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George Z. Bush
November 19th 03, 01:55 PM
Whatever happened happened forty years ago. It's time to let the dead rest in
peace. Anyway, if I have a choice of believing the findings of a commission
headed by a Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court or the rantings of
a bunch of conspiracy loons, it's not much of a contest.

George Z.

PS - There's nothing in what you posted that indicates why it should be in
rec.aviation.military. Are we supposed to be some sort of conspiracy nuts
comparable to the rest of the NGs you cross-posted to? I don't think we are, so
please go away and peddle your theories in central Europe or whereever.


Michael Petukhov wrote:
> Russian state TV just showed a documentary "JFK murder, the 13-th
> version" with interview of a man who said to shot president Kennedy
> from front-right direction. His name is James Files. The interview was
> recorded in 1994. At that time he was a prisoner of, as was said one
> prison in Illinois where he was serving his life term.
>
> His story in brief was the following: He said he was CIA agent. he had
> the same CIA supervisor with Oswald. He received the order to deliver
> rifles to Dallas from C. Nicoletti, right hand of mafia boss Sam
> Giancana. Oswald was helping him to adjust rifles a few days before
> murder, but Oswald knew nothing about murder planning, and did not ask
> any questions. There were two mafia guys who were assign to shoot
> president, Nicoletti and Rosselli who was messenger between CIA and
> mafia bosses. However Files was offered to participate as well one day
> before the killing. He agreed because he was hating JFK. He selected
> Fireball rifle and the position behind the fence on the right side of
> president cortege pathway. He did one shot only which he saw hit JFK
> right temple almost simultaneously with the second shot from the back.
> His position behind the fence was guarded by two secrete service
> officers who let him go free. He bited the shell, as he always did and
> left it on the fence.
>
> Nicoletti, Rosselli and Giancana were killed in 1977 when Congress
> started his second official investigation.
>
> There were also interview with retired col. Daniel Marvan, a green
> beret who was offered to kill lieutenant William Bruce Picer, who
> officially filmed JFK autopsy in hospital in Bethesda and kept a copy
> for himself. Marvan refused but Picer was anyway killed.
>
> Some more details about this story and, of course, attempts to
> question its credibility can be found at:
>
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/files.htm
> http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/lhocia.htm
> http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/11/11-09/11-09-02.html
>
> Particularly last one include very detailed description of the
> Mr. Files story.
>
> Enjoy
>
> Michael

Keith Willshaw
November 19th 03, 02:27 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
om...
> Russian state TV just showed a documentary "JFK murder, the 13-th
> version" with interview of a man who said to shot president Kennedy
> from front-right direction. His name is James Files. The interview was
> recorded in 1994. At that time he was a prisoner of, as was said one
> prison in Illinois where he was serving his life term.
>

For attempted murder, he's a self admitted criminal and proven liar
who's claims of a military record have been shown to be false
and who along with various other crooks is attempting to make
money by peddling a fake tale to gullible conspirowhackos

For a detailed refutation of this story
http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/11/11-09/11-09-02.html

One of the more relling errors is the claim that he
and Lee Harvey Oswald were pals on New Orleans in1961.

Oswald was in the USSR (Minsk) at the time so any conspiracy
would have to involve not only the FBI , CIA and the Chicago
mob but the KGB as well.

Keith

Michael Petukhov
November 19th 03, 07:40 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message >...
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Russian state TV just showed a documentary "JFK murder, the 13-th
> > version" with interview of a man who said to shot president Kennedy
> > from front-right direction. His name is James Files. The interview was
> > recorded in 1994. At that time he was a prisoner of, as was said one
> > prison in Illinois where he was serving his life term.
> >
>
> For attempted murder, he's a self admitted criminal and proven liar
> who's claims of a military record have been shown to be false
> and who along with various other crooks is attempting to make
> money by peddling a fake tale to gullible conspirowhackos
>
> For a detailed refutation of this story
> http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/11/11-09/11-09-02.html
>
> One of the more relling errors is the claim that he
> and Lee Harvey Oswald were pals on New Orleans in1961.
>
> Oswald was in the USSR (Minsk) at the time so any conspiracy
> would have to involve not only the FBI , CIA and the Chicago
> mob but the KGB as well.
>
> Keith

You missed the point Keith. I am saying his story is true.
The point is if not him who hit the US president in his
right temple from the front-right direction, as it so
well visible in the film taken at that moment? Was it
Oswald Keith, in your opinion?

Michael

Michael Petukhov
November 19th 03, 07:42 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message >...
> "Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Russian state TV just showed a documentary "JFK murder, the 13-th
> > version" with interview of a man who said to shot president Kennedy
> > from front-right direction. His name is James Files. The interview was
> > recorded in 1994. At that time he was a prisoner of, as was said one
> > prison in Illinois where he was serving his life term.
> >
>
> For attempted murder, he's a self admitted criminal and proven liar
> who's claims of a military record have been shown to be false
> and who along with various other crooks is attempting to make
> money by peddling a fake tale to gullible conspirowhackos
>
> For a detailed refutation of this story
> http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/11/11-09/11-09-02.html
>
> One of the more relling errors is the claim that he
> and Lee Harvey Oswald were pals on New Orleans in1961.
>
> Oswald was in the USSR (Minsk) at the time so any conspiracy
> would have to involve not only the FBI , CIA and the Chicago
> mob but the KGB as well.
>
> Keith

Correction: I am NOT saying his story is true. Of course.

Michael

David Windhorst
November 19th 03, 08:50 PM
Michael Petukhov wrote:

>snip
>
>The point is if not him who hit the US president in his
>right temple from the front-right direction, as it so
>well visible in the film taken at that moment?
>
No, Michael, it is not, and you are wrong. And if you'd ever had any
first-hand experience -- or even second-hand experience -- with firearms
and hydrodynamic shock, you'd know that.

Keith Willshaw
November 19th 03, 09:12 PM
"Michael Petukhov" > wrote in message
m...
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
>...

>
> You missed the point Keith. I am saying his story is true.
> The point is if not him who hit the US president in his
> right temple from the front-right direction, as it so
> well visible in the film taken at that moment? Was it
> Oswald Keith, in your opinion?
>

I have no expertise in this matter and I therefore cannot sensibly
make a course for or against the theory propounded. However
I have no reason to doubt the honesty of the Warren commission
in its investigation, for the most part those involved seem to have
been honest and diligent and Earl Warren himself seems to have
been a decent and honorable man.

Keith

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