignorance.
> >
> First, Edinboro really is a podunk university, the U.S. has about
> 2200 four year degree granting universities and colleges and Edinboro
> is not in the first or second rank.

Although this may or may not be true I do not see how relative ranking
of a few US top universities discussed below is related to the main message
of the article. Namely that generally US education system is, according to
the author, the way to "Learn to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash".
If you disagree you have to prove that 1) it is not "learning to be stupid"
or/and 2) US Culture is not "the Culture of Cash". Stanford problems
of being 5-th rank only in US has nothing to do with all that.

Michael

> Secondly, although I am sure that
> the Chilean coup was important in 1973, that was 30 years ago. There
> are very few Fascists or Communists on the streets today. I get a
> slight hint that perhaps Ms Bohne's class may have been pulling the
> pretentuous leg of their European teacher. She is, after all, an
> internationally published voice of what's going on out there.
> In case Ms Bohne is worried about the actual reading habits of those
> in real academic positions I met several in California who do not read
> the newspapers because they are just 'liberal trash.' Remember the
> line in Being There where Chauncy says he doesn't read, and all the
> President's advisors agree it's a waste of time.
>
> Those who carry on about our schools and school teachers are often the
> same people who invent statewide and nationwide tests of 'standard'
> knowledge and then whine at the teachers because their kids didn't get
> perfect scores. The University of California at Berkeley used to be
> one of the top three schools in the country, rated academically with
> Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Stanford was way down the list. Then
> someone decided that the movements of the 60s were somehow signs of
> academic elitism and now Cal ain't even in the top 10, probably now
> below UCLA. Stanford is in that top 5 or 10 because they don't have
> 100 legislators making up their hiring lists and admissions.
>
> Most Europeans don't understand the American style of education, early
> on the Eurps are told whether they are smart or not and the unsmart
> ones end up in trades training, the smart ones at the few
> universities. Almost all of these are national universities, run by
> the government, usually what would pass for socialist governments. If
> you think teachers' unions are pushy try a union with the ruling
> government party behind it.
>
> American youth are told they need a college education to succeed. This
> breeds the Edinboros of the US, in California they worked out the idea
> that a cheap source of the first two-years of college could be
> obtained at a two-year junior or community college. The next level
> after the JC/CC was either a California state university (one system)
> or the University of California (a different, somewhat higher rated
> system).

Alan Lothian
August 27th 03, 10:41 PM
In article >, Michael
Petukhov > wrote:
>
> Although this may or may not be true

Indeed, it may or may not be true. It might even be half true and half
untrue, or find itself in some intermediate position betwixt these
poles.

But it is *outrageously off-topic* for both the groups to which you
have chosen to post it.

Not only that, it is flamebait; by pure chance, the only people who
have responded thus far are in calm, decent and gentlemanly mode.

What's the Russian for troll?

--
"The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun

My .mac.com address is a spam sink.
If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk

Jack Linthicum
August 28th 03, 02:15 AM
Alan Lothian > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Michael
> Petukhov > wrote:
> >
> > Although this may or may not be true
>
> Indeed, it may or may not be true. It might even be half true and half
> untrue, or find itself in some intermediate position betwixt these
> poles.
>
> But it is *outrageously off-topic* for both the groups to which you
> have chosen to post it.
>
> Not only that, it is flamebait; by pure chance, the only people who
> have responded thus far are in calm, decent and gentlemanly mode.
>
> What's the Russian for troll?

Smirnitsky says "troll" with a soft sign.

Michael Petukhov
August 28th 03, 10:48 AM
Alan Lothian > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Michael
> Petukhov > wrote:
> >
> > Although this may or may not be true
>
> Indeed, it may or may not be true. It might even be half true and half
> untrue, or find itself in some intermediate position betwixt these
> poles.
>
> But it is *outrageously off-topic* for both the groups to which you
> have chosen to post it.

Yeah i know. Howeverr may be I am interested in people's of these
particular NGs opinions. Why not? Moreover outrageously off-topics
here are so often.

>
> Not only that, it is flamebait; by pure chance, the only people who
> have responded thus far are in calm, decent and gentlemanly mode.

they all must, or you might have a different opinion?

>
> What's the Russian for troll?

You mean russian word for troll? There are many actually.
I mean for each english word we have some 5-10 different
synonyms to be used in a different context, situation or
persons to whom you speak.

Oh.. I forgot the main point... I did not understood would you agree with the
author of that article or not?

