9/11 Pentagon Wreckage

[David Lednicer]

Who was the fool claiming that there was no evidence that a plane
(namely a 757-200) crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001?
Take a look at these pictures:
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_135.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_136.jpg

For the record, turbine (or compressor) disks from a RB.211-535E4 can be
seen in the left side of these pictures.

Yes, I know that some weanie is going to claim that the disks seen in
these photos were "planted" by the folks who also fly black helicopters...

[Ron]

>Who was the fool claiming that there was no evidence that a plane
>(namely a 757-200) crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001?
>Take a look at these pictures:
>http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_135.jpg
>http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_136.jpg
>
>For the record, turbine (or compressor) disks from a RB.211-535E4 can be
>seen in the left side of these pictures.
>
>Yes, I know that some weanie is going to claim that the disks seen in
>these photos were "planted" by the folks who also fly black helicopters

No, actually these netloons are claiming it could be from a cruise missile...

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001522.html
Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

[Keith Willshaw]

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> >Who was the fool claiming that there was no evidence that a plane
> >(namely a 757-200) crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001?
> >Take a look at these pictures:
> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_135.jpg
> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_136.jpg
> >
> >For the record, turbine (or compressor) disks from a RB.211-535E4 can be
> >seen in the left side of these pictures.
> >
> >Yes, I know that some weanie is going to claim that the disks seen in
> >these photos were "planted" by the folks who also fly black helicopters
>
> No, actually these netloons are claiming it could be from a cruise
missile...
>
> http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001522.html
>

Looking at the size of those rotor disks it most be the mother of
all cruise missiles.

Keith

[BUFDRVR]

>Looking at the size of those rotor disks it most be the mother of
>all cruise missiles.
>

Yeah, probably half the size of a 757 ;)


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

[David Bromage]

Ron wrote:
> No, actually these netloons are claiming it could be from a cruise
missile...

Despite witnesses in a nearby hotel who can apparently tell the
difference between a missile and a 757.

Cheers
David

[Steve Hix]

In article >,
(Ron) wrote:

> >Who was the fool claiming that there was no evidence that a plane
> >(namely a 757-200) crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001?
> >Take a look at these pictures:
> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_135.jpg
> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_136.jpg
> >
> >For the record, turbine (or compressor) disks from a RB.211-535E4 can be
> >seen in the left side of these pictures.
> >
> >Yes, I know that some weanie is going to claim that the disks seen in
> >these photos were "planted" by the folks who also fly black helicopters
>
> No, actually these netloons are claiming it could be from a cruise missile...

*Really* big cruise missile...

[[email protected]]

Steve Hix > wrote:

>In article >,
> (Ron) wrote:
>
>> >Who was the fool claiming that there was no evidence that a plane
>> >(namely a 757-200) crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001?
>> >Take a look at these pictures:
>> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_135.jpg
>> >http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/high/va_pentagon_0901_136.jpg
>> >
>> >For the record, turbine (or compressor) disks from a RB.211-535E4 can be
>> >seen in the left side of these pictures.
>> >
>> >Yes, I know that some weanie is going to claim that the disks seen in
>> >these photos were "planted" by the folks who also fly black helicopters
>>
>> No, actually these netloons are claiming it could be from a cruise missile...
>
>*Really* big cruise missile...

Well, speaking of size, doesn't it look pretty small for an
RB-211?...I googled for info and found that the fan on a 211 is
6.5 feet in diameter. I realize that the fan is gonna be bigger
than the turbine/compressor discs but this one looks to be maybe
2.5 to 3 feet wide judging from the fireman's leg in the
foreground. Seems a bit small doesn't it?.
--

-Gord.

[Keith Willshaw]

"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Hix > wrote:
>

> Well, speaking of size, doesn't it look pretty small for an
> RB-211?...I googled for info and found that the fan on a 211 is
> 6.5 feet in diameter. I realize that the fan is gonna be bigger
> than the turbine/compressor discs but this one looks to be maybe
> 2.5 to 3 feet wide judging from the fireman's leg in the
> foreground. Seems a bit small doesn't it?.

My brother, whos a turbine engineer tells me the inner compression
disks of this engine are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter
and it looks like that section to him. The IP compression
stage is behind the main fan which which would have taken the
brunt of any impact.

Keith

[[email protected]]

"Keith Willshaw" > wrote:

>
>"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
>> Steve Hix > wrote:
>>
>
>> Well, speaking of size, doesn't it look pretty small for an
>> RB-211?...I googled for info and found that the fan on a 211 is
>> 6.5 feet in diameter. I realize that the fan is gonna be bigger
>> than the turbine/compressor discs but this one looks to be maybe
>> 2.5 to 3 feet wide judging from the fireman's leg in the
>> foreground. Seems a bit small doesn't it?.
>
>My brother, whos a turbine engineer tells me the inner compression
>disks of this engine are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter
>and it looks like that section to him. The IP compression
>stage is behind the main fan which which would have taken the
>brunt of any impact.
>
>Keith
>

Ok thanks Keith...I did notice in the info that I found that
there was a surprisingly large difference in diameter between the
fan and the other discs (just going by a sketch that I saw)
--

-Gord.

