Log in

View Full Version : Aircraft purchase scam


November 10th 07, 12:54 AM
This sounds all very fishy to me.

I am not interested in proceeding with this transaction.

Jean-Pierre Harrison

John Kingsbury wrote:
> > I will settle for the price. I truly appreciate your
> > effort and time in all. I hope you are not supposed to
> > be collecting any extra fee from me? I regret to state
> > that I won\'t be able to come over to view the
> > aircraft, as we have just concluded our meeting here
> > in the UK and I have been handed a letter of transfer
> > that commences from tomorrow.
> >
> > Am sending you a comprehensive mail with the way
> > things are going to go through because I have just
> > been posted out of the state to Western Europe for
> > official responsibilities (W.H.O.)
> >
> > The shipping and moving firm will have to meet with
> > the owner of the aircraft but I know there won\'t be
> > any transaction unless you have given my words and
> > approval.
> >
> > Payment has been drawn out to your name so as to
> > proceed with this transaction. A check/ Bank Draft of
> > $145,000 will be sent to you, you will take 20% of it
> > as deposit for the airplane just to make sure that it
> > is not sold to any other person, and to pull off the
> > ads on any advert that it might have posted on.
> >
> > You will make sure the rest are been remitted to the
> > shipping and Moving Firm so as to enable them carry
> > out all the inspections and rightful responsibilities
> > as regards to this transaction, because they have
> > confirmed to me that unless they receive some part
> > payment ASAP. They won\'t be coming over to the state.
> >
> > As soon as they confirm the status of the transaction
> > successful and approved by government that is after
> > going through inspections and all legal proper
> > documentaries the complete funds for the aircraft will
> > be wired into your nominated account before the
> > release of the title or the change of ownership
> > documents.
> >
> > I will need you to provide me with either your company
> > name or name and address that will be attention to the
> > check/Bank Draft.
> >
> > Thanks for your understanding and effort.
> >
> > Please keep me advised as to any additional
> > requirements you have.
> >
> > Respectfully John.
> >
> > --- Jean-Pierre Harrison > escribió:
> >
> >
>> >> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>> >>
>> >> I am reachable via one of the two telephone numbers
>> >> listed. If you do reach me on one number, then try the other.
>> >>
>> >> The minimum price for the aircraft is $165, 000.
>> >>
>> >> There are plenty of photographs and all specs of the
>> >> aircraft at www.n614jd.info. I don\'t really know what additional
>> >> photographs or specs you are asking for or what else to send.
>> >>
>> >> My schedule is open so please feel free to pick and
>> >> day and time to view the aircraft.
>> >>
>> >> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>> >>
>> >> 281/658-2891 cell
>> >> 408/872-1257 home
>> >>
>> >> John Kingsbury wrote:
>> >>
>>> >>> Jean.
>>> >>> Thanks for you response. I think need the plane,
>>> >>>
>> >> am
>> >>
>>> >>> actually purchasing this airplane for my wife has
>>> >>>
>> >> a
>> >>
>>> >>> gift for her upcoming birthday and will not want
>>> >>>
>> >> to
>> >>
>>> >>> disappoint. I will need you contact phone number
>>> >>>
>> >> were
>> >>
>>> >>> you can be reached at all times.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do send me more pics and specs of the aircraft and
>>> >>> Kindly state the bottom price for the airplane I
>>> >>>
>> >> would
>> >>
>>> >>> need us to set up a meeting so that I can take a
>>> >>>
>> >> good
>> >>
>>> >>> look at it before we proceed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Currently am attending a summit in the UK with
>>> >>>
>> >> W.H.O
>> >>
>>> >>> but hopefully I should be done by Monday so
>>> >>>
>> >> anytime
>> >>
>>> >>> from then will be ok with me.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I await your response ASAP.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kingsbury.
>>> >>> --- jp > escribió:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Twin Comanche is still available.
>>>> >>>> Details at www.n614jd.info.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Price $165,000.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Aircraft is in excellent conditions, squawk free,
>>>> >>>> and ready to fly.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Any of the payment methods you mentioned are fine
>>>> >>>> with me.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Any date for your viewing is fine.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> My home address:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 11835 Skyline Blvd.
>>>> >>>> Los Gatos, CA 95033
>>>> >>>> home: 408/872-1257
>>>> >>>> cell: 281/658-2891 (does not work when I am at
>>>> >>>>
>> >> home
>> >>
>>>> >>>> in the mountains)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Aircraft based at Palo Alto Airport, Palo Alto,
>>>> >>>>
>> >> CA,
>> >>
>>>> >>>> (KPAO)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I am a high time CFI/CFII/MEI if you need dual
>>>> >>>> instruction in the aircraft.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thank you.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message
>>>> >>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> >>>> From: John Kingsbury
>>>> >>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 03:52:45 +0100 (CET)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I will like to know if the airplane is still for
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> sale.
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Let me know the present condition (Send more
>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> pics
>> >>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> if
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> there is any) The asking price.Kindly indicate
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> which
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> is your
>>>>> >>>>> Prefered Method of payment.Bank Draft,Cashier
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheque
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Or wire transfer.
>>>>> >>>>> I will also be glad if you can fix a date and
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> address
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> that i come view
>>>>> >>>>> it.I \'ll await your swift response.
>>>>> >>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>> John Kingsbury.

