The Most Beautiful Thing Ever [Archive]

ArtKramr

October 25th 03, 11:06 PM

>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>From: "George Z. Bush"
>Date: 10/25/03 1:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Yann D wrote:
>> Spitfire ?
>> Fw190 ?
>> P51 ?
>> D520 ?
>> Or the Lotus Elite 14 ?
>>
>>> Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?

It was the B-26 Martin Marauder. At least one Marauder anyway.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Scott Ferrin

October 25th 03, 11:14 PM

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:39:43 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:

>Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
>
>Grantland

SR-71 (before the ECM bumps on the nose)

F-16XL (Single seater)

Vector M12 (SIlver)

2003 Ferrari Modena 360 Gold

Linda O'Neil (DAMN!)

George Ruch

October 26th 03, 12:30 AM

(Grantland) wrote:

>Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?

It's in the eye os the beholder.

Concorde
SR-71
Lockheed Constellation (any model, but esp. the L-1149)
F-15 (clean configuration)
F-22
But _not_ the Lawn Dart.

/------------------------------------------------------------\
| George Ruch |
| "Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?" |
\------------------------------------------------------------/

Richard Brooks

October 26th 03, 12:37 AM

Grantland wrote:
> Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
>
> Grantland
Anything that has those ballerina lines such as Concorde or Spitfire.

The rest is the John Merrick of beauty. After all, why do they call the
Boeing 747 the 'jumbo jet' ?

http://www.aboyd.com/merrick/merrick4.html

Richard.

redc1c4

October 26th 03, 01:48 AM

Grantland wrote:
>
> Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
>
> Grantland

a cold beer after a hot day.

redc1c4,
that, and a warm woman..... %-)
--
A Troop - 1st Squadron
404th Lemming Armored Cavalry

"Velox et Capillatus!"

Chad Irby

October 26th 03, 01:53 AM

In article >,
(Grantland) wrote:

> Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?

The B-70.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Gordon

October 26th 03, 03:19 AM

Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
Oscars.

Beat that.

:)
G

[email protected]

October 26th 03, 04:10 AM

(Gordon) wrote:

>Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
>Oscars.
>
>Beat that.
>
>:)
>G

Easy...all of the above plus me as I was at 29 in the driver's
seat.

-G

(oh...I was a killer I was...)

:)
--

-Gord.

Grantland

October 26th 03, 08:03 AM

George Ruch > wrote:

(Grantland) wrote:
>
>>Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
>
>It's in the eye os the beholder.
>
>Concorde

My vote.

>SR-71
>Lockheed Constellation (any model, but esp. the L-1149)
>F-15 (clean configuration)

F-15? With that nose? And Barabara Streisand, eh? pffff

>F-22

Nah. Never.

>But _not_ the Lawn Dart.

Familiarity breeds contempt. Take a good look. It's the Jet version
of spitfire.

Grantland
>
>/------------------------------------------------------------\
>| George Ruch |
>| "Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?" |
>\------------------------------------------------------------/

Dave Kearton

October 26th 03, 08:09 AM

"Grantland" > wrote in message
...
> George Ruch > wrote:
>
> (Grantland) wrote:
> >
> >>Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
> >
> >It's in the eye os the beholder.
> >
> >Concorde
>
> My vote.
>

"no matter how beautiful she is, there's always someone tired of putting up
with her ****"

Cheers

Dave Kearton

Richard Brooks

October 26th 03, 08:23 AM

Gordon wrote:
> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed
> for the Oscars.
>
> Beat that.
>
> :)
> G
Okay!

Nice shiny floor, better still a rug, Halle Berry in seamed black
stockings and silky black lingerie and on all fours!

Okay, to get it all back on topic there could be a desktop model of some
aircraft of some shape. Who cares ?

Richard.

Cub Driver

October 26th 03, 09:32 AM

Piper Cub.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Simon Robbins

October 26th 03, 09:45 AM

"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
...

> F-16XL (Single seater)

Nah.. My vote for best looking fighter has to be the Gripen. But the early
Phantoms had an aggressive beauty to them.

> 2003 Ferrari Modena 360 Gold

MV Agusta F4

> Linda O'Neil (DAMN!)

Who?

Si

Gunnar

October 26th 03, 09:56 AM

"Grantland" > skrev i melding
...
> Is it Concorde? Or is it the Lamborghini Countach? The F-16? F-23?
>
> Grantland

My short list (of planes ) would be:

Military:

Rafale
Gripen
F-15
F-16

Civilian:

Concorde
Airbus 330
That small build it your self airplane with small canard in front, propeller
in the back and a wide V-shaped wing.

