Experimental Russian jet

[Legal Tender]

When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4 Yak
sites that came up.

The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
tail like it.
Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
about it..
Any Help would be welcomed...
Frank

[Jordan]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:59:28 -0700, "Legal Tender"
> wrote:

>When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
>searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
>I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4 Yak
>sites that came up.
>
>The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
>The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
>It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
>tail like it.
>Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
>I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
>about it..
>Any Help would be welcomed...
>Frank
>
>

Have you checked out the MiG series?

[Don Harstad]

"Legal Tender" > wrote in message
...
> When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4
Yak
> sites that came up.
>
> The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
> The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> tail like it.
> Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
> about it..
> Any Help would be welcomed...
> Frank
>
I think that would have been the old Aroura kit, in bright green plastic.
If so, the plane depicted was a figment of somebody's imaginatiaon. I had
the same kit, and it really did have a Russian "look" about it! Never
existed, thouugh, in real life.

Don H.

[Ozone]

"Legal Tender" > wrote in message
...
> When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4
Yak
> sites that came up.
>
> The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
> The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> tail like it.
> Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
> about it..
> Any Help would be welcomed...
> Frank
>
>

May want to try this site: http://www.majormattmason.net/aurora/ it has
catalogs for several years.

Doug

[Allen Epps]

In article <Fh3eb.4433$hp5.1263@fed1read04>, Ozone
> wrote:

> "Legal Tender" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> > searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> > I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4
> Yak
> > sites that came up.
> >
> > The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
> > The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> > It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> > tail like it.
> > Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> > I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
> > about it..
> > Any Help would be welcomed...
> > Frank
> >
> >
>
> May want to try this site: http://www.majormattmason.net/aurora/ it has
> catalogs for several years.
>
> Doug


1968 catalog page 12 maybe? Boy, those kits bring back some memories!
Pugs

[steve gallacci]

Legal Tender wrote:
>
> When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4 Yak
> sites that came up.
>
> The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
> The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> tail like it.
> Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
> about it..
> Any Help would be welcomed...
> Frank

It was a vague sort of mishmash that looked a little like a Lagg with
some Ta183 and cold war creativity tossed in.

[Frank May]

Both Aurora & Lindberg made fictitious Soviet '50s era jets. They were
called a "MiG-19" & another version was maybe called a Yak- something,
maybe 19. Both were similar in layout, & shared design features of the
Ta-183. They show up on eBay from time to time.

[DHarper]

From your description it sounds like a Yak-30 or maybe the Yak-50

[Legal Tender]

Wow you guys are good. Yep thats the jet. Mine was Bright Green and big red
stars on it.
The model on page 12 of the 68 catalog shows the right jet, but in silver
with the name Mig. I'm still pretty sure that back in the 50's when it was
green it was listed as a Yak
So that jet never existed. Again thanks guys..
I was going nuts trying to figure out why I could never find anything on
it...
Frank


"steve gallacci" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Legal Tender wrote:
> >
> > When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> > searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> > I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4
Yak
> > sites that came up.
> >
> > The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping
tail.
> > The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> > It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> > tail like it.
> > Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> > I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything
out
> > about it..
> > Any Help would be welcomed...
> > Frank
>
> It was a vague sort of mishmash that looked a little like a Lagg with
> some Ta183 and cold war creativity tossed in.

[Tex Houston]

"Legal Tender" > wrote in message
...
> Wow you guys are good. Yep thats the jet. Mine was Bright Green and big
red
> stars on it.
> The model on page 12 of the 68 catalog shows the right jet, but in silver
> with the name Mig. I'm still pretty sure that back in the 50's when it was
> green it was listed as a Yak
> So that jet never existed. Again thanks guys..
> I was going nuts trying to figure out why I could never find anything on
> it...
> Frank

When you have model questions another resource is rec.models.scale . They
are also very good.

