See & Avoid - Bonanzas to Oshkosh

[Jay Honeck]

I just had this pointed out to me by a friend, and it's worth noting:

If you're planning on arriving in OSH this coming Saturday, not only
will you miss the fly-in pool party in Iowa City (see:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/iowa_city_pool_party.htm), but you might
end up in a perpetual hold around Rush Lake due to over 100 Bonanzas
arriving, en masse, between 2 and 3 PM in a flight from Rockford, IL.

Since these things don't always happen on a tight schedule -- and
there will be a giant slug of folks who have been holding trying to
get in immediately after the B2OSH folks -- you might say that
anywhere from 1 till 5 PM is a "bad" time to arrive.

Unless you *enjoy* the hold around Rush Lake, plan your arrival for
another time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jul 16, 5:53 am, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> I just had this pointed out to me by a friend, and it's worth noting:
>
> If you're planning on arriving in OSH this coming Saturday, not only
> will you miss the fly-in pool party in Iowa City (see:http://www.alexisparkinn.com/iowa_city_pool_party.htm), but you might
> end up in a perpetual hold around Rush Lake due to over 100 Bonanzas
> arriving, en masse, between 2 and 3 PM in a flight from Rockford, IL.
>
> Since these things don't always happen on a tight schedule -- and
> there will be a giant slug of folks who have been holding trying to
> get in immediately after the B2OSH folks -- you might say that
> anywhere from 1 till 5 PM is a "bad" time to arrive.
>
> Unless you *enjoy* the hold around Rush Lake, plan your arrival for
> another time.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

I've done the caravan arrival before. In truth its a much more
efficient way to get large number of planes in at the same time. Since
it only works when everyone can fly at the exact same speed (and stage
at a nearby airport), it really only works for the type groups. We
were also required to have an FAA employee ride in the lead aircraft.
If the carvans did not exist and everyone had to use the standard
arrival, there would be a lot more waiting for everyone.

-Robert

[Newps]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> I just had this pointed out to me by a friend, and it's worth noting:
>
> If you're planning on arriving in OSH this coming Saturday, not only
> will you miss the fly-in pool party in Iowa City (see:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/iowa_city_pool_party.htm), but you might
> end up in a perpetual hold around Rush Lake due to over 100 Bonanzas
> arriving, en masse, between 2 and 3 PM in a flight from Rockford, IL.
>
> Since these things don't always happen on a tight schedule -- and
> there will be a giant slug of folks who have been holding trying to
> get in immediately after the B2OSH folks -- you might say that
> anywhere from 1 till 5 PM is a "bad" time to arrive.



It's limited to 100 airplanes. In order to participate this year you
had to attend a formal formation flying clinic so there may not be the
full 100 birds this year. The cessna guys started a formation fly in
last year, except they don't know what they're doing.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jul 16, 11:55 am, Newps > wrote:
> Jay Honeck wrote:
> > I just had this pointed out to me by a friend, and it's worth noting:
>
> > If you're planning on arriving in OSH this coming Saturday, not only
> > will you miss the fly-in pool party in Iowa City (see:
> >http://www.alexisparkinn.com/iowa_city_pool_party.htm), but you might
> > end up in a perpetual hold around Rush Lake due to over 100 Bonanzas
> > arriving, en masse, between 2 and 3 PM in a flight from Rockford, IL.
>
> > Since these things don't always happen on a tight schedule -- and
> > there will be a giant slug of folks who have been holding trying to
> > get in immediately after the B2OSH folks -- you might say that
> > anywhere from 1 till 5 PM is a "bad" time to arrive.
>
> It's limited to 100 airplanes. In order to participate this year you
> had to attend a formal formation flying clinic so there may not be the
> full 100 birds this year. The cessna guys started a formation fly in
> last year, except they don't know what they're doing.

I've flown with the Mooney caravan. We had to attend a 2 hour class
before we departed presented by the FAA. I've since heard that they
were requiring previous experience in the caravan on a CFI sign off
that they could hold an airspeed and follow directions.

-Robert

[Ron Lee[_2_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
>. I've since heard that they >were requiring .......
>that they could ...... follow directions.
>
>-Robert
>
So they must have a wife?

Ron Lee

[Montblack]

("Robert M. Gary" wrote)
> I've flown with the Mooney caravan. We had to attend a 2 hour class before
> we departed presented by the FAA. I've since heard that they were
> requiring previous experience in the caravan on a CFI sign off that they
> could hold an airspeed and follow directions.