Yann D

October 26th 03, 12:42 PM

Does the Piper Cub and all of its avatars compete for being the most
beautiful thing ever ?
It's a legend and it's wonderful to fly (and a bit nasty to land), but I
wouldn't say it's beautiful !

> Piper Cub.

ArtKramr

October 26th 03, 01:20 PM

>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>From: "Yann D"
>Date: 10/26/03 4:42 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Does the Piper Cub and all of its avatars compete for being the most
>beautiful thing ever ?
>It's a legend and it's wonderful to fly (and a bit nasty to land), but I
>wouldn't say it's beautiful !
>
>> Piper Cub.
>
>

Cubs were beautiful because they were there.I think every American airbase had
one or more. They were used as "puddlejumpers" to run errands. When you had to
run down to a parts depot to pick up some small parts, you took the Cub. When
a couple of guys had a three day pass to Paris, you didn't take a B-26, you
hopped in the Cub. Unfortunately some hot shot fighter jocks borrowed one of
our Cubs one day and eneed up crashing into the Alps while trying to run the
tight passes through the Alpine gourges. Anybody can fly a cub except a
fighter pilot who thinks he is a lot better than he really is.I think for many
of us who flew in the war, Cubs will always be a fond memory. And that is
beautuful in it's own sense. So we can say Cubs are beautiful. But the most
beautiful of all is a B-26 Marauder coming home from the Ruhr Valley, war
weary,with one engine pouring oil, smoking and barely turning that crash landed
so badly damaged it had to be junked. It's beautiful because it it brought its
entire crew home safely And that is true beauty,

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

George Shirley

October 26th 03, 01:59 PM

Trump! My first child, born 12/28/1961.

George

Gordon wrote:

> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
> Oscars.
>
> Beat that.
>
> :)
> G

Mike Marron

October 26th 03, 06:13 PM

>"Yann D" > wrote:
>>Cub Driver > wrote:

>>Piper Cub.

>Does the Piper Cub and all of its avatars compete for being the most
>beautiful thing ever ?
>It's a legend and it's wonderful to fly (and a bit nasty to land), but I
>wouldn't say it's beautiful !

Nothing beats a military jet fighter and it really doesn't matter
which type because they're all extremely beautiful machines.
But the problem is that only a small fraction of the human race
actually gets to fly a fighter. Even then, all good things must come
to an end and before they know it, the lucky *******s must
join the rest of us lowly humans stuck down here on terra firma.

Thus, when it comes to flying machines, I have to agree with Cub
Driver and in my view the "most beautiful thing ever" is whatever
I myself happens to be flying at the time!

Granted, a Cub (or in my case, a Trike) is nowhere near as impressive
looking as that neato warbird or the Concorde you see parked on the
ramp at some big fancy airshow. But Cubs, Trikes and other affordable,
fun little airplanes weren't designed for spectators and wannabes to
drool over while standing around with cameras in hand, wearing
sunglasses and lip balm to protect their noses from the hot sun.

Cubs, Trikes,T-Crafts, Luscombes, Lancairs etc. were designed for
active participants who wish to engage in some SERIOUS recreation.
Afterall, if you ain't flying it yourself, who gives a rat's ass about
that multi-million dollar F-16 screaming by overhead?

Now please excuse me...gotta' fly!

Autocollimator

October 26th 03, 07:08 PM

>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>From: George Shirley
>Date: 10/26/03 5:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Trump! My first child, born 12/28/1961.
>
>George
>
>Gordon wrote:
>
>> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
>> Oscars.
>>
>> Beat that.
>>
>> :)
>> G
>

That is easy to beat. A Stinson stretcher bearer plane taking a badly wounded
aircrew member who can't be treated at the small hospital on our airbase to a
large hospital in London for care. Just watch the Stinson lift off with one of
your aircrew in the stretcher, clear the pattern and head for London to save
the life of one of our own. That is true beauty.

Marc Reeve

October 26th 03, 07:14 PM

Simon Robbins > wrote:
> "Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
> ...

> > Linda O'Neil (DAMN!)
>
> Who?
>
< http://lindaoneil.com/portfolio/lon02.html>

Her.

