Helicopter Questions

[MCN]

Hello,



I was reading that during the Vietnam War two helicopters were downed by
MiGs, one was a HB-53B which was downed by a MiG-21 on 28 Jan 1970, but I
can't find much info about the other. All I found so far was a "UH-1 during
1971" on the ACIG-site. Has somebody here more info?



Another question I have is about those seven helicopters downed by SAMs in
1972. I know that at least four of them were AH-1 Cobras, which were shoot
down during May and June. Did somebody know more about the other three?



Thanks!



MCN

[Tex Houston]

"MCN" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
> I was reading that during the Vietnam War two helicopters were downed by
> MiGs, one was a HB-53B which was downed by a MiG-21 on 28 Jan 1970, but I
> can't find much info about the other. All I found so far was a "UH-1
during
> 1971" on the ACIG-site. Has somebody here more info?

> MCN


If you want to look up anything in a search engine the helicopter type is
HH-53. HB would indicate the basic type is bomber and would not give you a
match. Of course it could just be a typo.

Tex

[Wakyer Eagle]

"MCN" > wrote in message
...
> Another question I have is about those seven helicopters downed by SAMs in
> 1972. I know that at least four of them were AH-1 Cobras, which were shoot
> down during May and June. Did somebody know more about the other three?

the so-called new technology (our media called it new) that shot down some
helo's in Iraq first came to our attention during the Eastertide Offensive
of 1972. Not a surface to air missile like those around Hanoi but deadly
just the same, the SA7 Strella shoulder fired missile took down a number of
aircraft at least one of which was a DustOff bird.

John mentions the VHPA or VHCN site which I believe will take you to a list
of a/c losses by year and you can see which ones were lost to the SA7 in '72

[MCN]

Oh, yes, the HB-53B was indeed a typo.



Best,


MCN
"Tex Houston" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "MCN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was reading that during the Vietnam War two helicopters were downed by
> > MiGs, one was a HB-53B which was downed by a MiG-21 on 28 Jan 1970, but
I
> > can't find much info about the other. All I found so far was a "UH-1
> during
> > 1971" on the ACIG-site. Has somebody here more info?
>
> > MCN
>
>
> If you want to look up anything in a search engine the helicopter type is
> HH-53. HB would indicate the basic type is bomber and would not give you
a
> match. Of course it could just be a typo.
>
> Tex
>
>

[MCN]

The link to the Cobra-downed-by-SAM story was very interesting, I had just
recently read in the book by Jonathan Bernstein "US Army AH-1 Cobra Units in
Vietnam" about it, but this story was much more in-depth. Thanks! Thanks too
for the link to the PDF-file, unfortunately the email-address in this
document seems to be no longer active.

Best,

MCN

"John?] "
> wrote in message
>...

> I can't answer your questions, but I know someone who probably can.
> First--this might be of interest: ttp://www.vhfcn.org/missle.html
>
> Second--http://www.vhpa.org/heliloss.pdf
> After you review the information on this page, scroll down to
> the bottom and drop Gary a line. If anybody knows the answer,
> he does.
> > Good luck.

[MCN]

Thanks, I'm a bit surprised that both topics didn't got more attention in
the "literature"
Best,
MCN

"Wakyer Eagle" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
>
> "MCN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Another question I have is about those seven helicopters downed by SAMs
in
> > 1972. I know that at least four of them were AH-1 Cobras, which were
shoot
> > down during May and June. Did somebody know more about the other three?
>
> the so-called new technology (our media called it new) that shot down some
> helo's in Iraq first came to our attention during the Eastertide Offensive
> of 1972. Not a surface to air missile like those around Hanoi but deadly
> just the same, the SA7 Strella shoulder fired missile took down a number
of
> aircraft at least one of which was a DustOff bird.
>
> John mentions the VHPA or VHCN site which I believe will take you to a
list
> of a/c losses by year and you can see which ones were lost to the SA7 in
'72
>
>

[FOB]

I think Joe Kline made a painting of it. Joe is Huey guy
and very accurate.

"MCN" > wrote in message =
...
> The link to the Cobra-downed-by-SAM story was very interesting, I had =
just
> recently read in the book by Jonathan Bernstein "US Army AH-1 Cobra =
Units in
> Vietnam" about it, but this story was much more in-depth. Thanks! =
Thanks too
> for the link to the PDF-file, unfortunately the email-address in this
> document seems to be no longer active.
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> Best,
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> MCN
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> "John?] =
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> > wrote in message
> >...
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> > I can't answer your questions, but I know someone who probably can.
> > First--this might be of interest: ttp://www.vhfcn.org/missle.html
> >
> > Second--http://www.vhpa.org/heliloss.pdf
> > After you review the information on this page, scroll down to
> > the bottom and drop Gary a line. If anybody knows the answer,
> > he does.
> > > Good luck.
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