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Bill Silvey
October 20th 03, 07:45 PM
"Hobo" > wrote in message
> What is the purpose of "chase planes" that are always involved with
> the testing of every new aircraft design?
Gathering visual data, taking promotional photos and videos, etc. Also
providing ground control with important information vis a viz aircraft
attitude, angle of attack, etc., should the pilot of the test aircraft
become incapacitated and unable to report his situation prior to a crash.
Or if the aircraft itself suffers some sort of degenerative structural
failure that the test pilot might not be immediately aware of, or a
fuel/hydraulic leak that a malfunctioning sensor isn't reading.
Essentially it's another set of eyes directly on the situation.
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WDA
October 20th 03, 08:11 PM
And in particular on early flights to view the position of the test plane
flight control surfaces: elevators rudder, ailerons, to know how far out of
trim the a/c design may be.
WDA
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"Bill Silvey" > wrote in message
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> "Hobo" > wrote in message
>
> > What is the purpose of "chase planes" that are always involved with
> > the testing of every new aircraft design?
>
> Gathering visual data, taking promotional photos and videos, etc. Also
> providing ground control with important information vis a viz aircraft
> attitude, angle of attack, etc., should the pilot of the test aircraft
> become incapacitated and unable to report his situation prior to a crash.
> Or if the aircraft itself suffers some sort of degenerative structural
> failure that the test pilot might not be immediately aware of, or a
> fuel/hydraulic leak that a malfunctioning sensor isn't reading.
>
> Essentially it's another set of eyes directly on the situation.
>
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>
Mary Shafer
October 20th 03, 08:47 PM
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:12:06 -0700, Hobo > wrote:
> What is the purpose of "chase planes" that are always involved with the
> testing of every new aircraft design?
There are two kinds of chase planes: safety and photo.
Safety chase is there for safety of flight--the chase pilot takes the
radio calls, watches for traffic, makes sure they stay inside the
restricted area, keeps an eye out for fluids leaks or parts falling
off, acts as a pacer aircraft to be sure the CADS is working about
right, looks for anomalies like flutter or buffet, and, if required,
acts as RESCAP.
Photo chase carries the photographer or videographer, obviously. The
photo chase pilot will also be a safety chase.
At Dryden, research aircraft have to have a safety chase at all times,
except in the landing pattern. On long flights, we could use the EDW
tanker crew as an interim safety chase while we swapped safety chases,
ensuring that the research vehicle was never flying all by itself, out
of everyone's view.
Mary
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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
Dan Contreras
October 20th 03, 10:42 PM
"Bill Silvey" > wrote in message >...
> "Hobo" > wrote in message
>
> > What is the purpose of "chase planes" that are always involved with
> > the testing of every new aircraft design?
>
> Gathering visual data, taking promotional photos and videos, etc. Also
> providing ground control with important information vis a viz aircraft
> attitude, angle of attack, etc., should the pilot of the test aircraft
> become incapacitated and unable to report his situation prior to a crash.
> Or if the aircraft itself suffers some sort of degenerative structural
> failure that the test pilot might not be immediately aware of, or a
> fuel/hydraulic leak that a malfunctioning sensor isn't reading.
>
> Essentially it's another set of eyes directly on the situation.
I'm sure that there are many other sources, but Yeager's autobiography
"Yeager" has some great information and tales on the duties of chase
pilots.
Gene Storey
October 20th 03, 11:26 PM
It allows the desk gomers to get their 4hrs a month to
keep their flight pay coming.
"Hobo" > wrote
>
> What is the purpose of "chase planes" that are always involved with the
> testing of every new aircraft design?
Cub Driver
October 21st 03, 10:25 AM
They do useful things like confirming that the test aircraft's wheels
are down (or up, as the case may be).
When I read the subject heading of your post, I thought you were
talking about WWI French fighters, which went by the name of chase.
Similiarly, U.S. fighters in the inter-war period were called pursuit.
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John Mullen
October 21st 03, 02:46 PM
"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> They do useful things like confirming that the test aircraft's wheels
> are down (or up, as the case may be).
>
> When I read the subject heading of your post, I thought you were
> talking about WWI French fighters, which went by the name of chase.
That would be 'avions de chasse'; lit 'hunting planes'. 'Jagtflugzeuge' in
German is similar.
> Similiarly, U.S. fighters in the inter-war period were called pursuit.
Wonder just when and why the term changed to 'fighter' planes? After all,
bombing and even recce planes 'fight' too, in a sense.
John
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