-Marc
--
Marc Reeve
actual email address after removal of 4s & spaces is
c4m4r4a4m4a4n a4t c4r4u4z4i4o d4o4t c4o4m

Grantland

October 26th 03, 07:20 PM

(Autocollimator) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>>From: George Shirley
>>Date: 10/26/03 5:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Trump! My first child, born 12/28/1961.
>>
>>George
>>
>>Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
>>> Oscars.
>>>
>>> Beat that.
>>>
>>> :)
>>> G
>>
>
>
>That is easy to beat. A Stinson stretcher bearer plane taking a badly wounded
>aircrew member who can't be treated at the small hospital on our airbase to a
>large hospital in London for care. Just watch the Stinson lift off with one of
>your aircrew in the stretcher, clear the pattern and head for London to save
>the life of one of our own. That is true beauty.
>
Yea, really tugs at the heartstrings! Gosh.

Grantland

ArtKramr

October 27th 03, 02:06 AM

>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>From: (Autocollimator)
>Date: 10/26/03 11:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>>From: George Shirley
>>Date: 10/26/03 5:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Trump! My first child, born 12/28/1961.
>>
>>George
>>
>>Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed for the
>>> Oscars.
>>>
>>> Beat that.
>>>
>>> :)
>>> G
>>
>
>
>That is easy to beat. A Stinson stretcher bearer plane taking a badly
>wounded
>aircrew member who can't be treated at the small hospital on our airbase to a
>large hospital in London for care. Just watch the Stinson lift off with one
>of
>your aircrew in the stretcher, clear the pattern and head for London to save
>the life of one of our own. That is true beauty.
>

Sounds like you have some military WW II flying experience. Were you aircrew
or a paddlefoot? Where did you fly, what and when? Let us know.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Mike Marron

October 27th 03, 05:30 PM

(Grantland) wrote:
(Autocollimator) wrote:

>>That is easy to beat. A Stinson stretcher bearer plane taking a badly wounded
>>aircrew member who can't be treated at the small hospital on our airbase to a
>>large hospital in London for care. Just watch the Stinson lift off with one of
>>your aircrew in the stretcher, clear the pattern and head for London to save
>>the life of one of our own. That is true beauty.

>Yea, really tugs at the heartstrings! Gosh.

I recall landing a Cessna 206 once on a mud strip on the vast
Navajo Indian Reservation (bigger than the state of New Jersey!)
to pick up an almost-dead-beat-to-****-drunken Navajo Indian who
had been rolled the night before.

Throughout the 157 nautical mile flight from Chinle to
Albuquerque, I'll never forget the stench of stale, cheap whiskey
mixed with old, caked-on blood that permeated my cabin.

IIRC, he died on the gurney enroute, but of course for "CYA"
reasons the ACLS nurse declared that he died on the ground while
the paramedics were wheeling him from my airplane to the waiting
ambulance.

It certainly wasn't the patients laying in the stretchers -- it was
the spectacular Rocky mountains and Southwestern U.S. scenery
that tugged at my heartstrings.

Signed,
Still waiting for the hooded coward to take off his "anonomator"
Halloween mask and reveal his real name....

Ron

October 27th 03, 06:29 PM

>>Yea, really tugs at the heartstrings! Gosh.
>
>I recall landing a Cessna 206 once on a mud strip on the vast
>Navajo Indian Reservation (bigger than the state of New Jersey!)
>to pick up an almost-dead-beat-to-****-drunken Navajo Indian who
>had been rolled the night before.
>
>Throughout the 157 nautical mile flight from Chinle to
>Albuquerque, I'll never forget the stench of stale, cheap whiskey
>mixed with old, caked-on blood that permeated my cabin.
>
>IIRC, he died on the gurney enroute, but of course for "CYA"
>reasons the ACLS nurse declared that he died on the ground while
>the paramedics were wheeling him from my airplane to the waiting
>ambulance.
>
>It certainly wasn't the patients laying in the stretchers -- it was
>the spectacular Rocky mountains and Southwestern U.S. scenery
>that tugged at my heartstrings.

I wonder if we have flown for the same outfit. They used to do a lot of 206
flights around the reservation there. I have done some 206 flights into
Chinle...

I have done air med flights into Chinle too, not one of my favorite locations,
but they do have a paved runway now though. Taking a 414 into Zuni at night,
now thats interesting.

Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

Richard Brooks

October 27th 03, 08:17 PM

Autocollimator wrote:
>> Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>> From: George Shirley
>> Date: 10/26/03 5:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
>> Message-id: >
>>
>> Trump! My first child, born 12/28/1961.
>>
>> George
>>
>> Gordon wrote:
>>
>>> Porsche 550 Spyder with Halle Berry in the passenger seat, dressed
>>> for the Oscars.
>>>
>>> Beat that.
>>>
>>> :)
>>> G
>>
>
>
> That is easy to beat. A Stinson stretcher bearer plane taking a
> badly wounded aircrew member who can't be treated at the small
> hospital on our airbase to a large hospital in London for care. Just
> watch the Stinson lift off with one of your aircrew in the stretcher,
> clear the pattern and head for London to save the life of one of our
> own. That is true beauty.

Which part was beautiful assuming the correct use of the word, as in
visually only and not 'heart-warming' ?

Richard.

Matthew G. Saroff

October 28th 03, 02:48 AM

4 sets of identical twins, 2 gallons of Cool Whip, 5 quarts of
chocolate syrup, 2-1/4 pounds of strawberries, satin sheets, a
magnum of champagne, a trapeze, and a python.
--
--Matthew Saroff
Rules to live by:
1) To thine own self be true
2) Don't let your mouth write no checks that your butt can't cash
3) Interference in the time stream is forbidden, do not meddle in causality
Check http://www.pobox.com/~msaroff, including The Bad Hair Web Page

JSH5176

October 28th 03, 03:53 AM

Mike Wrote;
>Nothing beats a military jet fighter and it really doesn't matter
>which type because they're all extremely beautiful machines.

Not taking anything away from the jets, but from a beauty standpoint, nothing
today can come close to the British Spitfire or the P-51D, and while I've only
seen one in my life, I'd have to put old Art's Marauder in my top 5.

Jim
SAC Cop
78-88

ArtKramr

October 28th 03, 04:22 AM

>Subject: Re: The Most Beautiful Thing Ever
>From: (JSH5176)
>Date: 10/27/03 7:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Mike Wrote;
>>Nothing beats a military jet fighter and it really doesn't matter
>>which type because they're all extremely beautiful machines.
>
> Not taking anything away from the jets, but from a beauty standpoint,
>nothing
>today can come close to the British Spitfire or the P-51D, and while I've
>only
>seen one in my life, I'd have to put old Art's Marauder in my top 5.
>
>Jim
>SAC Cop
>78-88

Thank you Jim. To me there is nothing as beautiful as a Marauder, except a
squadron of Marauders all tucked in in tight formation heading east into the
rising sun over Germany.. (sigh)

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Mike Marron

October 28th 03, 04:35 AM

> (Ron) wrote:

>I wonder if we have flown for the same outfit. They used to do a lot of 206
>flights around the reservation there. I have done some 206 flights into
>Chinle...

>I have done air med flights into Chinle too, not one of my favorite locations,
>but they do have a paved runway now though. Taking a 414 into Zuni at night,
>now thats interesting.

Does the name Lee "Ya-taa-hey" Rhodes ring a bell?

[email protected]

October 28th 03, 04:44 AM

Matthew G. Saroff > wrote:

>4 sets of identical twins, 2 gallons of Cool Whip, 5 quarts of
>chocolate syrup, 2-1/4 pounds of strawberries, satin sheets, a
>magnum of champagne, a trapeze, and a python.

....and don't forget the bicycle tire pump...(don't ask and I
won't ask about your python)...
--

-Gord.

Mike Marron

October 28th 03, 05:05 AM

> (JSH5176) wrote:
>>Mike Marron wrote:

>>Nothing beats a military jet fighter and it really doesn't matter
>>which type because they're all extremely beautiful machines.

> Not taking anything away from the jets, but from a beauty standpoint, nothing
>today can come close to the British Spitfire or the P-51D, and while I've only
>seen one in my life, I'd have to put old Art's Marauder in my top 5.

Agree on the Spit and the Mustang part. I've seen the Marauder
at Kermit Weeks place and if nothing else, it sure puts the B-25 in
its place in the "beauty dept." The Brits did an elegant job designing
my stylish, swept-wing trike. Looks like a dolphin with wings and
in the right hands, in the air they're agile, quick, graceful, and
entertaining to watch like dolphins are.

Ron

October 28th 03, 05:10 AM

>>I have done air med flights into Chinle too, not one of my favorite
>locations,
>>but they do have a paved runway now though. Taking a 414 into Zuni at
>night,
>>now thats interesting.
>
>Does the name Lee "Ya-taa-hey" Rhodes ring a bell?
>
>

Why yes it does...except for the middle name. But the rest of it, is extremely
familar. :)

Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter