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Matt Wiser
November 11th 03, 03:37 PM
Anyone have a favorite or favorites
Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
choices in no order of preference:

1)F-4E
2)A-6E
3)A-4 (any variant)
4)A-7D/E
5)F-14
6)MiG-29
7)Su-22M
8)Jaguar
9)AV-8B
10)F-105D
11)A-10
12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)

Any others?



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Peter Kemp
November 11th 03, 04:18 PM
On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
> allegedly uttered:

>
>Anyone have a favorite or favorites
>Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
>choices in no order of preference:
>
>1)F-4E
>2)A-6E
>3)A-4 (any variant)
>4)A-7D/E
>5)F-14
>6)MiG-29
>7)Su-22M
>8)Jaguar
>9)AV-8B
>10)F-105D
>11)A-10
>12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)

13)Hawker Hunter
14)Me-262
15)F-86
16)MiG-15
---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - Drink Faster

Keith Willshaw
November 11th 03, 04:39 PM
"Peter Kemp" <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote in message
...
> On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
> > allegedly uttered:
>
> >
> >Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> >Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's
my
> >choices in no order of preference:
> >
> >1)F-4E
> >2)A-6E
> >3)A-4 (any variant)
> >4)A-7D/E
> >5)F-14
> >6)MiG-29
> >7)Su-22M
> >8)Jaguar
> >9)AV-8B
> >10)F-105D
> >11)A-10
> >12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
> 13)Hawker Hunter
> 14)Me-262
> 15)F-86
> 16)MiG-15

17) Supermarine Swift
18) Fairey Delta 2

Keith

Dale
November 11th 03, 04:39 PM
In article <3fb1029e$1@bg2.>, "Matt Wiser" >
wrote:

> Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
> choices in no order of preference:
>
> 1)F-4E
> 2)A-6E
> 3)A-4 (any variant)
> 4)A-7D/E
> 5)F-14
> 6)MiG-29
> 7)Su-22M
> 8)Jaguar
> 9)AV-8B
> 10)F-105D
> 11)A-10
> 12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)

Um, you seem to have forgotten the prettiest little jet ever to fly.

F-86

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

tw
November 11th 03, 05:10 PM
"Peter Kemp" <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote in message
...
> On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
> > allegedly uttered:
>
> >
> >Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> >Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's
my
> >choices in no order of preference:
> >
> >1)F-4E
> >2)A-6E
> >3)A-4 (any variant)
> >4)A-7D/E
> >5)F-14
> >6)MiG-29
> >7)Su-22M
> >8)Jaguar
> >9)AV-8B
> >10)F-105D
> >11)A-10
> >12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
> 13)Hawker Hunter
> 14)Me-262
> 15)F-86
> 16)MiG-15

EE Lightning (and a friend with a Victor).

Keith Willshaw
November 11th 03, 05:24 PM
"Dale" > wrote in message
...
> In article <3fb1029e$1@bg2.>, "Matt Wiser" >
> wrote:
>

>
> Um, you seem to have forgotten the prettiest little jet ever to fly.
>

Actually I had

Folland Gnat :)

Keith

Bjørnar Bolsøy
November 11th 03, 06:10 PM
"Matt Wiser" > wrote in
news:3fb1029e$1@bg2.:

>
> Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy?
> Here's my choices in no order of preference:
>
> 1)F-4E
> 2)A-6E
> 3)A-4 (any variant)
> 4)A-7D/E
> 5)F-14
> 6)MiG-29
> 7)Su-22M
> 8)Jaguar
> 9)AV-8B
> 10)F-105D
> 11)A-10
> 12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
> Any others?

F-16
T-38/F-5
T-45/Hawk
S-27/35

:)


Regards...

Grantland
November 11th 03, 06:12 PM
Peter Kemp <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote:

>On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
> allegedly uttered:
>
>>
>>Anyone have a favorite or favorites
>>Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
>>choices in no order of preference:
>>
>>1)F-4E
>>2)A-6E
>>3)A-4 (any variant)
>>4)A-7D/E
>>5)F-14
>>6)MiG-29
>>7)Su-22M
>>8)Jaguar
>>9)AV-8B
>>10)F-105D
>>11)A-10
>>12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
>13)Hawker Hunter
>14)Me-262
>15)F-86
>16)MiG-15
>---
>Peter Kemp

I would like a no-armor A-10 with plexiglass belly (the ex gun
trough). How many seats would fit down/back there?

Grantland

(game-viewing)

John Mullen
November 11th 03, 06:40 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dale" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article <3fb1029e$1@bg2.>, "Matt Wiser" >
> > wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Um, you seem to have forgotten the prettiest little jet ever to fly.
> >
>
> Actually I had
>
> Folland Gnat :)

Now that was a *tiny* plane! ISTR there was a plan to hang a couple of them
under a Vulcan to give protection on long strike missions.

Any idea if there were height/size restrictions involved in flying them?

John

Luke
November 11th 03, 10:16 PM
"Matt Wiser" > wrote in message
news:3fb1029e$1@bg2....
>
> Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
> choices in no order of preference:
>
> 1)F-4E
> 2)A-6E
> 3)A-4 (any variant)
> 4)A-7D/E
> 5)F-14
> 6)MiG-29
> 7)Su-22M
> 8)Jaguar
> 9)AV-8B
> 10)F-105D
> 11)A-10
> 12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
> Any others?
>
>
>
> Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access!



F/A-18
F-15
B-2
B-52
S-3
and of course the A-10, my favorite

Mary Shafer
November 11th 03, 10:31 PM
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:18:19 -0500, Peter Kemp
<peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote:

> On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
> > allegedly uttered:
>
> >Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> >Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
> >choices in no order of preference:
> >
> >1)F-4E
[snip]
> >11)A-10
> >12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)

> 15)F-86

Some overlap here, I see. Except for the first four, not at:

1. F-4E
2. F-15
3. F-104
4. SR-71
5. F-18
6. A-10
7. F-16
8. F-14
9. Harrier (or Sea Harrier or AV-8)
10. V-22 (stretching "jet" to turboprop)
11. Folland Gnat
12. F-105
13. F-86
14. MiG-17
15. MiG-25
16. B-70 (or XB-70)
17. B-52
18. B-58
19. A-4
20. F-8

Mind you, this has to be a fantasy. I couldn't even afford the fuel
for most of these.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Ditch
November 12th 03, 07:18 AM
F-5E
F-8
MiG-21
F-104

-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

Peter Twydell
November 12th 03, 07:53 AM
In article >, Mary Shafer
> writes
>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:18:19 -0500, Peter Kemp
><peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote:
>
>> On or about Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:37:52 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
>> > allegedly uttered:
>>
>> >Anyone have a favorite or favorites
>> >Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
>> >choices in no order of preference:
>> >
>> >1)F-4E
>[snip]
>> >11)A-10
>> >12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>
>> 15)F-86
>
>Some overlap here, I see. Except for the first four, not at:
>
>1. F-4E
>2. F-15
>3. F-104
>4. SR-71
>5. F-18
>6. A-10
>7. F-16
>8. F-14
>9. Harrier (or Sea Harrier or AV-8)
>10. V-22 (stretching "jet" to turboprop)
>11. Folland Gnat
>12. F-105
>13. F-86
>14. MiG-17
>15. MiG-25
>16. B-70 (or XB-70)
>17. B-52
>18. B-58
>19. A-4
>20. F-8
>
>Mind you, this has to be a fantasy. I couldn't even afford the fuel
>for most of these.
>
>Mary
>
Surely any list like this can't leave out the two best looking of all:
the Hawker Sea Hawk and Hawker Hunter (which Peter Kemp has already
mentioned).
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Mary Shafer
November 12th 03, 10:08 PM
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:53:08 +0000, Peter Twydell
> wrote:

