Questions Regarding Becoming a Marine Fighter Pilot. ? Thanks!

[Lee Shores]

How many Gs can a pilot withstand before blacking out?

If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?

What's the caliber of an M-16?

Do all fighter pilots carry a sidearm?

What's the order of rank for pilots?

Thanks!!!!

Suppose after college someone wants to become a Marine Fighter Pilot:

How long would that take?

Where would the fighter pilot training take place? Anywhere in
Colorado?

If they were shot down, what would a common rifle and sidearm be of
the Taliban?

At what altitude does a parachute automatically open?

What's the equivalent horse power of a fighter jet?

Two any two-pilot or pilot/navigator planes take off from aircraft
carriers? If so, what planes?

Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)

What would they be commissioned as, if they went ROTC in college?

What's the standard Marine sidearm? What's the preferred sidearm?
What do they train with? What's the pilot's standard sidearm?

What plane(s) would they be flying from an aircraft carrier for
bombing missions? What are the most advanced planes and what are the
preferred planes?

How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?



What would the typical fighter jet be armed with for a bombing
mission?

[Ed Rasimus]

On 2 Dec 2003 06:18:49 -0800, (Lee Shores)
wrote:

Although I'm not a Marine, I did spend last night in a Holiday Inn
Express, so I'll offer some answers.

>How many Gs can a pilot withstand before blacking out?

Varies with training and pilot physical condition. Usually aircraft
structural limits are the standard--approximately 9 G on current
systems. Duration of the G load is probably the controlling issue for
going to sleep.
>
>If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?

Unstrap, jettison canopy, trim nose down and release stick.
>
>What's the caliber of an M-16?

..223 or 5.56mm
>
>Do all fighter pilots carry a sidearm?

Not in peacetime operations.
>
>What's the order of rank for pilots?

Same as non-flyers. 2/lt, 1/lt, Capt, Major, Lt. Col, Col. (Navy is
Ensign, Lt/JG, Lt, Lt. Commander, Commander, Captain.
>
>Thanks!!!!
>
>Suppose after college someone wants to become a Marine Fighter Pilot:
>
>How long would that take?

Approximately 2 years.
>
>Where would the fighter pilot training take place? Anywhere in
>Colorado?

No US military pilot training is done in Colorado. Marines and USN
train in Pensacola FL initially.
>
>If they were shot down, what would a common rifle and sidearm be of
>the Taliban?

AK-47.
>
>At what altitude does a parachute automatically open?

A barometric sensor delays opening for automatic deployment until
below 14,500 feet MSL.
>
>What's the equivalent horse power of a fighter jet?

BTSOM. Who cares?
>
>Two any two-pilot or pilot/navigator planes take off from aircraft
>carriers? If so, what planes?

F/A-18, F-14.
>
>Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
>would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)

I assume you mean training. All USMC and USN aviators are carqual.
About two years.
>
>What would they be commissioned as, if they went ROTC in college?

Same as the service academies--2/Lt.
>
>What's the standard Marine sidearm? What's the preferred sidearm?
>What do they train with? What's the pilot's standard sidearm?

Beretta 92--9mm. Preferred? I'd like a 1911 clone in .45. Pilots train
with the M-16 and 9mm. Some units get the Sig P-228, but most use the
Beretta.
>
>What plane(s) would they be flying from an aircraft carrier for
>bombing missions? What are the most advanced planes and what are the
>preferred planes?

F/A-18.

>
>How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?


Just long enough.
>
>
>
>What would the typical fighter jet be armed with for a bombing
>mission?

Depends upon the target. Now, probably JDAMs.

[Charlie Wolf]

On 2 Dec 2003 06:18:49 -0800, (Lee Shores)
wrote:

>How many Gs can a pilot withstand before blacking out?
Determine the G Force necessary to Gray-out. Add .5

>
>If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?
Before or after impact with the ground??

