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Bernardz
November 30th 03, 03:37 PM
In the last 10 or so years since the end of the cold war, have any new
weapon systems come on-line?



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user
November 30th 03, 04:31 PM
Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
Hornet.....many others.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 02:37:24 +1100, Bernardz
> wrote:

>In the last 10 or so years since the end of the cold war, have any new
>weapon systems come on-line?

Tarver Engineering
November 30th 03, 06:40 PM
"user" > wrote in message
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> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
> Hornet.....many others.

B-one.

> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 02:37:24 +1100, Bernardz
> > wrote:
>
> >In the last 10 or so years since the end of the cold war, have any new
> >weapon systems come on-line?
>

Tuollaf43
November 30th 03, 08:53 PM
Bernardz > wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34b9ba47db74f1989757@news>...
> In the last 10 or so years since the end of the cold war, have any new
> weapon systems come on-line?

yes.

Kevin Brooks
November 30th 03, 09:40 PM
Bernardz > wrote in message news:<MPG.1a34b9ba47db74f1989757@news>...
> In the last 10 or so years since the end of the cold war, have any new
> weapon systems come on-line?

A bunch. In the aviation side, depending upon what you call "new", you
have the F-15E, which IIRC only became *operational* after the Soviets
were no longer the major threat they had been (the first production
aircraft only reached Luke for the training folks in '88). The French
have had Rafale flying off of their CV for a year or two now. The
Swedes brought the Gripen into service in the late nineties. The
Japanese are getting close with their F-2. The B-2 did not make its
first flight until '89. A plethora of naval systems have entered
service, from the Buke DDG to the latest French CV, and quite a few
smaller combatant designs. Then there are the majority of the UAV
systems, to include the combat capable ones. The Army has brought its
ATACMS missile into service since the end of the Cold War, its new
Stryker combat vehicle, the M109A6 Paladin SPH, and soon the HIMARS
rocket system (already undergoing troop testing IIRC). There are
plenty of others in all categories.

Brooks

Scott Ferrin
November 30th 03, 11:42 PM
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> wrote:

>
>"user" > wrote in message
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>> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
>> Hornet.....many others.
>
>B-one.

It's didn't come online until 1993?

Tarver Engineering
November 30th 03, 11:49 PM
"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"user" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
> >> Hornet.....many others.
> >
> >B-one.
>
> It's didn't come online until 1993?

2002.

Peter Kemp
November 30th 03, 11:59 PM
On or about Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:49:21 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> allegedly uttered:

>
>"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"user" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
>> >> Hornet.....many others.
>> >
>> >B-one.
>>
>> It's didn't come online until 1993?
>
>2002.

Despite having been in service for a hell of a long time before that,
and indeed having it's combat debut in 1998. Buy hey - it's
Tarverworld (tm)
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Tarver Engineering
December 1st 03, 12:26 AM
"Peter Kemp" <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote in message
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> On or about Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:49:21 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > allegedly uttered:
>
> >
> >"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"user" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
> >> >> Hornet.....many others.
> >> >
> >> >B-one.
> >>
> >> It's didn't come online until 1993?
> >
> >2002.
>
> Despite having been in service for a hell of a long time before that,
> and indeed having it's combat debut in 1998. Buy hey - it's
> Tarverworld (tm)

The 1998 spludge was hardly impressive enough for any but the clueless to
see as "online". I don't count any action before Afghanistan as
representative of an "online" weapons system. Up until that time the
Pentagon was reducing the flock and so they agreed with me.

The b-one brings a lot to the table, even if it is late.

Kevin Brooks
December 1st 03, 04:33 AM
"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message >...
> "Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"user" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
> > >> Hornet.....many others.
> > >
> > >B-one.
> >
> > It's didn't come online until 1993?
>
> 2002.

The B-1 did not enter service until 2002?! Another Tarvernaut classic,
right up there with optical nukes and wacky-Civil War naval history...

Brooks

Kevin Brooks
December 1st 03, 09:01 PM
"Tarver Engineering" > wrote in message >...
> "Peter Kemp" <peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@> wrote in message
> ...
> > On or about Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:49:21 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > > allegedly uttered:
> >
> > >
> > >"Scott Ferrin" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:40:40 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"user" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >> Dozens have,,,the first one comes to my mind is the E/F Super
> > >> >> Hornet.....many others.
> > >> >
> > >> >B-one.
> > >>
> > >> It's didn't come online until 1993?
> > >
> > >2002.
> >
> > Despite having been in service for a hell of a long time before that,
> > and indeed having it's combat debut in 1998. Buy hey - it's
> > Tarverworld (tm)
>
> The 1998 spludge was hardly impressive enough for any but the clueless to
> see as "online". I don't count any action before Afghanistan as
> representative of an "online" weapons system. Up until that time the
> Pentagon was reducing the flock and so they agreed with me.
>
> The b-one brings a lot to the table, even if it is late.


Hogwash. IOC for the B-1B was in October 1986, and the *final*
aircraft was delivered in 1988. I am sure you will claim that IOC does
not equal "online" (whatever that particular Tarverism is determined
to mean, based upon your needs at the moment of course); but that will
just be another fine example to add the the evergrowing pile of
lunatic Tarverisms we have been exposed to (i.e., "optical nukes",
"splaps", recoiless cannon armed AC-130's, F-106's carrying AIM-7's,
creative Civil War history, etc...ad nauseum).

Brooks

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