LOUD

[Scott Lowrey]

I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.

Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
even the DC-9 in full song can't match.

She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
_that_ sounds like.

-Scott

[Allan Meuli]

> She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> _that_ sounds like.
>
Cool, Scott. I am glad you got to see it. I wish I would have been airport
watching today, though! I did see it parked at Signature this morning.
Looked like it was painted in desert camo colors. There were about 4 or 5
military trainer jets parked there, too.

[BTIZ]

you have not heard loud.. until you hear the F/A-22 on departure..

and yes.. A/B is used on every take off until reaching a safe speed and
altitude in the climb profile..

BT

"Scott Lowrey" > wrote in message
om...
> I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
>
> Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
>
> She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> _that_ sounds like.
>
> -Scott

[william cogswell]

My personal fav is a F-14A chained down in the hi-power runup area at NAS
Qceana in zone 5

"BTIZ" wrote in message > you have not heard loud.. until you hear the
F/A-22 on departure..
>
> and yes.. A/B is used on every take off until reaching a safe speed and
> altitude in the climb profile..
>
> BT
>
> "Scott Lowrey" wrote in message
> ...
> > I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> > used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> > months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> > bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
> >
> > Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> > seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> > show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> > even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
> >
> > She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> > Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> > _that_ sounds like.
> >
> > -Scott
>
>

[Gerry Caron]

"Bob Noel" > wrote in message
...
>
> if you want loud, try the F-111.
>
Ahh, but the 'varks are gone and so are the rhinos. :-(

Since the BUFFs and tankers that are left are all turbofans, I'd say the
king of loud these days is the Bone. A full burner TO will rattle windows
and set off alarms for a mile.

Gerry

[JSH517]

Gerry wrote;

>Ahh, but the 'varks are gone and so are the rhinos. :-(
>
Another oldie but goodie was the old Thud, I'd have to put that right up there
with the Bone.

Jim
SAC Cop
78-88

[Les Matheson]

SR-71 engine run in the middle of the night on Okinawa. Talk about rock and
roll.

Les

"william cogswell" > wrote in message
. ..
> My personal fav is a F-14A chained down in the hi-power runup area at NAS
> Qceana in zone 5
>
> "BTIZ" wrote in message > you have not heard loud.. until you hear the
> F/A-22 on departure..
> >
> > and yes.. A/B is used on every take off until reaching a safe speed and
> > altitude in the climb profile..
> >
> > BT
> >
> > "Scott Lowrey" wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> > > used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> > > months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> > > bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
> > >
> > > Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> > > seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> > > show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> > > even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
> > >
> > > She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> > > Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> > > _that_ sounds like.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> >
> >
>
>

[BTIZ]

if your ready to rock and roll..

sit at the hold back line a third down the runway.. for a B-1 night
multiship departure..

BT

"Les Matheson" > wrote in message
news:G6z4b.20458$Go4.18042@lakeread01...
> SR-71 engine run in the middle of the night on Okinawa. Talk about rock
and
> roll.
>
> Les
>
> "william cogswell" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > My personal fav is a F-14A chained down in the hi-power runup area at
NAS
> > Qceana in zone 5
> >
> > "BTIZ" wrote in message > you have not heard loud.. until you hear the
> > F/A-22 on departure..
> > >
> > > and yes.. A/B is used on every take off until reaching a safe speed
and
> > > altitude in the climb profile..
> > >
> > > BT
> > >
> > > "Scott Lowrey" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so
I'm
> > > > used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> > > > months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> > > > bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
> > > >
> > > > Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> > > > seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real"
air
> > > > show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> > > > even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
> > > >
> > > > She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> > > > Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine
what
> > > > _that_ sounds like.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Neal]

An F-15 can get pretty awesomely loud too, looks vaguely similar to an
F-18, to the layperson, in that it also has twin vertical
stabilizors/rudders but they're straight up instead of angled
outwards. F-15's wing is much larger, and somewhat delta-shaped too.

Good pics for comparison at:
http://www.rijskamp.com/KLu/photos/photo_50.html


On 31 Aug 2003 13:32:31 -0700, (Scott Lowrey)
wrote:

>I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
>used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
>months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
>bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
>
>Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
>seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
>show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
>even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
>
>She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
>Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
>_that_ sounds like.
>
>-Scott

[The Raven]

"Scott Lowrey" > wrote in message
om...
> I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
>
> Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
>
> She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> _that_ sounds like.

Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple buff
takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.


--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.

[JSH517]

The Raven wrote;
>Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple buff
>takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.