>
>What's the caliber of an M-16?
..223 (couldn't come up with a smart-ass answer for this)

>
>Do all fighter pilots carry a sidearm?
Only the really cool ones..

>
>What's the order of rank for pilots?
All pilots are rank - to some degree or another.

>
>Thanks!!!!
>
>Suppose after college someone wants to become a Marine Fighter Pilot:
>
>How long would that take?
>
>Where would the fighter pilot training take place? Anywhere in
>Colorado?
>
>If they were shot down, what would a common rifle and sidearm be of
>the Taliban?
>
>At what altitude does a parachute automatically open?
>
>What's the equivalent horse power of a fighter jet?
>
>Two any two-pilot or pilot/navigator planes take off from aircraft
>carriers? If so, what planes?
>
>Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
>would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
>
>What would they be commissioned as, if they went ROTC in college?
>
>What's the standard Marine sidearm? What's the preferred sidearm?
>What do they train with? What's the pilot's standard sidearm?
>
>What plane(s) would they be flying from an aircraft carrier for
>bombing missions? What are the most advanced planes and what are the
>preferred planes?
>
>How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?
>
>
>
>What would the typical fighter jet be armed with for a bombing
>mission?

[lostparts]

What's the caliber of an M-16?
Think it might be X caliber.

"Charlie Wolf" > wrote in message
...
> On 2 Dec 2003 06:18:49 -0800, (Lee Shores)
> wrote:
>
> >How many Gs can a pilot withstand before blacking out?
> Determine the G Force necessary to Gray-out. Add .5
>
> >
> >If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?
> Before or after impact with the ground??
>
> >
> >What's the caliber of an M-16?
> .223 (couldn't come up with a smart-ass answer for this)
>
> >
> >Do all fighter pilots carry a sidearm?
> Only the really cool ones..
>
> >
> >What's the order of rank for pilots?
> All pilots are rank - to some degree or another.
>
> >
> >Thanks!!!!
> >
> >Suppose after college someone wants to become a Marine Fighter Pilot:
> >
> >How long would that take?
> >
> >Where would the fighter pilot training take place? Anywhere in
> >Colorado?
> >
> >If they were shot down, what would a common rifle and sidearm be of
> >the Taliban?
> >
> >At what altitude does a parachute automatically open?
> >
> >What's the equivalent horse power of a fighter jet?
> >
> >Two any two-pilot or pilot/navigator planes take off from aircraft
> >carriers? If so, what planes?
> >
> >Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
> >would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
> >
> >What would they be commissioned as, if they went ROTC in college?
> >
> >What's the standard Marine sidearm? What's the preferred sidearm?
> >What do they train with? What's the pilot's standard sidearm?
> >
> >What plane(s) would they be flying from an aircraft carrier for
> >bombing missions? What are the most advanced planes and what are the
> >preferred planes?
> >
> >How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?
> >
> >
> >
> >What would the typical fighter jet be armed with for a bombing
> >mission?
>

[Duke of URL]

"Lee Shores" > wrote in message
om

> If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?

Won't be your worry - they'll remove you with a small scoop and a
vacuum-cleaner.

> What's the order of rank for pilots?

Generally, the CAG forces them to take a shower every week, so they're
not as rank as they used to be.

> How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?

Not NEARLY long enough!

HTH...

[José Herculano]

> >If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?
>
> Unstrap, jettison canopy, trim nose down and release stick.

Would the parachute come out with the pilot in that case?...

_____________
José Herculano

[OXMORON1]

Jose asked in reply to:
>> >If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?
>>
>> Unstrap, jettison canopy, trim nose down and release stick.
>
>Would the parachute come out with the pilot in that case?...
>

Depends on the era and type of seat/chute.Up until the F-100 thru F-105 it
"should" in USAF a/c, Martin Baker type seats with integral parachutes is a
different story.

Oxmoron1
MFE

[Mary Shafer]

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:45:06 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
wrote:


> >Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
> >would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
>
> I assume you mean training. All USMC and USN aviators are carqual.
> About two years.