BT
November 10th 07, 02:49 AM
Scam... yes..

> wrote in message
oups.com...
This sounds all very fishy to me.

I am not interested in proceeding with this transaction.

Jean-Pierre Harrison

John Kingsbury wrote:
> > I will settle for the price. I truly appreciate your
> > effort and time in all. I hope you are not supposed to
> > be collecting any extra fee from me? I regret to state
> > that I won\'t be able to come over to view the
> > aircraft, as we have just concluded our meeting here
> > in the UK and I have been handed a letter of transfer
> > that commences from tomorrow.
> >
> > Am sending you a comprehensive mail with the way
> > things are going to go through because I have just
> > been posted out of the state to Western Europe for
> > official responsibilities (W.H.O.)
> >
> > The shipping and moving firm will have to meet with
> > the owner of the aircraft but I know there won\'t be
> > any transaction unless you have given my words and
> > approval.
> >
> > Payment has been drawn out to your name so as to
> > proceed with this transaction. A check/ Bank Draft of
> > $145,000 will be sent to you, you will take 20% of it
> > as deposit for the airplane just to make sure that it
> > is not sold to any other person, and to pull off the
> > ads on any advert that it might have posted on.
> >
> > You will make sure the rest are been remitted to the
> > shipping and Moving Firm so as to enable them carry
> > out all the inspections and rightful responsibilities
> > as regards to this transaction, because they have
> > confirmed to me that unless they receive some part
> > payment ASAP. They won\'t be coming over to the state.
> >
> > As soon as they confirm the status of the transaction
> > successful and approved by government that is after
> > going through inspections and all legal proper
> > documentaries the complete funds for the aircraft will
> > be wired into your nominated account before the
> > release of the title or the change of ownership
> > documents.
> >
> > I will need you to provide me with either your company
> > name or name and address that will be attention to the
> > check/Bank Draft.
> >
> > Thanks for your understanding and effort.
> >
> > Please keep me advised as to any additional
> > requirements you have.
> >
> > Respectfully John.
> >
> > --- Jean-Pierre Harrison > escribió:
> >
> >
>> >> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>> >>
>> >> I am reachable via one of the two telephone numbers
>> >> listed. If you do reach me on one number, then try the other.
>> >>
>> >> The minimum price for the aircraft is $165, 000.
>> >>
>> >> There are plenty of photographs and all specs of the
>> >> aircraft at www.n614jd.info. I don\'t really know what additional
>> >> photographs or specs you are asking for or what else to send.
>> >>
>> >> My schedule is open so please feel free to pick and
>> >> day and time to view the aircraft.
>> >>
>> >> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>> >>
>> >> 281/658-2891 cell
>> >> 408/872-1257 home
>> >>
>> >> John Kingsbury wrote:
>> >>
>>> >>> Jean.
>>> >>> Thanks for you response. I think need the plane,
>>> >>>
>> >> am
>> >>
>>> >>> actually purchasing this airplane for my wife has
>>> >>>
>> >> a
>> >>
>>> >>> gift for her upcoming birthday and will not want
>>> >>>
>> >> to
>> >>
>>> >>> disappoint. I will need you contact phone number
>>> >>>
>> >> were
>> >>
>>> >>> you can be reached at all times.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do send me more pics and specs of the aircraft and
>>> >>> Kindly state the bottom price for the airplane I
>>> >>>
>> >> would
>> >>
>>> >>> need us to set up a meeting so that I can take a
>>> >>>
>> >> good
>> >>
>>> >>> look at it before we proceed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Currently am attending a summit in the UK with
>>> >>>
>> >> W.H.O
>> >>
>>> >>> but hopefully I should be done by Monday so
>>> >>>
>> >> anytime
>> >>
>>> >>> from then will be ok with me.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I await your response ASAP.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kingsbury.
>>> >>> --- jp > escribió:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Twin Comanche is still available.
>>>> >>>> Details at www.n614jd.info.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Price $165,000.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Aircraft is in excellent conditions, squawk free,
>>>> >>>> and ready to fly.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Any of the payment methods you mentioned are fine
>>>> >>>> with me.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Any date for your viewing is fine.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> My home address:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 11835 Skyline Blvd.
>>>> >>>> Los Gatos, CA 95033
>>>> >>>> home: 408/872-1257
>>>> >>>> cell: 281/658-2891 (does not work when I am at
>>>> >>>>
>> >> home
>> >>
>>>> >>>> in the mountains)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Aircraft based at Palo Alto Airport, Palo Alto,
>>>> >>>>
>> >> CA,
>> >>
>>>> >>>> (KPAO)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I am a high time CFI/CFII/MEI if you need dual
>>>> >>>> instruction in the aircraft.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thank you.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message
>>>> >>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> >>>> From: John Kingsbury
>>>> >>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 03:52:45 +0100 (CET)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I will like to know if the airplane is still for
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> sale.
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Let me know the present condition (Send more
>>>>> >>>>>
>> >> pics
>> >>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> if
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> there is any) The asking price.Kindly indicate
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> which
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> is your
>>>>> >>>>> Prefered Method of payment.Bank Draft,Cashier
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheque
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Or wire transfer.
>>>>> >>>>> I will also be glad if you can fix a date and
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> address
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> that i come view
>>>>> >>>>> it.I \'ll await your swift response.
>>>>> >>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>> John Kingsbury.

December 4th 07, 05:39 PM
This IS a scam, I just received the exact same message regarding my
airplane, but with $295,000 instead of your $145,000. I think I'll
reply to him just so I can waste his shipping fees. Nobody buys an
airplane without having first looked at it and talked to the owner on
the phone.

DT

On Nov 9, 6:54 pm, wrote:
> This sounds all very fishy to me.
>
> I am not interested in proceeding with this transaction.
>
> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>
> John Kingsbury wrote:
> > > I will settle for the price. I truly appreciate your
> > > effort and time in all. I hope you are not supposed to
> > > be collecting any extra fee from me? I regret to state
> > > that I won\'t be able to come over to view the
> > > aircraft, as we have just concluded our meeting here
> > > in the UK and I have been handed a letter of transfer
> > > that commences from tomorrow.
>
> > > Am sending you a comprehensive mail with the way
> > > things are going to go through because I have just
> > > been posted out of the state to Western Europe for
> > > official responsibilities (W.H.O.)
>
> > > The shipping and moving firm will have to meet with
> > > the owner of the aircraft but I know there won\'t be
> > > any transaction unless you have given my words and
> > > approval.
>
> > > Payment has been drawn out to your name so as to
> > > proceed with this transaction. A check/ Bank Draft of
> > > $145,000 will be sent to you, you will take 20% of it
> > > as deposit for the airplane just to make sure that it
> > > is not sold to any other person, and to pull off the
> > > ads on any advert that it might have posted on.
>
> > > You will make sure the rest are been remitted to the
> > > shipping and Moving Firm so as to enable them carry
> > > out all the inspections and rightful responsibilities
> > > as regards to this transaction, because they have
> > > confirmed to me that unless they receive some part
> > > payment ASAP. They won\'t be coming over to the state.
>
> > > As soon as they confirm the status of the transaction
> > > successful and approved by government that is after
> > > going through inspections and all legal proper
> > > documentaries the complete funds for the aircraft will
> > > be wired into your nominated account before the
> > > release of the title or the change of ownership
> > > documents.
>
> > > I will need you to provide me with either your company
> > > name or name and address that will be attention to the
> > > check/Bank Draft.
>
> > > Thanks for your understanding and effort.
>
> > > Please keep me advised as to any additional
> > > requirements you have.
>
> > > Respectfully John.
>
> > > --- Jean-Pierre Harrison > escribió:
>
> >> >> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>
> >> >> I am reachable via one of the two telephone numbers
> >> >> listed. If you do reach me on one number, then try the other.
>
> >> >> The minimum price for the aircraft is $165, 000.
>
> >> >> There are plenty of photographs and all specs of the