Michael

Vince Brannigan
August 28th 03, 11:11 AM
Spread Eagle wrote:
> Vince Brannigan > wrote in message >...
>
>
>>Of course the fact that teachers are unionized in almost every OECD
>>country seems to have escaped the poster.
>
>
> Nah. US schools. US public employee unions. Take your ritalin and
> try to stay focused on point.
>

Our unions are weak compared to teachers unions in other countries.
Perhaops our schools would catch up if they had stronger unions

>
>>So post hoc can't be propter
>>hoc.
>
>
> Yeah, if they weren't causally related. But here they are. Ipso
> facto.
>

No, you mean "ipse dixit"


>>Perhaps the poster had poor schooling?
>
>
> BS, JD, MBA, all union-free. And, union-free private sector
> profiteering since. A little defensive are we? Perhaps the reflexive
> poster is feeling a little outed as a public sector labor goon
> "educator."

Is there a name and adress that goes with these initials? Or do you
sling mud anonymously?

Prof. Vincent Brannigan
University of Maryland, College Park Md.

Richard Bell
August 28th 03, 05:37 PM
In article >,
Spread Eagle > wrote:
>Vince Brannigan > wrote in message
>...
>
>> Of course the fact that teachers are unionized in almost every OECD
>> country seems to have escaped the poster.
>
>Nah. US schools. US public employee unions. Take your ritalin and
>try to stay focused on point.
>
>> So post hoc can't be propter
>> hoc.
>
>Yeah, if they weren't causally related. But here they are. Ipso
>facto.
>
>> Perhaps the poster had poor schooling?
>
>BS, JD, MBA, all union-free. And, union-free private sector
>profiteering since. A little defensive are we? Perhaps the reflexive
>poster is feeling a little outed as a public sector labor goon
>"educator."
>
>Spread Eagle

But you cannot prove a causal relationship; unless, the problem is peculiar
to the USA. My primary and secondary education was the result of unionised
teachers, and it was reasonably useful. The decline in education in Ontario
(and the rest of Canada, near as I can tell) is attributable political
interference to ignore reality [general students feel bad, so eliminate the
general level courses and dumb down the 'advanced' courses so the general
level student can pass]. I consider myself lucky to live in a country where
no one has successfully sued a professor over an esteem-busting low grade.

To carry this tirade outside of the topic, I am infuriated that people
want equality between two things that cannot be equal. No legislation will
make below average students perform as well as above average students and
people need the threat of failure to push them to excel [why work at it if
they will pass me, anyways].

Andrew Chaplin
August 28th 03, 08:36 PM
Richard Bell wrote:

> But you cannot prove a causal relationship; unless, the problem is peculiar
> to the USA. My primary and secondary education was the result of unionised
> teachers, and it was reasonably useful. The decline in education in Ontario
> (and the rest of Canada, near as I can tell) is attributable political
> interference to ignore reality [general students feel bad, so eliminate the
> general level courses and dumb down the 'advanced' courses so the general
> level student can pass]. I consider myself lucky to live in a country where
> no one has successfully sued a professor over an esteem-busting low grade.
>
> To carry this tirade outside of the topic, I am infuriated that people
> want equality between two things that cannot be equal. No legislation will
> make below average students perform as well as above average students and
> people need the threat of failure to push them to excel [why work at it if
> they will pass me, anyways].

I had an adequate schooling in an Ontario collegiate institute's
advanced programme in the early '70s. Although I did not graduate from
Grade 13, I had a Junior Matric, and that was good enough to qualify
for the Officer Classification Training Plan after some time in the
ranks. I did not have much contact with the school system again until
my niece and nephew were in high school -- I was appalled; they could
not parse, they couldn't apply rudimentary logic to criticize written
work (their maths were good, but I think that was mainly genetic and
from trying to beat their dad at cards and backgammon). I only
re-entered the school system as a mature student in 1995 following the
CF's major reductions in combat arms officers. There was no slack cut,
I am happy to say, but there was a real difference between students
who qualified for honours programmes and those who did not. Frankly,
the difference seemed to be those who had an idea of scholarship and
academe, and those who did not. Sad to say, the divide seem to cleave
along socio-economic strata, but I suspect largely because those whose
parents were grads knew where there kids could find help when they
needed it and steered them there.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Michael Petukhov
August 28th 03, 10:07 PM
Alan Lothian > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Michael
> Petukhov > wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Yeah i know. Howeverr may be I am interested in people's of these
> > particular NGs opinions. Why not? Moreover outrageously off-topics
> > here are so often.
>
> So you are part of the problem, and nothing to do with the solution.

Depends on what problem you are talking about. Moreover there are
problems with mathematical prove of no solution at all.

> >
> > >
> > > What's the Russian for troll?
> >
> > You mean russian word for troll? There are many actually.
> > I mean for each english word we have some 5-10 different
> > synonyms to be used in a different context, situation or
> > persons to whom you speak.
>
> While I am an admirer of the great Russian language, I do not believe
> that it has between 3 and 6 million lexical items.

Come on! At very best modern English (partucularly its US version)
is reduced to 3-4 thousands. Maximum!

>
> > Oh.. I forgot the main point... I did not understood would you agree with the
> > author of that article or not?
>
> None of your bloody business, not here, anyway.

