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ArtKramr
September 3rd 03, 06:52 AM
>ubject: Re: More long-range Spitfires and daylight Bomber Command raids,
>From: Juvat
>Date: 9/2/03 10:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Guy posted:
>
>>>You, fighters and everyone else flew missions that involved a certain
>number
>>>of sorties, effective and ineffective,
>
>to which Art Kramer posted:
>
>>Missions that involved sorties???? What does that mean?. I flew all
>missions.
>>No sorties
>
>Art a single takeoff on a combat "mission" is a sortie. All the planes
>in your formation constitute "x" number of sorties on that ONE
>mission.
>
>>We flew 56 Marauders on every mission. Max effort every time.
>
>So....that makes 56 sorties from your outfit on any given mission.
>However then you add in all the sorties from other units going on the
>SAME mission.
>
>Juvat


MY GOD ! THE AAC OWES ME 250 MORE AIR MEDALS !!!!



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr
September 3rd 03, 07:11 AM
>Subject: Re: More long-range Spitfires and daylight Bomber Command raids,
>From: Juvat
>Date: 9/2/03 11:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Art replied:
>
>>MY GOD ! THE AAC OWES ME 250 MORE AIR MEDALS !!!!
>
>Uhhh Art...5 missions [combat sorties] per AM comes out to what? A
>mere 1250 combat sorties.
>
>You were a busy boy.
>
>Juvat

I flew a mere 50 missions. But I guess we can call that busy. Sort of more or
less. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr
September 4th 03, 10:12 PM
>Subject: Re: More long-range Spitfires and daylight Bomber Command raids,
>From: Guy Alcala

>Well, I've established from ACM Kramer (before the pointless abuse
>> alienated me entirely) that he never flew with more than 4,000lb
>> bombload, despite the fact the

Range baby range. Radius of action. Getting there and getting back. Eight 500
pounders on most missions flown in auto lean well throttled back at 180
IAS..The exceptions were when we carried incendiaries or the one Nepalm
mission. Glad when that one was over.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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