> >> >> aircraft atwww.n614jd.info. I don\'t really know what additional
> >> >> photographs or specs you are asking for or what else to send.
>
> >> >> My schedule is open so please feel free to pick and
> >> >> day and time to view the aircraft.
>
> >> >> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>
> >> >> 281/658-2891 cell
> >> >> 408/872-1257 home
>
> >> >> John Kingsbury wrote:
>
> >>> >>> Jean.
> >>> >>> Thanks for you response. I think need the plane,
>
> >> >> am
>
> >>> >>> actually purchasing this airplane for my wife has
>
> >> >> a
>
> >>> >>> gift for her upcoming birthday and will not want
>
> >> >> to
>
> >>> >>> disappoint. I will need you contact phone number
>
> >> >> were
>
> >>> >>> you can be reached at all times.
>
> >>> >>> Do send me more pics and specs of the aircraft and
> >>> >>> Kindly state the bottom price for the airplane I
>
> >> >> would
>
> >>> >>> need us to set up a meeting so that I can take a
>
> >> >> good
>
> >>> >>> look at it before we proceed.
>
> >>> >>> Currently am attending a summit in the UK with
>
> >> >> W.H.O
>
> >>> >>> but hopefully I should be done by Monday so
>
> >> >> anytime
>
> >>> >>> from then will be ok with me.
>
> >>> >>> I await your response ASAP.
>
> >>> >>> Kingsbury.
> >>> >>> --- jp > escribió:
>
> >>>> >>>> Dear Mr. Kingsbury,
>
> >>>> >>>> Twin Comanche is still available.
> >>>> >>>> Details atwww.n614jd.info.
>
> >>>> >>>> Price $165,000.
>
> >>>> >>>> Aircraft is in excellent conditions, squawk free,
> >>>> >>>> and ready to fly.
>
> >>>> >>>> Any of the payment methods you mentioned are fine
> >>>> >>>> with me.
>
> >>>> >>>> Any date for your viewing is fine.
>
> >>>> >>>> My home address:
>
> >>>> >>>> 11835 Skyline Blvd.
> >>>> >>>> Los Gatos, CA 95033
> >>>> >>>> home: 408/872-1257
> >>>> >>>> cell: 281/658-2891 (does not work when I am at
>
> >> >> home
>
> >>>> >>>> in the mountains)
>
> >>>> >>>> Aircraft based at Palo Alto Airport, Palo Alto,
>
> >> >> CA,
>
> >>>> >>>> (KPAO)
>
> >>>> >>>> I am a high time CFI/CFII/MEI if you need dual
> >>>> >>>> instruction in the aircraft.
>
> >>>> >>>> Thank you.
>
> >>>> >>>> Jean-Pierre Harrison
>
> >>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message
> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------
> >>>> >>>> From: John Kingsbury
>
> >> >> >
>
> >>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 03:52:45 +0100 (CET)
>
> >>>>> >>>>> I will like to know if the airplane is still for
>
> >>>> >>>> sale.
>
> >>>>> >>>>> Let me know the present condition (Send more
>
> >> >> pics
>
> >>>> >>>> if
>
> >>>>> >>>>> there is any) The asking price.Kindly indicate
>
> >>>> >>>> which
>
> >>>>> >>>>> is your
> >>>>> >>>>> Prefered Method of payment.Bank Draft,Cashier
>
> >>>> >>>> Cheque
>
> >>>>> >>>>> Or wire transfer.
> >>>>> >>>>> I will also be glad if you can fix a date and
>
> >>>> >>>> address
>
> >>>>> >>>>> that i come view
> >>>>> >>>>> it.I \'ll await your swift response.
> >>>>> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> >>>>> John Kingsbury.