I don't think the P-3 or C-130 communities carqual, Ed.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

[user]

While its obvious what Junior is asking here, one point should be
brought out to him about Marine Corps Aviators. They are NOT "fighter"
pilots. Sure they fly the Hornet in that mission, and do it well, but
guarantee if you ask any of them, their primary mission is "close
air-ground support".

On 2 Dec 2003 06:18:49 -0800, (Lee Shores)
wrote:

>How many Gs can a pilot withstand before blacking out?
>
>If an ejection seat failed, how would one get out of the plane?
>
>What's the caliber of an M-16?
>
>Do all fighter pilots carry a sidearm?
>
>What's the order of rank for pilots?
>
>Thanks!!!!
>
>Suppose after college someone wants to become a Marine Fighter Pilot:
>
>How long would that take?
>
>Where would the fighter pilot training take place? Anywhere in
>Colorado?
>
>If they were shot down, what would a common rifle and sidearm be of
>the Taliban?
>
>At what altitude does a parachute automatically open?
>
>What's the equivalent horse power of a fighter jet?
>
>Two any two-pilot or pilot/navigator planes take off from aircraft
>carriers? If so, what planes?
>
>Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
>would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
>
>What would they be commissioned as, if they went ROTC in college?
>
>What's the standard Marine sidearm? What's the preferred sidearm?
>What do they train with? What's the pilot's standard sidearm?
>
>What plane(s) would they be flying from an aircraft carrier for
>bombing missions? What are the most advanced planes and what are the
>preferred planes?
>
>How long is the landing deck on an aircraft carrier?
>
>
>
>What would the typical fighter jet be armed with for a bombing
>mission?

[Ed Rasimus]

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:04:05 -0800, Mary Shafer >
wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:45:06 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
>wrote:
>
>
>> >Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
>> >would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
>>
>> I assume you mean training. All USMC and USN aviators are carqual.
>> About two years.
>
>I don't think the P-3 or C-130 communities carqual, Ed.
>
>Mary

Caught me in the act of being elitist, didn't you?

Can I defend myself by saying that I was narrowly focused on the
question regarding "Marine Fighter Pilot"? Nahh, I forgot the heavy
operators, pure and simple.

[Ed Rasimus]

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:27:42 GMT, user > wrote:

>While its obvious what Junior is asking here, one point should be
>brought out to him about Marine Corps Aviators. They are NOT "fighter"
>pilots. Sure they fly the Hornet in that mission, and do it well, but
>guarantee if you ask any of them, their primary mission is "close
>air-ground support".
>

I've said for years, and you may have even read it in this forum, "air
superiority is something a fighter pilot does on his/her way to and
from the target."

[Mary Shafer]

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:16:37 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:04:05 -0800, Mary Shafer >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:45:06 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
> >> >would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
> >>
> >> I assume you mean training. All USMC and USN aviators are carqual.
> >> About two years.
> >
> >I don't think the P-3 or C-130 communities carqual, Ed.
>
> Caught me in the act of being elitist, didn't you?

Not at all. I caught you saying something I'd normally say.

> Can I defend myself by saying that I was narrowly focused on the
> question regarding "Marine Fighter Pilot"? Nahh, I forgot the heavy
> operators, pure and simple.

All fighter pilots in the Navy and Marines carqual. That's what we
both would mean, but not say.

If I hadn't just been talking to a former P-3 pilot, I would have
forgotten them, too. We were talking about tanker aircraft or the
C-130s would have never occurred to me, either.

I'm not even going to mention the adversary F-16s that were,
presumably, flown by both Navy and Marine aviators. That way lies
madness and an interminable thread about hook size, training, and
"what if".

Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

[Harry Andreas]

In article >, wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:16:37 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:04:05 -0800, Mary Shafer >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:45:06 GMT, Ed Rasimus >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> >Suppose they opt to fly missions from Aircraft carriers. How long
> > >> >would this take? (Basic training, flight school, etc.)
> > >>
> > >> I assume you mean training. All USMC and USN aviators are carqual.
> > >> About two years.
> > >
> > >I don't think the P-3 or C-130 communities carqual, Ed.
> >
> > Caught me in the act of being elitist, didn't you?
>
> Not at all. I caught you saying something I'd normally say.
>
> > Can I defend myself by saying that I was narrowly focused on the
> > question regarding "Marine Fighter Pilot"? Nahh, I forgot the heavy
> > operators, pure and simple.
>
> All fighter pilots in the Navy and Marines carqual. That's what we
> both would mean, but not say.
>
> If I hadn't just been talking to a former P-3 pilot, I would have
> forgotten them, too. We were talking about tanker aircraft or the
> C-130s would have never occurred to me, either.
>
> I'm not even going to mention the adversary F-16s that were,
> presumably, flown by both Navy and Marine aviators. That way lies
> madness and an interminable thread about hook size, training, and
> "what if".
>
> Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.

If your area is as prone to termites as the South Bay (LA county) you're
at just the right time to have your new house tented. All the wood should
be in, electrical and water in, but not drywall.
It turns out that the lumber yard is termite central.
(Where would you choose to live if you were a termite?)
The wood is not treated. This from a contractor friend.
Most new houses in SoCal start showing termite signs in 2-3 years from
the wood carried in from the lumberyard.

I understand it used to be a problem in wooden-frame aircraft
back in the day (just to keep on topic).

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[vincent p. norris]

>Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
>house, ...

I'm happy for you, Mary, but do you really need a roof? It never
rains there, does it? ((:-))

It was more than 50 years a go, but when I went through, every cadet
had to carqual in basic, in an SNJ. At that time, no one had yet been
required to choose single or muti-engine.

vince norris

[Mary Shafer]

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0800, (Harry
Andreas) wrote:

> In article >, wrote:

> > Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> > house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> > started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> > The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> > walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.
>
> If your area is as prone to termites as the South Bay (LA county) you're
> at just the right time to have your new house tented. All the wood should
> be in, electrical and water in, but not drywall.
> It turns out that the lumber yard is termite central.
> (Where would you choose to live if you were a termite?)
> The wood is not treated. This from a contractor friend.
> Most new houses in SoCal start showing termite signs in 2-3 years from
> the wood carried in from the lumberyard.

It's apparently not a huge problem here. Maybe termites don't like
the 118 degF summer weather; I know I don't. Anyway, they did
saturate the soil twice with some sort of anti-termite chemical before
they poured the slab and this, it seems, is good enough.

Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
found so far.

> I understand it used to be a problem in wooden-frame aircraft
> back in the day (just to keep on topic).

That doesn't surprise me at all, although I hope it wasn't
subterranean termites, with their little mud tunnels from under the
ground to the airframe. A good pre-flight should catch that one, I'd
think.

Then there are the mud-daubber wasps that build their nests in such
inopportune site as pitot tubes and static ports. Apparently, this
happens without being caught on the preflight now and then, usually
with unpleasant results.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

[Pete]

"Mary Shafer" > wrote

>
> Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
> non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
> of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
> recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
> found so far.

Termites need not just wood, but moisture as well. Florida, Lousyana, etc
are termite havens.

Pete

[Bob McKellar]