Oh come on now, thats not noise that's music :-)

Jim
SAC Cop
78-88

[The Raven]

"JSH517" > wrote in message
...
> The Raven wrote;
> >Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple
buff
> >takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.
>
> Oh come on now, thats not noise that's music :-)

Not when you're trying to sleep and the SAC claims 7am is the earliest
flight (long time ago)


--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.

[Bob Noel]

In article >, "Gerry
Caron" > wrote:

> > if you want loud, try the F-111.
> >
> Ahh, but the 'varks are gone and so are the rhinos. :-(

even the EF's?

and what about the Australians? are theirs all gone too?

>
> Since the BUFFs and tankers that are left are all turbofans, I'd say the
> king of loud these days is the Bone. A full burner TO will rattle windows
> and set off alarms for a mile.

The USAF still has at least one 707 with the old old engines.
Everytime it takes off out of BED there are dozens of noise
complaints. But of course it probably won't match a plane
doing a full burner TO.

--
Bob Noel

[Scott Lowrey]

"Chris Hoffmann" wrote in message ...
> Signature? Good grief....how many FBO's do they run? That's the FBO at
> Mitchell Field in Milwaukee, too.

I had the same thought - Signature? - but for another reason: why would a
fighter be parked there and not over near the military hangars? Cheaper
fuel? : )

[John Kunkel]

"Bob Noel" > wrote in message
news:ihatessppaamm-
>
> if you want loud, try the F-111.

It purrs compared to the Vulcan. Greatest device ever created for turning
fossil fuel into noise.
John

[Billy Beck]

"The Raven" > wrote:

>Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple buff
>takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.

By November of 1972, Barksdale was *too quiet* for me to sleep.

That was very wierd.


Billy

http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php

[B2431]

> Those J57s were turbojets with water injection. When
>they hit the water, it let out a screech you could hear for miles.
>
>Gerry

The trim pad at Langley AFB was across the runway from main base as was CBPO.
The desk jockeys were most cross with us when we would start water. It seems
the prevailing winds made us aim the engines at them and they really failed to
see the humour in the situation.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

[Neal]

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:45:23 GMT, "Scott Lowrey" >
wrote:

>"Neal" wrote in message ...
>> An F-15 can get pretty awesomely loud too, looks vaguely similar to an
>> F-18, to the layperson, in that it also has twin vertical
>> stabilizors/rudders but they're straight up instead of angled
>> outwards. F-15's wing is much larger, and somewhat delta-shaped too.
>>
>> Good pics for comparison at:
>> http://www.rijskamp.com/KLu/photos/photo_50.html
>>
>
>That's an excellent shot, thanks. From my viewing angle and distance, I
>really
>didn't get a good enough look. All I caught were the twin verticals. Looks
>like the key is the wing shape (and angle of verticals). Unfortunately the
>roll
>in my direction put the wings level with me, so couldn't see them.
>

I forgot to mention the F-14, it also has a twin tail, but it'd
probably be pretty rare to see one in Minnesota. I've never even seen
one in person myself, here in north Texas.

Here's a cute photo of a Tomcat.

http://www.rijskamp.com/KLu/photos/photo_66.html

Water skiing, anyone? :-)

[Errol Cavit]

Bob Noel > wrote in message >...
> In article >, "Gerry
> Caron" > wrote:
>
> > > if you want loud, try the F-111.
> > >
> > Ahh, but the 'varks are gone and so are the rhinos. :-(
>
> even the EF's?
>
Yes

> and what about the Australians? are theirs all gone too?
>

No, although there has been a recent suggestion to retire them soon
rather than keep them going for another 15-20 years.

One evening a couple of months ago I was with some friends when we
heard a loud jet. I looked over to the other person with an interest
in aviation, and we both said something like "that's not a modern
civil jet." The RNZAF B727s had just been retired, so they were out.
Then I remembered - "The F-111s are here on exercise this week. It'll
be one of them." Cue disbelief from some others in room that we could
ID an aircraft from sound alone.

<snip>
Cheers
Errol Cavit

[John S. Shinal]

(B2431) wrote:

>The trim pad at Langley AFB was across the runway from main base as was CBPO.
>The desk jockeys were most cross with us when we would start water. It seems
>the prevailing winds made us aim the engines at them and they really failed to
>see the humour in the situation.

What was it, the noise or the pall of black stuff ?



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> (B2431) wrote:
>
>>The trim pad at Langley AFB was across the runway from main base as
>>was CBPO. The desk jockeys were most cross with us when we would start
>>water. It seems the prevailing winds made us aim the engines at them
>>and they really failed to see the humour in the situation.
>
> What was it, the noise or the pall of black stuff ?