[B2431]

>From: (BUFDRVR)
>Date: 10/16/2003 4:31 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>Looking at the size of those rotor disks it most be the mother of
>>all cruise missiles.
>>
>
>Yeah, probably half the size of a 757 ;)
>
>
>BUFDRVR
>

Come one, guys, it's a new technology. The military looked at hollow point
bullets and how the expand on impact and developed a technology for doing that
with cruise missile engines. They also discovered a way for cruise missiles to
look like jet liners to ground observers.

Don't you guys understand the black helicopters are on our side? Do you really
believe we have learned nothing from the space aliens held at Area 51?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

[John Mullen]

"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Steve Hix > wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> Well, speaking of size, doesn't it look pretty small for an
> >> RB-211?...I googled for info and found that the fan on a 211 is
> >> 6.5 feet in diameter. I realize that the fan is gonna be bigger
> >> than the turbine/compressor discs but this one looks to be maybe
> >> 2.5 to 3 feet wide judging from the fireman's leg in the
> >> foreground. Seems a bit small doesn't it?.
> >
> >My brother, whos a turbine engineer tells me the inner compression
> >disks of this engine are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter
> >and it looks like that section to him. The IP compression
> >stage is behind the main fan which which would have taken the
> >brunt of any impact.
> >
> >Keith
> >
>
> Ok thanks Keith...I did notice in the info that I found that
> there was a surprisingly large difference in diameter between the
> fan and the other discs (just going by a sketch that I saw)

Sorry if I'm being dense here but isn't this the whole point of a modern
turbofan?

John

[Keith Willshaw]

"John Mullen" > wrote in message
...
> "Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
> >

> >
> > Ok thanks Keith...I did notice in the info that I found that
> > there was a surprisingly large difference in diameter between the
> > fan and the other discs (just going by a sketch that I saw)
>
> Sorry if I'm being dense here but isn't this the whole point of a modern
> turbofan?
>

Indeed, there's a nice picture at the URL below which shows
the sort of relationship between fan and core sizes on high
bypass engines.

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-65189/transport_aircraft/b747/boeing_747_series.htm

Keith

[Alan Minyard]

On 16 Oct 2003 21:31:53 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

>>Looking at the size of those rotor disks it most be the mother of
>>all cruise missiles.
>>
>
>Yeah, probably half the size of a 757 ;)
>
>
>BUFDRVR
>
>"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
>everyone on Bear Creek"

Yep, that's the one that powers the Buff to the release point to save
gas, the Buff doesn't even start its engines until then :-)

Oh God, eight air-starts :-(

Al Minyard

[Alan Minyard]

On 17 Oct 2003 19:11:53 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

>>From: (BUFDRVR)
>>Date: 10/16/2003 4:31 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>>Looking at the size of those rotor disks it most be the mother of
>>>all cruise missiles.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, probably half the size of a 757 ;)
>>
>>
>>BUFDRVR
>>
>
>Come one, guys, it's a new technology. The military looked at hollow point
>bullets and how the expand on impact and developed a technology for doing that
>with cruise missile engines. They also discovered a way for cruise missiles to
>look like jet liners to ground observers.
>
>Don't you guys understand the black helicopters are on our side? Do you really
>believe we have learned nothing from the space aliens held at Area 51?
>
>Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well, I've heard that they had a killer chile receipy :-)

Al Minyard

[[email protected]]

"John Mullen" > wrote:

>"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
...
>> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Gord Beaman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Steve Hix > wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Well, speaking of size, doesn't it look pretty small for an
>> >> RB-211?...I googled for info and found that the fan on a 211 is
>> >> 6.5 feet in diameter. I realize that the fan is gonna be bigger
>> >> than the turbine/compressor discs but this one looks to be maybe
>> >> 2.5 to 3 feet wide judging from the fireman's leg in the
>> >> foreground. Seems a bit small doesn't it?.
>> >
>> >My brother, whos a turbine engineer tells me the inner compression
>> >disks of this engine are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter
>> >and it looks like that section to him. The IP compression
>> >stage is behind the main fan which which would have taken the
>> >brunt of any impact.
>> >
>> >Keith
>> >
>>
>> Ok thanks Keith...I did notice in the info that I found that
>> there was a surprisingly large difference in diameter between the
>> fan and the other discs (just going by a sketch that I saw)
>
>Sorry if I'm being dense here but isn't this the whole point of a modern
>turbofan?
>
>John
>
Well, I don't know if 'the whole point' is a valid assessment but
yes, the fan is larger than the compressor discs on turbofan
engines. Just seemed to be out of proportion to me. The discs in
that photo seemed smaller than I expected to see from a 757
engine, that's all. But by Keith's answer it seems ok...
--

-Gord.

[phil hunt]

On 17 Oct 2003 19:11:53 GMT, B2431 > wrote:
>
>Don't you guys understand the black helicopters are on our side? Do you really
>believe we have learned nothing from the space aliens held at Area 51?

Actually the space aliens are just a cover story. Area 51 is
*really* the seat of the Illuminati Secret World Government.

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