View Full Version : Which aircraft will live in history forever. AND WHY?
ArtKramr
November 27th 03, 01:53 PM
Which ones. And why?
Arthur Kramer
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Keith Willshaw
November 27th 03, 02:06 PM
"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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> Which ones. And why?
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Albatross - Best German fighter of WW1
Sopwith Camel - Most important Allied fighter of WW1
Spitfire & Hurricane - Battle of Britain
P-51 - Played major role in the destruction of the Luftwaffe
Lancaster - Most important night bomber of WW2 that played major
role in the destruction of German Industrial base
B-17 - Same role by day
B-29 - Same role in PTO and of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Keith
Eldenracecar
November 27th 03, 03:35 PM
To much American here so,
DH Moth series. What the Cub is to your side of the pond, the Moth is here.
Comet. The first and prettiest
Hunter. The best looking aircraft ever built
Avro Vulcan. Just imposing
Plus the usual :- Spitfire,Mustang, B25 B29.
Brian
Peter Kemp
November 27th 03, 04:03 PM
On or about Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:43 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
> allegedly uttered:
>
>"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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>> Which ones. And why?
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> Albatross - Best German fighter of WW1
>Sopwith Camel - Most important Allied fighter of WW1
>Spitfire & Hurricane - Battle of Britain
>P-51 - Played major role in the destruction of the Luftwaffe
>Lancaster - Most important night bomber of WW2 that played major
> role in the destruction of German Industrial base
> B-17 - Same role by day
> B-29 - Same role in PTO and of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki
>
Moving on from WWII....
F-86 & MiG-15 from Korea
F-105 from Vietnam
Sea Harrier from the Falklands
---
Peter Kemp
Life is short - Drink Faster
Trooper McVey
November 27th 03, 06:00 PM
Getting into Modern day...... B-52 Stratofortress, Helped Drop Edge of
Space Aircraft, furthering Mans Technology.......Plus the all important role
it has played from Vietnam up to Desert Storm II...................Trooper
"Peter Kemp" <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote in message
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> On or about Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:43 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
> > allegedly uttered:
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> >"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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> >> Which ones. And why?
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> >>
> >
> > Albatross - Best German fighter of WW1
> >Sopwith Camel - Most important Allied fighter of WW1
> >Spitfire & Hurricane - Battle of Britain
> >P-51 - Played major role in the destruction of the Luftwaffe
> >Lancaster - Most important night bomber of WW2 that played major
> > role in the destruction of German Industrial base
> > B-17 - Same role by day
> > B-29 - Same role in PTO and of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki
> >
> Moving on from WWII....
>
> F-86 & MiG-15 from Korea
> F-105 from Vietnam
> Sea Harrier from the Falklands
>
> ---
> Peter Kemp
>
> Life is short - Drink Faster
C. McCartan
November 27th 03, 06:57 PM
F-4 for its roll since the 50s
UH-1 for it roll in viet Nam.
Ed Majden
November 27th 03, 07:21 PM
"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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> Which ones. And why?
From a Canadian point of view I would mention The CF-105 AVRO Arrow.
This will not be forgotten along with the fools that ordered the program
terminated and the existing aircraft being cut-up and destroyed.
Also worthy of mention is the CF-100 Canuck, first non swept winged
aircraft to break the sound barrier in a dive and the only Canadian designed
jet fighter to go into production.
IBM
November 28th 03, 05:31 AM
"C. McCartan" > wrote in
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> F-4 for its roll since the 50s
> UH-1 for it roll in viet Nam.
roll?
role, surely.
IBM
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MichaelJP
November 28th 03, 09:11 AM
"ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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> Which ones. And why?
Concorde.
OK, it's not a military jet but it is likely to be the only passenger
supersonic airliner ever to be put in service, certainly in our lifetimes
anyway.
- Michael
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
November 28th 03, 10:42 AM
MichaelJP wrote:
> "ArtKramr" > wrote in message
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>> Which ones. And why?
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> Concorde.
>
> OK, it's not a military jet but it is likely to be the only passenger
> supersonic airliner ever to be put in service, certainly in our
> lifetimes anyway.
Fokker Dr. I
DC-3
B-17
Bf-109
Mitsubishi A6M
Spitfire
P-51
MiG-15
McDonnell Douglas F-4
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David McArthur
November 28th 03, 10:54 AM
(ArtKramr) wrote in message >...
> Which ones. And why?
Difficult question - I can think of about a dozen a/c all for
different reasons:
Lancaster, B17 for same reasons as Keith's.
DH Mosquito - some wood, some qlue and 2 bloody great merlin engines -
brilliant!
This one'll come up a lot - P51 Mustang. Kick arse fighter and not bad
looking either.
TSR-2: Beautiful aircraft (Britain's Avro Arrow!) 2 Concorde engines
on an a/c 1/6th of the weight. Would probably have stayed state of the
art into the 90s (ok, slight exaggeration) Shot down not by a SAM, but
by a MacNamara/Heally(?)curve ball.
DC-3 Dakota - Lancasters, B17s etc might have bombed, but the DC3 did
a lot of the donkey work!
B-52: 50 yrs old and still going strong.
The Harrier: did 40 yrs ago what the JSF is doing today (...again
slight exaggeration). and without it the Falklands would be the Islas
Malvinas.
Rob van Riel
November 28th 03, 05:08 PM
(ArtKramr) wrote in message >...
> Which ones. And why?
If you want a real answer to this, maybe you should try doing a very
small survey on other newsgroups. Pick a bunch of non-military,
non-technology oriented groups, and simply ask people which three
aircraft they think were most important. Order the results, and filter
out everything that has been on national TV news the past 6 months.
Anything with a 10% or higher score should do well.
Everyone here is seriously biased (definately includes me), and knows
too much about aviation to give an answer representative of the
general population.
Its the names that the general population knows that will go down in
history, the other (often much more deserving) types will only be
remembered by those interested in the subject matter.
Rob
Ed Majden
November 29th 03, 05:23 PM
"Ed Majden" >
> From a Canadian point of view I would mention The CF-105 AVRO Arrow.
> This will not be forgotten along with the fools that ordered the program
> terminated and the existing aircraft being cut-up and destroyed.
> Also worthy of mention is the CF-100 Canuck, first non swept winged
> aircraft to break the sound barrier in a dive and the only Canadian
designed
> jet fighter to go into production.
>
I neglected to mention the CF-102 Avro Jetliner, the second passenger
liner built. Yes folks, the very successful 707 was third. The CF-102
never went into production because of the Korean and Cold war. The plant
was needed for the production of the CF-100 so the CF102 Jetliner was
cancelled.
Ed
Jim McCartan
November 30th 03, 04:59 AM
Thanks - it was late and I was on a roll......
Still nominate both aircraft.
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