I'd have thought they'd be happy to have something to drown out the
racket from NASCAR events at the Speedway.

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[Dan Thomas]

Billy Beck <> wrote in message >...
> "The Raven" > wrote:
>
> >Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple buff
> >takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.
>
> By November of 1972, Barksdale was *too quiet* for me to sleep.
>
> That was very wierd.
>
>
> Billy
>
> http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php

Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
runups.
One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
home. That has to be pretty bad.
Anyone here remember what it was?

Dan

[Tex Houston]

"Dan Thomas" > wrote in message
> Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
> airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
> engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
> fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
> the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
> the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
> carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
> intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
> tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
> runups.
> One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
> hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
> home. That has to be pretty bad.
> Anyone here remember what it was?
>
> Dan

You may have read about it in "Air and Space Magazine", if I remember
correctly. Not exactly sure if this is the aircraft in question but would
almost bet money on it. According to a senior curator I met at the Air
Force Museum when it was tested there it was painful to be anywhere near.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f84sp.htm

Tex

[Carl J. Niedermeyer]

In article >,
(Dan Thomas) wrote:

> Billy Beck <> wrote in message
> >...
> > "The Raven" > wrote:
> >
> > >Try living in a motel at the end of a SAC runway (for 3 months). Triple
> > >buff
> > >takeoffs at 5am, full noise, about 200ft over your head.
> >
> > By November of 1972, Barksdale was *too quiet* for me to sleep.
> >
> > That was very wierd.
> >
> >
> > Billy
> >
> > http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php
>
> Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
> airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
> engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
> fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
> the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
> the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
> carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
> intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
> tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
> runups.
> One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
> hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
> home. That has to be pretty bad.
> Anyone here remember what it was?
>
> Dan

I don't remember the airplane's designation, but I believe it was the
one with the 2 large contrarotating props. The noise from these setups
were very loud as attested to by our fighter pilot's who pulled up
alongside the 4 engine turboprop Soviet TU-95 Bear on intercept missions
during the Cold War and noted the noise. The Bear had 2 contrarotating
props per engine. (Pics at
http://www.pinetreeline.org/misc/other/misc8j.jpg,
http://www.pinetreeline.org/misc/other/misc8as.jpg)

Carl

[Jay Beckman]

"Dan Thomas" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
> airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
> engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
> fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
> the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
> the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
> carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
> intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
> tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
> runups.
> One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
> hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
> home. That has to be pretty bad.
> Anyone here remember what it was?
>
> Dan

IIRC, the Ryan "Fireball" was a prop up front and a jet out the rear...

But, I think it was built before the 60's/70's time frame...

FWIW...

[Tex Houston]

"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
news:XZz5b.26099$S_.643@fed1read01...
> Waaaaay before the 60's/70's...
>
> Fireball Link:
>
> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/projects/Fireball.html
>
>

The article on the XF-84H was in "Air and Space Magazine", pp 56-61 of the
July 2003 issue.

Tex

[Montblack]

("Scott Lowrey" wrote)
<snip>
> Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> show).

September 20-21, 2003

http://www.duluthairshow.com/index2.htm

Duluth is only 150 mile straight up the freeway from MSP (Mpls/St. Paul)

We want to get up there for the Air Show.

--
Montblack

[Dan Thomas]

"Tex Houston" > wrote in message >...
> "Dan Thomas" > wrote in message
> > Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
> > airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
> > engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
> > fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
> > the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
> > the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
> > carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
> > intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
> > tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
> > runups.
> > One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
> > hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
> > home. That has to be pretty bad.
> > Anyone here remember what it was?
> >
> > Dan
>
> You may have read about it in "Air and Space Magazine", if I remember
> correctly. Not exactly sure if this is the aircraft in question but would
> almost bet money on it. According to a senior curator I met at the Air
> Force Museum when it was tested there it was painful to be anywhere near.
>
> http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f84sp.htm
>
> Tex


That's the one. Thanks!