> In article >, Mary Shafer
> > writes

> >Some overlap here, I see. Except for the first four, not at:
> >
> >1. F-4E
> >2. F-15
> >3. F-104
> >4. SR-71
> >5. F-18
> >6. A-10
> >7. F-16
> >8. F-14
> >9. Harrier (or Sea Harrier or AV-8)
> >10. V-22 (stretching "jet" to turboprop)
> >11. Folland Gnat
> >12. F-105
> >13. F-86
> >14. MiG-17
> >15. MiG-25
> >16. B-70 (or XB-70)
> >17. B-52
> >18. B-58
> >19. A-4
> >20. F-8
> >
> >Mind you, this has to be a fantasy. I couldn't even afford the fuel
> >for most of these.
> >
> Surely any list like this can't leave out the two best looking of all:
> the Hawker Sea Hawk and Hawker Hunter (which Peter Kemp has already
> mentioned).

Hawker makes good-looking aircraft, don't they? I left out the
Swedish aircraft, too.

By the time I get all the interesting and good-looking airplanes
listed, I've got every military jet ever flown. OK, I admit it. I
like them all. I'd take any one of them in a heartbeat. Even deltas
like the F-102 and the Mirages.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

william cogswell
November 13th 03, 01:37 AM
"Mary Shafer" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:53:08 +0000, Peter Twydell
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >, Mary Shafer
> > > writes
>
> > >Some overlap here, I see. Except for the first four, not at:
> > >
> > >1. F-4E
> > >2. F-15
> > >3. F-104
> > >4. SR-71
> > >5. F-18
> > >6. A-10
> > >7. F-16
> > >8. F-14
> > >9. Harrier (or Sea Harrier or AV-8)
> > >10. V-22 (stretching "jet" to turboprop)
> > >11. Folland Gnat
> > >12. F-105
> > >13. F-86
> > >14. MiG-17
> > >15. MiG-25
> > >16. B-70 (or XB-70)
> > >17. B-52
> > >18. B-58
> > >19. A-4
> > >20. F-8
> > >
> > >Mind you, this has to be a fantasy. I couldn't even afford the fuel
> > >for most of these.
> > >
> > Surely any list like this can't leave out the two best looking of all:
> > the Hawker Sea Hawk and Hawker Hunter (which Peter Kemp has already
> > mentioned).
>
> Hawker makes good-looking aircraft, don't they? I left out the
> Swedish aircraft, too.
>
> By the time I get all the interesting and good-looking airplanes
> listed, I've got every military jet ever flown. OK, I admit it. I
> like them all. I'd take any one of them in a heartbeat. Even deltas
> like the F-102 and the Mirages.
>
I also like the buccaneer
viggen
sea vixen
avro arrow
and tho it isn't a fighter a vulcan



cry havoc and unleash the hamsters of war

Regnirps
November 13th 03, 04:54 AM
I'll take

Seriously cool:

F-104
F-106
FA-18

Really fun:
F-16

Really fun and least likely to kill me:
F-5/T-38

-- Charlie Springer

Bjørnar
November 17th 03, 10:43 AM
"Bjørnar Bolsøy" > wrote in
:
> "Matt Wiser" > wrote in
> news:3fb1029e$1@bg2.:

>> Anyone have a favorite or favorites
>> Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy?
>> Here's my choices in no order of preference:
>>
>> 1)F-4E
>> 2)A-6E
>> 3)A-4 (any variant)
>> 4)A-7D/E
>> 5)F-14
>> 6)MiG-29
>> 7)Su-22M
>> 8)Jaguar
>> 9)AV-8B
>> 10)F-105D
>> 11)A-10
>> 12)SR-71 (couldn't resist this one)
>>
>> Any others?
>
> F-16
> T-38/F-5
> T-45/Hawk
> S-27/35

I seem to have forgotten another beautiful aircraft:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/267123/L/



Regards...

