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Navin R. Johnson
October 9th 03, 07:27 AM
I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
the fighter pilots.
Dudley Henriques
October 9th 03, 07:47 AM
"Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
...
> I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
> that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
> the fighter pilots.
Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure no
Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had enough to
drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion just MIGHT have
come up once in a while!!! :-)))
Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good ones
at that!!
Dudley Henriques
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Guy Alcala
October 9th 03, 08:40 AM
Dudley Henriques wrote:
> "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
> > that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
> > the fighter pilots.
>
> Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure no
> Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had enough to
> drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion just MIGHT have
> come up once in a while!!! :-)))
> Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
> somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good ones
> at that!!
Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being trolled.
After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet the name of Steve
Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
Guy
Cub Driver
October 9th 03, 11:38 AM
Depending on how you define "fighter pilot," there were at least three
Marines in the American Volunteer Group Flying Tigers.
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JDupre5762
October 9th 03, 12:11 PM
>I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
>that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
>the fighter pilots.
>
>
A very good movie. The Marines have had fighter pilots probably since WW1 and
certainly since the 1920's. Marine fighter pilots were very effective in WW2.
Look up names like, Foss, Boyington, Bauer, Hanson, Carl and Smith.
John Dupre'
ddd
October 9th 03, 02:42 PM
Marines don't have fighter pilots. They have mud movers.
Navin R. Johnson wrote:
> I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
> that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
> the fighter pilots.
>
>
Dudley Henriques
October 9th 03, 03:52 PM
"Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
...
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> > "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find
out
> > > that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy
had
> > > the fighter pilots.
> >
> > Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure no
> > Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had
enough to
> > drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion just MIGHT
have
> > come up once in a while!!! :-)))
> > Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
> > somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> > The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good
ones
> > at that!!
>
> Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
trolled.
> After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet the name of
Steve
> Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
>
> Guy
Saw that movie; actually saw both of them. I really enjoy Steve Martin's
work. He's a "very..... funny guy" :-)
Apparently he has other talents too. Just last week I was astounded to find
out that he's one of the country's premier 5 string banjo players. I heard
him play on the radio without knowing who was playing, and I swear I thought
it was Earl Scruggs. Man, THAT was Bluegrass!!! :-)
Dudley
Navin R. Johnson
October 9th 03, 05:30 PM
"Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
...
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> > "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find
out
> > > that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy
had
> > > the fighter pilots.
> >
> > Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure no
> > Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had
enough to
> > drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion just MIGHT
have
> > come up once in a while!!! :-)))
> > Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
> > somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> > The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good
ones
> > at that!!
>
> Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
trolled.
> After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet the name of
Steve
> Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
>
> Guy
>
>
>
i wasnt trying to be a smartass. i honestly didnt know.
Navin R. Johnson
October 9th 03, 05:32 PM
"JDupre5762" > wrote in message
...
> >I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
> >that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
> >the fighter pilots.
> >
> >
>
> A very good movie. The Marines have had fighter pilots probably since WW1
and
> certainly since the 1920's. Marine fighter pilots were very effective in
WW2.
> Look up names like, Foss, Boyington, Bauer, Hanson, Carl and Smith.
>
> John Dupre'
i had forgot about the Black Sheep Squadron.
Marc Reeve
October 9th 03, 07:15 PM
Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> "Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > > "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to
> > > > find out that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only
> > > > USAF and Navy had the fighter pilots.
> > >
> > > Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure
> > > no Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had
> > > enough to drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion
> > > just MIGHT have come up once in a while!!! :-)))
> > > Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
> > > somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> > > The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good
> > > ones at that!!
> >
> > Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
> > trolled. After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet
> > the name of Steve Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
> >
>
> Saw that movie; actually saw both of them. I really enjoy Steve Martin's
> work. He's a "very..... funny guy" :-) Apparently he has other talents
> too. Just last week I was astounded to find out that he's one of the
> country's premier 5 string banjo players. I heard him play on the radio
> without knowing who was playing, and I swear I thought it was Earl
> Scruggs. Man, THAT was Bluegrass!!! :-)
Yeah, he's an amazing banjo player for someone who describes it as a
"hobby". I dare say he could go pro without much difficulty.
-Marc
--
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Guy Alcala
October 9th 03, 07:28 PM
"Navin R. Johnson" wrote:
> "Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
<snip>
> > Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
> trolled.
> > After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet the name of
> Steve
> > Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >
> >
> i wasnt trying to be a smartass. i honestly didnt know.
Fair enough, and my apology. Still, that handle does invite suspicion. Or
perhaps it's just that I have grown overly cautious, having dealt with far too
many trolls here in the past.
Guy
Dudley Henriques
October 9th 03, 07:39 PM
"Marc Reeve" > wrote in message
. ..
> Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> > "Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > > > "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to
> > > > > find out that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only
> > > > > USAF and Navy had the fighter pilots.
> > > >
> > > > Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure
> > > > no Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we
had
> > > > enough to drink, even with some of them present :-).......this
opinion
> > > > just MIGHT have come up once in a while!!! :-)))
>
> > > > Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in
my
> > > > somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> > > > The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn
good
> > > > ones at that!!
> > >
> > > Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
> > > trolled. After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de
Usenet
> > > the name of Steve Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
> > >
> >
> > Saw that movie; actually saw both of them. I really enjoy Steve Martin's
> > work. He's a "very..... funny guy" :-) Apparently he has other talents
> > too. Just last week I was astounded to find out that he's one of the
> > country's premier 5 string banjo players. I heard him play on the radio
> > without knowing who was playing, and I swear I thought it was Earl
> > Scruggs. Man, THAT was Bluegrass!!! :-)
>
> Yeah, he's an amazing banjo player for someone who describes it as a
> "hobby". I dare say he could go pro without much difficulty.
>
> -Marc
I think when I heard him, he was actually jamming with Scruggs.
DH
Alan Minyard
October 9th 03, 08:14 PM
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 06:27:44 GMT, "Navin R. Johnson"
> wrote:
>I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to find out
>that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only USAF and Navy had
>the fighter pilots.
>
Wow, are you going to catch it over this one :-) (assuming that this
is not a troll).
The USMC has had "fighter pilots" since the 1930's and some of the
very best "fighter pilots" at that. They currently fly the F/A-18 and
the AV-8.
Al Minyard
Guy Alcala
October 10th 03, 04:23 AM
Marc Reeve wrote:
> Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> > "Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> > > > "Navin R. Johnson" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I rented The Great Santini the other night and was surprised to
> > > > > find out that the Marines had fighter pilots. I thought the only
> > > > > USAF and Navy had the fighter pilots.
> > > >
> > > > Well........., on a good night at the O Club at Pax, if we were sure
> > > > no Marines or Air Force types were present at the bar, (and if we had
> > > > enough to drink, even with some of them present :-).......this opinion
> > > > just MIGHT have come up once in a while!!! :-)))
>
> > > > Seriously through, some of the finest fighter pilots I've known in my
> > > > somewhat dubious career were Air Force and Marine drivers.
> > > > The Marines most certainly do have fighter pilots, and some damn good
> > > > ones at that!!
> > >
> > > Dudley, I think there's a more than decent chance that you've being
> > > trolled. After all, the original poster has chosen as his Nom de Usenet
> > > the name of Steve Martin's clueless title character in "The Jerk".
> > >
> >
> > Saw that movie; actually saw both of them. I really enjoy Steve Martin's
> > work. He's a "very..... funny guy" :-) Apparently he has other talents
> > too. Just last week I was astounded to find out that he's one of the
> > country's premier 5 string banjo players. I heard him play on the radio
> > without knowing who was playing, and I swear I thought it was Earl
> > Scruggs. Man, THAT was Bluegrass!!! :-)
>
> Yeah, he's an amazing banjo player for someone who describes it as a
> "hobby". I dare say he could go pro without much difficulty.
I once heard him being interviewed (maybe by Terry Gross on "Fresh Air"). He
said that the reason he decided not to be a pro with the banjo but decided on a
career change into comedy, was that he noticed that one thing you never heard
over the P.A. system in a club was "Will the banjo player please go out to the
parking lot? You've left the lights on in your Mercedes" ;-)
Guy
vincent p. norris
October 10th 03, 04:30 AM
>Marines don't have fighter pilots. They have mud movers.
If my meory isn't faulty, a marine in a mud-moving machine, aka F4U,
shot down a Mig in Korea.
vince norris
Cub Driver
October 10th 03, 10:45 AM
>i had forgot about the Black Sheep Squadron
And I'd forgotten about Boyington!
Make that "at least four" Marine fighter pilots in the AVG Flying
Tigers.
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Guy Alcala
October 11th 03, 09:48 PM
"vincent p. norris" wrote:
> >Marines don't have fighter pilots. They have mud movers.
>
> If my meory isn't faulty, a marine in a mud-moving machine, aka F4U,
> shot down a Mig in Korea.
And aside from John Bolt, who scored 6 kills flying F-86s in Korea to
add to his six while in the Black Sheep, there was that other marine
flying F-86s as an exchange pilot with the 51st FIW, who's credited with
three MiG kills in 27 missions. Some guy named John H. Glenn, whose
subsequent career was pretty run of the mill :^).
Guy
redc1c4
October 12th 03, 02:10 AM
ddd wrote:
>
> Marines don't have fighter pilots. They have mud movers.
those are the 0331's............ %-)
redc1c4,
the aviation types include fighter pilots
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Bill Silvey
October 12th 03, 02:39 AM
"Guy Alcala" > wrote in message
> "vincent p. norris" wrote:
>
>>> Marines don't have fighter pilots. They have mud movers.
>>
>> If my meory isn't faulty, a marine in a mud-moving machine, aka F4U,
>> shot down a Mig in Korea.
>
> And aside from John Bolt, who scored 6 kills flying F-86s in Korea to
> add to his six while in the Black Sheep, there was that other marine
> flying F-86s as an exchange pilot with the 51st FIW, who's credited
> with three MiG kills in 27 missions. Some guy named John H. Glenn,
> whose subsequent career was pretty run of the mill :^).
>
> Guy
Yeah, that Glenn guy ended up doing some test pilot work for some agency
based in Florida, didn't he? NOAA or NCA or something like that. Can't
really recall.
;-)
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