Dan

[Peter Twydell]

In article >, Tex Houston
> writes
>
>"Dan Thomas" > wrote in message
>> Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
>> airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
>> engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
>> fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
>> the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
>> the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
>> carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
>> intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
>> tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
>> runups.
>> One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
>> hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
>> home. That has to be pretty bad.
>> Anyone here remember what it was?
>>
>> Dan
>
>You may have read about it in "Air and Space Magazine", if I remember
>correctly. Not exactly sure if this is the aircraft in question but would
>almost bet money on it. According to a senior curator I met at the Air
>Force Museum when it was tested there it was painful to be anywhere near.
>
>http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f84sp.htm
>
>Tex
>
>
>
>
ISTR it was nicknamed "Thunderscreech" because of its awful noise, and
caused pain and severe nausea to ground personnel in the vicinity when
the prop was turning.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

[Chad Irby]

In article >,
Peter Twydell > wrote:

> In article >, Tex Houston
> > writes
> >
> >You may have read about it in "Air and Space Magazine", if I remember
> >correctly. Not exactly sure if this is the aircraft in question but would
> >almost bet money on it. According to a senior curator I met at the Air
> >Force Museum when it was tested there it was painful to be anywhere near.
> >
> >http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f84sp.htm
>
> ISTR it was nicknamed "Thunderscreech" because of its awful noise, and
> caused pain and severe nausea to ground personnel in the vicinity when
> the prop was turning.

I'd put an F-106 at takeoff up against almost anything. It was pretty
loud in general, but there were some godawful high harmonics in there
that made you feel like someone was ripping giant sheets of canvas *in*
your chest. When I worked F-4s, we had an ANG F-106 alert unit sitting
at the end of one runway, and when they took off, we'd go into the EOR
shack and hide for extra protection - after standing 100 feet away from
multiple F-4 launches on full afterburner all day...

--


Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

[Howard Berkowitz]

In article >,
(Dan Thomas) wrote:

> Billy Beck <> wrote in message
> >...

> Read recently (in an article I cannot now find) about an
> airplane designed and built in the '60s or '70s that had a turbojet
> engine in the tail and a huge turboprop in the nose. Supposed to be a
> fighter or fighter-bomber. Only two were built, and after one flight
> the test pilots didn't want to fly them any more. They were LOUD in
> the cockpit or anywhere else. It hurt bad. Very few test flights were
> carried out. I imagine they were designed to defeat the enemy through
> intimidation alone. Apparently most of the noise came from the prop
> tips, which were running supersonic or transonic, even in static
> runups.
> One of the pilots lived ten miles from the airbase, and he could
> hear the techs running it up, on the ground, all the way from his
> home. That has to be pretty bad.
> Anyone here remember what it was?
>


"Pushme-pullyou" comes to mind. :-)

[Walt BJ]

If you do a search for turboprop noise in the NASA archives you will
find the info - the surprising thing to me was that the noise levels
were about equal clear out to the sixth harmonic. Yes, the XF84H was
loud. But the Saturn 5 was mucho louder, but you couldn't get closer
than about 8,000 yards. OTH, standing about 3 feet to one side from
the nozzle of a J79-17 at max power is verrry interesting.
Walt BJ

[mah]

Walt BJ wrote:
>
> If you do a search for turboprop noise in the NASA archives you will
> find the info - the surprising thing to me was that the noise levels
> were about equal clear out to the sixth harmonic. Yes, the XF84H was
> loud. But the Saturn 5 was mucho louder, but you couldn't get closer
> than about 8,000 yards. OTH, standing about 3 feet to one side from
> the nozzle of a J79-17 at max power is verrry interesting.
> Walt BJ

I'll second that motion.

While not a J79, the engine on the F-16 is quite impressive up close.
Did a job shadow with an F-16 crew chief and did final checks with him.
One involved lying under the aircraft and checking something just
forward of the afterburned turkey feathers. The noise was punishing.

MAH

[Frederick Wilson]

You want loud? Or annoying?

UH-1H doing a nice slow deceleration at low tq settings will produce a
popping sound that is easily heard for more than a mile. And it last a long
time.

I was flying a CH-47D at 165 knots and the folks on the airfield said they
heard us coming for at least five minutes before they saw us. Man she was a
good ole bird.

Don't you all just love the sounds of freedom.

Fred


"Scott Lowrey" > wrote in message
om...
> I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
>
> Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
>
> She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> _that_ sounds like.
>
> -Scott

[gatt]

"Richard Brooks" > wrote in message
news:bjcb7p$t17

> B-47 taking off with RATO on!

Loud, yes, but WORTH IT! :>

Harriers taking off from a short field a quarter of a mile from your squad
bay.

I live under the final for PDX. Every morning the F-15s come over (or roar
out overhead.) I'm exactly under the point where they lower their landing
gear, which means I'm exactly downrange when they throttle up to compensate.
Rattles my windows every freakin' morning. I'd take it as a free airshow
("the sound of freedom") but it sets the neighbor's terrier off for the next
half an hour or so.