Video of the 2006 "Mass Arrival" of the 172's

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626910413/bclid769654339/bctid769444256
Cessna Cessna Cessna.....

http://www.airventure.org/
EAA AirVenture Video Gallery
2006 Archive


Paul-Mont

[Al G[_2_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Robert M. Gary" wrote)
>> I've flown with the Mooney caravan. We had to attend a 2 hour class
>> before
>> we departed presented by the FAA. I've since heard that they were
>> requiring previous experience in the caravan on a CFI sign off that they
>> could hold an airspeed and follow directions.
>
>
> Video of the 2006 "Mass Arrival" of the 172's
>
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626910413/bclid769654339/bctid769444256
> Cessna Cessna Cessna.....
>
> http://www.airventure.org/
> EAA AirVenture Video Gallery
> 2006 Archive
>
>
> Paul-Mont
>
>
>

So if a group of whales is a pod,
and a group of geese is a flock,
would this be a "Cloud of Cessnas"

Al G

[RST Engineering]

I thought a group of geese was a gaggle.

Jim



> So if a group of whales is a pod,
> and a group of geese is a flock,
> would this be a "Cloud of Cessnas"
>
> Al G
>
>

[Tina]

A flock of crows is a "murder", an isolated group of trees, a
"corpse', and my favorite: a gathering of school administrators is a
"lack" (of principals).

Any others?

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Tina > said:
>A flock of crows is a "murder", an isolated group of trees, a
>"corpse', and my favorite: a gathering of school administrators is a

"copse", not "corpse".


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
....if you squeeze a MS product into a small enough memory footprint there may
not be sufficient space for it to fall over, thus giving the impression it's
reliable. -- Geoff Lane

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Al G" t> wrote

> So if a group of whales is a pod,
> and a group of geese is a flock,
> would this be a "Cloud of Cessnas"

I think I would just say, "A whole lot of frucking Cessnas!"
--
Jim in NC

[Tina]

Thanks.


And to what group should we assign 'void'? As in, a void of . . . .

[Don Tuite]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:30:59 -0700, "RST Engineering"
> wrote:

>I thought a group of geese was a gaggle.
>
Unless their down has been used in a comforter, in which case they're
a "snuggle."

Don

[Ken Finney]

"Al G" > wrote in message
...
>
> So if a group of whales is a pod,
> and a group of geese is a flock,
> would this be a "Cloud of Cessnas"
>

How about a pride of Cessnas?

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Tina > said:
>
>And to what group should we assign 'void'? As in, a void of . . . .

"pointers". Only C programmers will get that one.


--
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I'm fairly sure that if they took all the porn off the Net, there'd only
be one website left, and it would be called "bring-back-the-porn dot com".
-- Perry Cox, _Scrubs_

[Blueskies]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message ...
> In a previous article, Tina > said:
>>
>>And to what group should we assign 'void'? As in, a void of . . . .
>
> "pointers". Only C programmers will get that one.
>
>


No, I was thinking politicians, as in brain energy...

[John T[_1_]]

Ayup, saturday afternoons are a bad time to arrive, with the mass
arrivals of the type clubs. Its absolute chaos on the ground too, too
many people for the number of flight line volunteers.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> I just had this pointed out to me by a friend, and it's worth noting:
>
> If you're planning on arriving in OSH this coming Saturday, not only
> will you miss the fly-in pool party in Iowa City (see:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/iowa_city_pool_party.htm), but you might
> end up in a perpetual hold around Rush Lake due to over 100 Bonanzas
> arriving, en masse, between 2 and 3 PM in a flight from Rockford, IL.
>
> Since these things don't always happen on a tight schedule -- and
> there will be a giant slug of folks who have been holding trying to
> get in immediately after the B2OSH folks -- you might say that
> anywhere from 1 till 5 PM is a "bad" time to arrive.
>
> Unless you *enjoy* the hold around Rush Lake, plan your arrival for
> another time.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Aluckyguess]

"Al G" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Robert M. Gary" wrote)
>>> I've flown with the Mooney caravan. We had to attend a 2 hour class
>>> before
>>> we departed presented by the FAA. I've since heard that they were
>>> requiring previous experience in the caravan on a CFI sign off that they
>>> could hold an airspeed and follow directions.
>>
>>
>> Video of the 2006 "Mass Arrival" of the 172's
>>
>> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626910413/bclid769654339/bctid769444256
>> Cessna Cessna Cessna.....
>>
>> http://www.airventure.org/
>> EAA AirVenture Video Gallery
>> 2006 Archive
>>
>>
>> Paul-Mont
>>
>>
>>
>
> So if a group of whales is a pod,
>
and a group of geese is a flock,
a flock of flying geese is a gaggle, and that would seem to fit for
cessna's.
>
would this be a "Cloud of Cessnas"
>
> Al G
>
>