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robert arndt
December 2nd 03, 07:58 AM
Scott Ferrin > wrote in message >...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:46:31 GMT, Chad Irby > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > (robert arndt) wrote:
> >
> >> "Iron Ball" black paint was derived from the Third Reich's
> >> radar-absorbing "Schornsteinfeger" (Chimney Sweep) carbon paint meant
> >> for the Go-229 jet flying wing.
> >
> >Please lose this silly delusion that every aircraft advance in the last
> >60 years came from the Nazis. It's just plain silly.

No, it's not silly, it's a fact, stupid.
>
>
> I seem to recall that "paint" being more like BBs in a sheet of
> rubber.

It was a bituminous paint heavily loaded with carbon. When applied in
thickness carefully calculated in relation to the radar frequency, the
arriving signal would be trapped within the dielectric material and
its return energy damped out.
This was the very first "serious' attempt at stealth technology...
long before RAM was introduced.

Rob

Chad Irby
December 2nd 03, 02:27 PM
(robert arndt) wrote:

> > >> "Iron Ball" black paint was derived from the Third Reich's
> > >> radar-absorbing "Schornsteinfeger" (Chimney Sweep) carbon paint meant
> > >> for the Go-229 jet flying wing.

> It was a bituminous paint heavily loaded with carbon. When applied in
> thickness carefully calculated in relation to the radar frequency, the
> arriving signal would be trapped within the dielectric material and
> its return energy damped out.
> This was the very first "serious' attempt at stealth technology...
> long before RAM was introduced.

....and it has very little to do with how "iron ball" paint actually
works.

The German WWII attempts were basically "trying to paint it radar-black."

They didn't work very well, either, especially since the German attempts
were very frequency-sensitive, and extremely fragile. Messed up the
airflow, too, due to thickness and softness.

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robert arndt
December 2nd 03, 05:09 PM
(robert arndt) wrote in message >...
> Scott Ferrin > wrote in message >...
> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:46:31 GMT, Chad Irby > wrote:
> >
> > >In article >,
> > > (robert arndt) wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Iron Ball" black paint was derived from the Third Reich's
> > >> radar-absorbing "Schornsteinfeger" (Chimney Sweep) carbon paint meant
> > >> for the Go-229 jet flying wing.
> > >
> > >Please lose this silly delusion that every aircraft advance in the last
> > >60 years came from the Nazis. It's just plain silly.
>
> No, it's not silly, it's a fact, stupid.
> >
> >
> > I seem to recall that "paint" being more like BBs in a sheet of
> > rubber.
>
> It was a bituminous paint heavily loaded with carbon. When applied in
> thickness carefully calculated in relation to the radar frequency, the
> arriving signal would be trapped within the dielectric material and
> its return energy damped out.
> This was the very first "serious" attempt at stealth technology...
> long before RAM* was introduced.
>
> Rob

The above properties refer to the Schronsteinfeger paint, not Ironball.

Rob

* should read US RAM (which was developed in the '50s)

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