John Pelchat
November 17th 03, 05:08 PM
"Luke" > wrote in message >...
> "Matt Wiser" > wrote in message
> news:3fb1029e$1@bg2....
> >
> > Anyone have a favorite or favorites
> > Jet warbird(s) they'd like to have? Even if it's only a fantasy? Here's my
> > choices in no order of preference:
> >

<snip for brevity>

Well as long as we are doing this for fun . . . I want a two seater so
I can take one of the kids to Oshkosh, so my choices are:

1. The TF-8 "Twosader" (two seat F-8 Crusader). Sadly, the single
example was written off many many years ago.

2. SK-37 trainer version of the Viggen. Replace the radar and fire
control with a weather set and leave room for luggage, tents, sleeping
bags,camping chairs, with room left over for a few ice coolers.
Update the panel with some modern civil avionics to reduce the weeping
when work was needed.

And if it could be done, update the engine with a later model of the
JT8D (IIRC, the Viggen powerplant design began with an early JT8D and
added an afterburner). I'm sure the road to the orginal engine design
was paved in a significant quantity of anguish and sweat and that this
would be no easier, but hey, I got to check reality at the door.

I may not be able to out-turn or out-run everyone else, but I would
probably take at least an honorable mention for racket on takeoff or
landing.

that was fun . . .

John

WaltBJ
November 17th 03, 08:41 PM
1) F104B 56-310 with its J79-19 engine and tip tanks. If I couldn't
afford fuel etc I'd just wash and wax it once a week while it sat in
my driveway. And give it a pat every day.
2) PBY5A with 3! P&W PT6 engines. Go-anywhere bird.
3) TF102A with a JT8D-17 engine. (Great and unique XC bird!)
4) Mr. Mulligan - yes, the DGA8A was a warbird! Real style.
5) Beech D17S, also a warbird. More style.
6) Lockheed L1011-500 (ex RAF warbird!)
7) Ju87 with sirens - just for the hell of it.
8) Klingon 'Bird of Prey' - to go check out the galaxy.
Walt BJ

November 17th 03, 09:13 PM
(WaltBJ) wrote:

>8) Klingon 'Bird of Prey' - to go check out the galaxy.
>Walt BJ

Check out the stealth eh?...wonder how thick the RAM coating was
on THAT machine?
--

-Gord.

Peter Kemp
November 17th 03, 09:53 PM
On or about Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:13:42 GMT, "Gord Beaman"
) allegedly uttered:

(WaltBJ) wrote:
>
>>8) Klingon 'Bird of Prey' - to go check out the galaxy.
>>Walt BJ
>
>Check out the stealth eh?...wonder how thick the RAM coating was
>on THAT machine?

Notice how in later Star trek stuff they were sometimes detectable -
that was due to the 8" wing fences.

---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - Drink Faster

Greg Hennessy
November 17th 03, 11:29 PM
On 17 Nov 2003 12:41:33 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote:


>2) PBY5A with 3! P&W PT6 engines. Go-anywhere bird.

That would make it rather Dornier like with 3 engines. You got a ref for
this conversion Walt ? I'd love to see a pic.


greg


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WaltBJ
November 18th 03, 04:58 AM
Greg Hennessy > wrote in message >...
> On 17 Nov 2003 12:41:33 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote:
>
>
> >2) PBY5A with 3! P&W PT6 engines. Go-anywhere bird.
>
> That would make it rather Dornier like with 3 engines. You got a ref for
> this conversion Walt ? I'd love to see a pic.
> > greg

Sorry, it's just my concept. I have seen PBYs with two round and two
flat engines. I thought 3 PT6s would be better.
Walt BJ

Greg Hennessy
November 18th 03, 12:07 PM
On 17 Nov 2003 20:58:15 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote:

>
>Sorry, it's just my concept. I have seen PBYs with two round and two
>flat engines. I thought 3 PT6s would be better.
>Walt BJ


Methinks you'd have a very full calendar on the airshow circuit with it
also :-).


greg


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