Don't you think "not here, anyway" sounds a bit ambiguous...?

>
> *plonk*
>
> I apologize to all others for making a further contribution to this
> outrageously off-topic thread here (smn) and in ram, with which smn
> generally enjoys friendly relations.
>
> The rest is silence.

No problem. There will be many others much less cowardly.

Michael

t_mark
August 31st 03, 01:50 AM
A film and literature prof? What the hell do you expect from a FILM AND
LITERATURE PROF?

t_mark
August 31st 03, 01:54 AM
> 1. So what. In an open society, it is easy to find examples of all
> the wrong things.

It's also easy, in America, to find out _about_ those wrong things, a little
nuance our Canadian tut-tutter seems to miss (although Canadians don't seem
to have a strong grasp of many things American in the first place). As
compared to the Soviet Union, or China, or Japan, or even many topics in
Europe where it's difficult if not impossible to find out about these things
on your own regardless.

Howard Berkowitz
September 1st 03, 12:15 AM
In article >, "t_mark"
> wrote:

> > 1. So what. In an open society, it is easy to find examples of all
> > the wrong things.
>
> It's also easy, in America, to find out _about_ those wrong things, a
> little
> nuance our Canadian tut-tutter seems to miss (although Canadians don't
> seem
> to have a strong grasp of many things American in the first place). As
> compared to the Soviet Union, or China, or Japan, or even many topics in
> Europe where it's difficult if not impossible to find out about these
> things
> on your own regardless.
>
>

I'm not a Canadian-American (or American-Canadian) like AHS, but I've
worked extensively for Canadian companies and had time to learn some of
the cultural differences. Indeed, I make many of my Canadian friends
nervous when I tell Canadian political/ethnic/cultural jokes. There's a
vague flavor of the Japanese concept of the "strange gaijin" who knows
too much about the culture, eh?

The problem is that Canada and the USA have so many superficial (and
also deep) similarities that it can be hard to pick up the differences.

Michael Petukhov
September 1st 03, 10:08 AM
Howard Berkowitz > wrote in message >...
> In article >, "t_mark"
> > wrote:
>
> > > 1. So what. In an open society, it is easy to find examples of all
> > > the wrong things.
> >
> > It's also easy, in America, to find out _about_ those wrong things, a
> > little
> > nuance our Canadian tut-tutter seems to miss (although Canadians don't
> > seem
> > to have a strong grasp of many things American in the first place). As
> > compared to the Soviet Union, or China, or Japan, or even many topics in
> > Europe where it's difficult if not impossible to find out about these
> > things
> > on your own regardless.
> >
> >
>
> I'm not a Canadian-American (or American-Canadian) like AHS, but I've
> worked extensively for Canadian companies and had time to learn some of
> the cultural differences. Indeed, I make many of my Canadian friends
> nervous when I tell Canadian political/ethnic/cultural jokes. There's a
> vague flavor of the Japanese concept of the "strange gaijin" who knows
> too much about the culture, eh?

Concept of gaijin is not those who knows too much about the culture.
I live and work there for three years and as far as I understand
this word is considered to be a bad word, is not used publicly,
at least not before foreigners. The meaning of gaijin is a foreigner
who do not undertsand rules of proper japanese style life and behaivior.
Since both are quite complex particularly for beginners, almost all
foreigners in Japan are a sort of gaijins. I am not sure what is the fraction
of ordinary japanese share this views on foreigners but must
be not so small fraction.

Michael

>
> The problem is that Canada and the USA have so many superficial (and
> also deep) similarities that it can be hard to pick up the differences.

Michael Petukhov
September 1st 03, 10:21 PM
(Brian Allardice) wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> says...
>
> >Concept of gaijin is not those who knows too much about the culture.
> >I live and work there for three years and as far as I understand
> >this word is considered to be a bad word, is not used publicly,
> >at least not before foreigners. The meaning of gaijin is a foreigner
> >who do not undertsand rules of proper japanese style life and behaivior.
> >Since both are quite complex particularly for beginners, almost all
> >foreigners in Japan are a sort of gaijins. I am not sure what is the fraction
> >of ordinary japanese share this views on foreigners but must
> >be not so small fraction.
>
> I'm not so sure about that. My American friends certainly took offence, but it
> didn't seem to particularly worry anyone else. Note that these same fellows
> also objected to smoking in bars... go figure.... Upon visiting various
> friends I was, until known to the staff, generally announced as "gaijin-san"
> (the san part being important, mind) which I generally translated as "There is
> a foreign gentleman here to see you" which struck me as entirely satisfactory.
>
> Cheers,
> dba

Russian scientists in Tsucuba used the same trick addresing to each
other in public like "hey, gaijin how are you doing?" or in a seminar
"that idea is a bit to complex to my gaijin mind", with always full
success. I met also a japanese friend who spend 5-6 years in europe
who said he became a gaijin after that here in japan.

Michael

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