randall g
December 5th 07, 01:37 AM
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:54:19 -0800, wrote:

>This sounds all very fishy to me.
>
>I am not interested in proceeding with this transaction.
>
>Jean-Pierre Harrison
>
>John Kingsbury wrote:

>> > Payment has been drawn out to your name so as to
>> > proceed with this transaction. A check/ Bank Draft of
>> > $145,000 will be sent to you, you will take 20% of it
>> > as deposit for the airplane just to make sure that it
>> > is not sold to any other person, and to pull off the
>> > ads on any advert that it might have posted on.
>> >
>> > You will make sure the rest are been remitted to the
>> > shipping and Moving Firm so as to enable them carry
>> > out all the inspections and rightful responsibilities
>> > as regards to this transaction, because they have
>> > confirmed to me that unless they receive some part
>> > payment ASAP. They won\'t be coming over to the state.



How the scam works is they send you an international cheque for the
$145K. It is a forgery. You deposit it, keep your 20% and give the rest
to the scammer or his associate. Your bank does not find out the cheque
is no good for a few weeks. By then they have vanished with your money.




randall g =%^)> PPASEL+Night 1974 Cardinal RG
http://www.telemark.net/randallg
Lots of aerial photographs of British Columbia at:
http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos.htm
Vancouver's famous Kat Kam: http://www.katkam.ca

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
December 5th 07, 01:59 AM
"randall g" > wrote in message
...
<...>
> How the scam works is they send you an international cheque for the
> $145K. It is a forgery. You deposit it, keep your 20% and give the rest
> to the scammer or his associate. Your bank does not find out the cheque
> is no good for a few weeks. By then they have vanished with your money.
>

There are variations on this.

Another scam - if someone comes to your front door saying they are checking
for ticks due to the change in the weather and asks you to take your clothes
off and dance around with your arms up, DO NOT DO IT!! They only want to
see you naked!

I wish I'd gotten this yesterday. I feel so stupid!

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

Matt W. Barrow
December 5th 07, 05:28 AM
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
news:UcydnZ2R07WCm8vanZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "randall g" > wrote in message
> ...
> <...>
>> How the scam works is they send you an international cheque for the
>> $145K. It is a forgery. You deposit it, keep your 20% and give the rest
>> to the scammer or his associate. Your bank does not find out the cheque
>> is no good for a few weeks. By then they have vanished with your money.
>>
>
> There are variations on this.
>
> Another scam - if someone comes to your front door saying they are
> checking for ticks due to the change in the weather and asks you to take
> your clothes off and dance around with your arms up, DO NOT DO IT!!
> They only want to see you naked!
>
> I wish I'd gotten this yesterday. I feel so stupid!

Especially when you had to wash the vomit off your front steps. :~)

Jay Honeck
December 5th 07, 03:14 PM
> > How the scam works is they send you an international cheque for the
> > $145K. It is a forgery. You deposit it, keep your 20% and give the rest
> > to the scammer or his associate. Your bank does not find out the cheque
> > is no good for a few weeks. By then they have vanished with your money.

Hey, we see a similar scam at the hotel. It's always a British
"doctor" who wishes to reserve 15 suites for thus and such a period of
time, but can't be bothered with on-line booking agents like
Travelocity.

He'll promise to send me "X" thousands of dollars, which I must send
20% of to someone else because of...well, you get the point.

I used to string 'em on for weeks, just for fun. Now I just delete
'em.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Denny
December 7th 07, 12:20 PM
The other issue that none of the gullible ever think of, is that if
the deal were "real" they will owe city, state, and federal, income
taxes on the entire amount... Since a sudden extra 100K or 200K, or
whatever, passed through their hands they are also now subject to AMT
in addition...
Oh well, someone pointed out that no one ever went bankrupt from
estimating the stupidity of the american public...

denny

Google