I think B-1s are the loudest things I've ever heard personally.

-c

[Scott Lowrey]

"Montblack" wrote:
>
> September 20-21, 2003
>
> http://www.duluthairshow.com/index2.htm
>
> Duluth is only 150 mile straight up the freeway from MSP (Mpls/St. Paul)
>

Already on the calendar. I'll be there!

[Corrie]

Scott, I'm the same distance off the approach end :-) Saw the same
airplane, I think. I took it for an F-15. Seen several T-37s
overhead lately, too, plus a pair of T-38s a week or two ago. A year
or two back when the BUFF came to town it came in right over the
house. We were outside; my wife looked up and said, "I'm sure glad
that's on OUR side!"

Saw a Vulcan at an airshow some years back - it was making its
farewell tour before being retired. I can understand why the Falkland
sheep were scared out of their coats! Like a flock of banshees.

My vote for best loud airplane sound, though, would have to go to the
B-36. Rent the Jimmy Stewart classic, "Strategic Air Command" and
turn up the surround-sound.... Folks who heard them fly over the
Great Plains say that you would hear that drone for hours as that
six-ply contrail slowly crossed from horizon to horizon.

The sound of freedom indeed!

Corrie

(Scott Lowrey) wrote in message >...
> I reside about 6 miles off the departure end of MSP runway 12, so I'm
> used to hearing a lot of jet traffic. I've only lived here for 6
> months but I quickly adjusted to the noise. It's acutally not that
> bad, excepting the venerable DC-9.
>
> Today, though, what looked like an F-18 flew over. Wow. I haven't
> seen too many fighters in my life (still have yet to see a "real" air
> show). That thing peeled off to the southeast with a thunder that
> even the DC-9 in full song can't match.
>
> She was probably climbing through 3 or 4 thousand when I looked up.
> Are afterburners used during departure? If not, I can't imagine what
> _that_ sounds like.
>
> -Scott

[Bill Kapaun]

In article >,
(Corrie) wrote:

>My vote for best loud airplane sound, though, would have to go to the
>B-36. Rent the Jimmy Stewart classic, "Strategic Air Command" and
>turn up the surround-sound.... Folks who heard them fly over the
>Great Plains say that you would hear that drone for hours as that
>six-ply contrail slowly crossed from horizon to horizon

I lived about 30 miles from Fairchild AFB and remember them "visiting"
while flying their missions, nearly blotting out the sky.
Those "thumping" props almost made your innards rub together.

[mike regish]

A bunch, And they're probably the most expensive you'll find. I go way out
of my way to avoid them.

mike regish

"Chris Hoffmann" > wrote in message
...
> Signature? Good grief....how many FBO's do they run? That's the FBO at
> Mitchell Field in Milwaukee, too.
>
>
> --
> Chris Hoffmann
> Student Pilot @ UES
> <30 hours
>
>

[mike regish]

I like the F14 with the water skier.

mike regish

"Scott Lowrey" > wrote in message
.net...
> "Neal" wrote in message ...
> > An F-15 can get pretty awesomely loud too, looks vaguely similar to an
> > F-18, to the layperson, in that it also has twin vertical
> > stabilizors/rudders but they're straight up instead of angled
> > outwards. F-15's wing is much larger, and somewhat delta-shaped too.
> >
> > Good pics for comparison at:
> > http://www.rijskamp.com/KLu/photos/photo_50.html
> >
>
> That's an excellent shot, thanks. From my viewing angle and distance, I
> really
> didn't get a good enough look. All I caught were the twin verticals.
Looks
> like the key is the wing shape (and angle of verticals). Unfortunately
the
> roll
> in my direction put the wings level with me, so couldn't see them.
>
>

[Chad Irby]

(Bill Kapaun) wrote:

> In article >,
> (Corrie) wrote:
>
> >My vote for best loud airplane sound, though, would have to go to the
> >B-36. Rent the Jimmy Stewart classic, "Strategic Air Command" and
> >turn up the surround-sound.... Folks who heard them fly over the
> >Great Plains say that you would hear that drone for hours as that
> >six-ply contrail slowly crossed from horizon to horizon
>
> I lived about 30 miles from Fairchild AFB and remember them "visiting"
> while flying their missions, nearly blotting out the sky.
> Those "thumping" props almost made your innards rub together.

A low-level B-52 pass at about 400 knots will certainly get your
attention. It's interesting to look up and see one of those suckers
close enough over your head to notice details. At night. On a
blacked-out flightline...

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