Tex

[Legal Tender]

Your right it was called a Yak-19. I never saw it in the Mig form..
Thanks again...
Frank

"Frank May" > wrote in message
...
> Both Aurora & Lindberg made fictitious Soviet '50s era jets. They were
> called a "MiG-19" & another version was maybe called a Yak- something,
> maybe 19. Both were similar in layout, & shared design features of the
> Ta-183. They show up on eBay from time to time.
>

[Legal Tender]

Will do, but in this case the question wasn't about a model per sa. It was
about a A/C I was trying to get info on. I just didn't realize it was a non
existent jet...
Frank


"Tex Houston" > wrote in message
...
> When you have model questions another resource is rec.models.scale . They
> are also very good.
>
> Tex
>

>
> "Legal Tender" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wow you guys are good. Yep thats the jet. Mine was Bright Green and big
> red
> > stars on it.
> > The model on page 12 of the 68 catalog shows the right jet, but in
silver
> > with the name Mig. I'm still pretty sure that back in the 50's when it
was
> > green it was listed as a Yak
> > So that jet never existed. Again thanks guys..
> > I was going nuts trying to figure out why I could never find anything on
> > it...
> > Frank
>
>
>

[robert arndt]

"DHarper" > wrote in message >...
> From your description it sounds like a Yak-30 or maybe the Yak-50

At first, I thought of that terrible MiG I.320... except for the
fictional Ta 183 inspired tail you described.

Rob

[Alan Minyard]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:59:28 -0700, "Legal Tender"
> wrote:

>When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
>searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
>I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4 Yak
>sites that came up.
>
>The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping tail.
>The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
>It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
>tail like it.
>Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
>I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything out
>about it..
>Any Help would be welcomed...
>Frank
>
>
It sounds like it might be a Yak-17 or Yak-23. They do not, however,
have the nose radome of an F-86D,

Al Minyard

[WaltBJ]

I believe Aurora was working froma perliminary description of a MiG9.
Back then the first hints came from either a May Day flyby or pictures
(long range and out of focus) nabbed by military attaches. Oddity -
estimates of dimensions came from measuring the pilot's helmet in the
pictures and working from there.
Walt BJ

anyone remember the stealth fighter kit of the 1980s? this was before
the f-117 was made public, so the kit looked like a sr-71 blackbird.

flying toys [r/c planes, model rockets] often have shapes that are
distortions of the original, for areodynamic reasons.

[Bill Silvey]

> wrote in message

> anyone remember the stealth fighter kit of the 1980s? this was before
> the f-117 was made public, so the kit looked like a sr-71 blackbird.

Yup! My stupid poly-sci textbook (college level!) was written by pinkos, so
there was a nice article about how inept the military is because they
couldn't keep top-secret designs out of the hands of toy-makers (referencing
the Testors "teardrop" shaped "F-19 Stealth Fighter", which Microprose
promptly copied for it's computer game).



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[Anonymous]

Bill Silvey wrote in message ...
>Yup! My stupid poly-sci textbook (college level!) was written by pinkos, so
>there was a nice article about how inept the military is because they
>couldn't keep top-secret designs out of the hands of toy-makers (referencing
>the Testors "teardrop" shaped "F-19 Stealth Fighter", which Microprose
>promptly copied for it's computer game).

I have a book at home about stealth technology - apparently the F-19 design
was a complete fake; it wasn't a stealthy design, and was created as a ruse
to fool the press.

It had a fairly large RCS, and would have used afterburning engines.

But F-19 Stealth Fighter was still a cool game :o)

Cheers
Graeme

[Dingo]

> > wrote:
>
> >When I was a kid (appox 1957) I got a model of a Russian Jet. I ran many
> >searches on the net but can't find anything on it.
> >I don't remember the designation, but I think it was a Yak. Yes I ran 4
Yak
> >sites that came up.
> >
> >The Jet had a nose like the F-86D, swept wings with a high sweeping
tail.
> >The tail was very long compared to the rest of the A/C
> >It swept back and up in a nice curve. I've never seen another A/C with a
> >tail like it.
> >Single engine, single seater with a couple of cannon, I think were 37MM.
> >I think it might have been Experimental because I can't find anything
out
> >about it..
> >Any Help would be welcomed...
> >Frank

Hmmmm... this sounds vaguely familiar to a model kit I had in my younger
days. I think it may have been a Revell kit and supposedly a MIG 19 ~ no
way ! The closest I ever came to matching it to a real aircraft was one of
the Lavochin high wing designs but then IIRC, I don't think it was *that*
close; the model was of a mid-wing aircraft.
HTH
~=~
John Ding (UK)