Mary Shafer wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0800, (Harry
> Andreas) wrote:
>
> > In article >, wrote:
>
> > > Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> > > house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> > > started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> > > The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> > > walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.
> >
> > If your area is as prone to termites as the South Bay (LA county) you're
> > at just the right time to have your new house tented. All the wood should
> > be in, electrical and water in, but not drywall.
> > It turns out that the lumber yard is termite central.
> > (Where would you choose to live if you were a termite?)
> > The wood is not treated. This from a contractor friend.
> > Most new houses in SoCal start showing termite signs in 2-3 years from
> > the wood carried in from the lumberyard.
>
> It's apparently not a huge problem here. Maybe termites don't like
> the 118 degF summer weather; I know I don't. Anyway, they did
> saturate the soil twice with some sort of anti-termite chemical before
> they poured the slab and this, it seems, is good enough.
>
> Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
> non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
> of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
> recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
> found so far.
>
> > I understand it used to be a problem in wooden-frame aircraft
> > back in the day (just to keep on topic).
>
> That doesn't surprise me at all, although I hope it wasn't
> subterranean termites, with their little mud tunnels from under the
> ground to the airframe. A good pre-flight should catch that one, I'd
> think.
>
> Then there are the mud-daubber wasps that build their nests in such
> inopportune site as pitot tubes and static ports. Apparently, this
> happens without being caught on the preflight now and then, usually
> with unpleasant results.
>
> Mary
>
> --
> Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
>

I understand a lot of the homebuilt composite aircraft have had problems with
polyestermites.....

Bob McKellar, ducking and running for cover

[user]

Short attention span have we?? ;)

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:36:36 -0800, Mary Shafer >
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0800, (Harry
>Andreas) wrote:
>
>> In article >, wrote:
>
>> > Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
>> > house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
>> > started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
>> > The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
>> > walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.
>>
>> If your area is as prone to termites as the South Bay (LA county) you're
>> at just the right time to have your new house tented. All the wood should
>> be in, electrical and water in, but not drywall.
>> It turns out that the lumber yard is termite central.
>> (Where would you choose to live if you were a termite?)
>> The wood is not treated. This from a contractor friend.
>> Most new houses in SoCal start showing termite signs in 2-3 years from
>> the wood carried in from the lumberyard.
>
>It's apparently not a huge problem here. Maybe termites don't like
>the 118 degF summer weather; I know I don't. Anyway, they did
>saturate the soil twice with some sort of anti-termite chemical before
>they poured the slab and this, it seems, is good enough.
>
>Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
>non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
>of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
>recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
>found so far.
>
>> I understand it used to be a problem in wooden-frame aircraft
>> back in the day (just to keep on topic).
>
>That doesn't surprise me at all, although I hope it wasn't
>subterranean termites, with their little mud tunnels from under the
>ground to the airframe. A good pre-flight should catch that one, I'd
>think.
>
>Then there are the mud-daubber wasps that build their nests in such
>inopportune site as pitot tubes and static ports. Apparently, this
>happens without being caught on the preflight now and then, usually
>with unpleasant results.
>
>Mary

[Michael Williamson]

Pete wrote:
> "Mary Shafer" > wrote
>
>
>>Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
>>non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
>>of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
>>recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
>>found so far.
>
>
> Termites need not just wood, but moisture as well. Florida, Lousyana, etc
> are termite havens.
>
> Pete


Interestingly though, there are termites all over the place here in
Tucson, which isn't exactly a rain forest...

Mike

[Harry Andreas]

In article >, Bob McKellar
> wrote:

> Mary Shafer wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0800, (Harry
> > Andreas) wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
wrote:
> >
> > > > Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> > > > house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> > > > started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> > > > The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> > > > walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.
> > >
> > > If your area is as prone to termites as the South Bay (LA county) you're
> > > at just the right time to have your new house tented. All the wood should
> > > be in, electrical and water in, but not drywall.
> > > It turns out that the lumber yard is termite central.
> > > (Where would you choose to live if you were a termite?)
> > > The wood is not treated. This from a contractor friend.
> > > Most new houses in SoCal start showing termite signs in 2-3 years from
> > > the wood carried in from the lumberyard.
> >
> > It's apparently not a huge problem here. Maybe termites don't like
> > the 118 degF summer weather; I know I don't. Anyway, they did
> > saturate the soil twice with some sort of anti-termite chemical before
> > they poured the slab and this, it seems, is good enough.
> >
> > Termites are exceedingly rare in the High Desert, too. Not
> > non-existant, but certainly far from common. My neighborhood is full
> > of houses built about 30 years ago and a fair number have been sold
> > recently, meaning termite inspections for escrow. No one has had any
> > found so far.
> >
> > > I understand it used to be a problem in wooden-frame aircraft
> > > back in the day (just to keep on topic).
> >
> > That doesn't surprise me at all, although I hope it wasn't
> > subterranean termites, with their little mud tunnels from under the
> > ground to the airframe. A good pre-flight should catch that one, I'd
> > think.
> >
> > Then there are the mud-daubber wasps that build their nests in such
> > inopportune site as pitot tubes and static ports. Apparently, this
> > happens without being caught on the preflight now and then, usually
> > with unpleasant results.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > --
> > Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
> >
>
> I understand a lot of the homebuilt composite aircraft have had problems with
> polyestermites.....

LOL! ouch, that's so bad it's funny.

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Duke of URL]

"Harry Andreas" > wrote in message

> In article >, Bob McKellar
> > wrote:

>> I understand a lot of the homebuilt composite aircraft have had
>> problems with polyestermites.....
>
> LOL! ouch, that's so bad it's funny.

Grroooaannn... Oh, man, I managed to miss that the first time past. I
really WISH you hadn't reposted it.

[David Lesher]

In article >, wrote:

> Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.


Hope you wired the house with CAT5 here/there/everywhere, as
well as RG-6 for the boob tube..


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[Mary Shafer]

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:23:26 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
> wrote:

> In article >, wrote:
>
> > Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> > house, having put up the load-bearing walls in two days, and have
> > started on the non-load-bearing walls and the water lines and wiring.
> > The sheer-wall sheathing is being done today. We have the pre-drywall
> > walk-through on Tuesday, a week from now.
>
> Hope you wired the house with CAT5 here/there/everywhere, as
> well as RG-6 for the boob tube..

Fifteen dataports (two-line phone, Cat5e, two sets of coax), including
one on the patio and one on the front porch (two dataports came
standard with the house). Plus six or seven two-line phone outlets
and one set of coax, standard. And another wiring box to hold all of
this.

I also put in electrical receptacles right by the outside dataports.
It's nice enough here to sit outside and read Usenet on my laptop
during the day. Retirement is fun.

They put in the additional can lights and the quadraplex outlets
yesterday. They've put in the fireplace, the HVAC units and ducting,
the alarm system, and the J-boxes, wrapped the house in tar paper, and
started putting the foam and chickenwire on the outside. I think
we're about a week from drywall now. They put on the brown coat a
couple of days after that. They've got the tiles on the roof already,
not in place, but up there to put the weight on for the frame and
stucco.

The insulation is a combination of blown cellulose and 1-in. foam, but
I don't see how they're going to get the blown stuff in there, unless
they go through the foam just before they stucco. All the studs have
firebreaks, of course, and the twelve-foot studs have two, so it's not
going to be quick. They do use bats in the garage, though. Maybe
they use a smaller hole to blow the cellulose in than I think they do.

Mary

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[Mary Shafer]

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:29:06 -0500, vincent p. norris >
wrote:

> >Rejoice with me. They've got the rafters and roof sheathing on our
> >house, ...
>
> I'm happy for you, Mary, but do you really need a roof? It never
> rains there, does it? ((:-))

We actually got 1.2 in. in 24 hours a couple of weeks ago and it
rained a bit this morning. That first storm was a real surprise to
the weather guessers.

> It was more than 50 years a go, but when I went through, every cadet
> had to carqual in basic, in an SNJ. At that time, no one had yet been
> required to choose single or muti-engine.

I think this requirement comes and goes, based on something I heard.
I had thought everyone had to, as you say, but there was some change
for the helo cadets and, later, for the C-130 guys, according to a
helo guy I know. Someone told me the C-130 guys were trained by the
USAF or something, unless that was the Coast Guard, but that might
have been some, not all, or it might be wrong altogether. He wasn't
certain.

Mary

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